look what they did to a good thread

man, i try to initiate good debate but they can't stop calling us rascists

He is the Boss I gotta respect that

Lets try to keep the debates civil. I need to work on it also Mojo

Just ignore them... let the people that read your debate come to thewir own conclusions and let it be. I personally thought that calling you racist for what was said was retarded, but so was the going back and forth "yes you are", "no I'm not" etc... If you think certain ppl here are morons, just ignore them and respond to the useful comments.

Faken

*edit - and btw, starting up a new thread to complain about a locked thread is a good way to get in shit.

Post edited by Fakenrite at 6/2/2003 3:04:30 PM

Yeah. There is defiantly someone (Snake) that needs to watch what he says - and I hope if he continues his idiotic/bashing posts that Polaris will follow through on what he said and ban him.

-Naut


edit: Knight isn't THAT bad..
Post edited by Naut at 6/2/2003 6:52:45 PM

it's not the boss problem. he locked it because it get outta hand and they can't stop calling us KKK

Naut seems to have a personal issue with me and knightmare. Don't even respond to him Mojo. I dont

awww and I always ed naut


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I think maybe you woulda gotten the idea when the other thread was locked. Its always a good idea to continue locked threads by just starting them up again in another thread

Edit: "look what they did to a good thread" - it obviously wasnt all THAT great since it got locked...
Post edited by kevin184 at 6/2/2003 7:00:45 PM

See my edit ^^^

Originally posted by: mojo7

man, i try to initiate good debate but they can't stop calling us rascists

Starting a debate purposefully targeting a large demographic ( religion, nationality, sexuality et cetera ) is not a 'good debate'. It's flamebait, and if you can't see that, you honestly shouldn't be posting. In my opinion, I would call that a 'personal attack', which you seem to use as your fall-behind on for anything that conflicts your ideals, after you go out and blatantly attack others.

Just because someone may not meet your ideals doesn't mean that their point is invalid. That is the whole reason this 'war' in the Middle East is being fought, both between the various faiths, as well as nations - because someone's ideals conflict with someone else's. And even in that case, it's not even the majority of the demographic. It is a minority, but that minority has somehow gotten their characteristics applied to the majority, and therefore, them (as a whole) are blamed.

"Let's kill the Arabs/French/etc." is not the answer. There is not a right answer. Whatever happens, someone is going to be pissed.

And, it is Polaris/Triston/the TWL staff's problem. If something gets out of hand, they are going to be the ones getting blamed, when it in reality isn't their fault. They are making an attempt to 'keep the peace' and keep things from escalating to a point where someone gets extremely pissed about something.

... and don't go off calling me left/right/up/down or whatever other generalization you want to create to place me in. I really don't care too much about politics, considering I am not even of voting age yet, but it pisses me off to see someone with comments such as yours that are purposely aimed at targeting out a certain group of people that you potentially don't even know that much about.

Hopefully this came out relatively coherent.

Also, if you want people to take you seriously, you might try typing in a readable manner.

Post edited by Armora at 6/2/2003 8:39:50 PM

LOL Naut. Keep me rolling. You should be a comedian. I dont even think you know what you even say. You have personally insulted 3 posters in the last week. Polaris was specifically talking to you in our last post because you opened your ignorant mouth. You threatened me physically in which you are a joke, and now you try to insult me again. I find your kind amusing at best. You try to make yourself look better by attacking others. You attacked Kevin184's dad, you attacked me, you attacked Mojo. I saw you mouth off to alpha, and cobalt. I mean do you have any argument you can make without personally bringing someone up. I highly doubt it. I find it sad you are a republican like me. You try to call things racist that arent. You try to cause strife and controversy over things that are so non racist that its funny.

I am sorry to Dom and Polaris I had to single him out. Naut isnt worth a breath of air. But he always trying to get people in trouble and then insulting others is truly pathetic.
Post edited by ~~Snake~~ at 6/2/2003 9:49:59 PM

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~

LOL Naut. ... But he always trying to get people in trouble and then insulting others is truly pathetic.

From what I've read, you haven't been quite the most virtuous person in the things that have been brought up... you've personally brought up people in some of your posts.
Ed: Spelling
Post edited by stasis :D at 6/2/2003 11:50:28 PM

Not once since Dominus or Polaris has asked me have I PERSONALLY insulted someone unless they attack me! Big difference.


Post edited by ~~Snake~~ at 6/2/2003 10:17:18 PM

Snake, after reading the first line of your post I gave up on you lol.

edit: OK, I read the rest of it

That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read. I think most of the people on this forum have already judged you on your lack of common sense in your post, you idiotic ideology, and the fact that you gay people.

(note: Snake really does hate gay people. He said if one of "them" got near his kids, he would put a shotgun in their mouth and kill them. He said that they have no place near kids or people, and implied that they are a plague to the earth - this guy is MESSED UP).


And because of that, I don't think any further explanation of your charactor is neccesary.


It would be great if Dommy or Polaris could ban people before things get this far.. I deleted a post in which the above actions took place for the sake of Snake not getting banned, but next time I will not be so nice and simply PM you guys the link to the thread.

-Naut
Post edited by Naut at 6/2/2003 11:22:58 PM

mojo, del this thread?

goddam, i went to work and it turn out to this mess

for the record, no one ever say kill arabs/french. we say fuck the french, coz they don't care about our national security. they worry more about the domination of US more than ppl gettting killed.

as for the religion of islam. we just discuss the problemm with it's core doctrine and all the fundamentalist terrorists.

the only weapon u guys have is to name us racsists. come up with something new would u?

mojo, I never commented on anything you just talked about. I agree with you, the french can go to hell for all I care.

-naut

not to u neither, naut

mojo, btw, snake said I was personally attacking you earlier lol.. does that ring a bell??

i have bad memories, and i u call me a rascist, then yes

Originally posted by: Naut

Snake, after reading the first line of your post I gave up on you lol.

edit: OK, I read the rest of it

That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read. I think most of the people on this forum have already judged you on your lack of common sense in your post, you idiotic ideology, and the fact that you gay people.

(note: Snake really does hate gay people. He said if one of "them" got near his kids, he would put a shotgun in their mouth and kill them. He said that they have no place near kids or people, and implied that they are a plague to the earth - this guy is MESSED UP).


And because of that, I don't think any further explanation of your charactor is neccesary.


It would be great if Dommy or Polaris could ban people before things get this far.. I deleted a post in which the above actions took place for the sake of Snake not getting banned, but next time I will not be so nice and simply PM you guys the link to the thread.

-Naut

Naut you are pathetic. Trying to bring a former argument into play to rally support for your views is sad. If snake hates gays then he hates gays, thats his personal business and whatever he would do is his buisness. Trying to justify his sanity or common sense based on his views of homosexuality is absurd.

"Idiotic Idealogy" LOL! lets break this one down. You dont see things as he does therefore his ideas are idiotic? I believe this is one of those eye of the beholder situations. Here is a basic outline for next time.

1.Think
2.Post

Originally posted by: mojo7


as for the religion of islam. we just discuss the problemm with it's core doctrine and all the fundamentalist terrorists.

wow..we are so lucky..we have not one but TWO islam "experts" in here. i bet they have many many muslim friends and perhaps even have lived in a mulsim country for quite a while to gain such in depth knowledge of islam.


or they got it from FOX news..



ZU

Tappy, the personal attacks that have been going on between Snake and I have nothing to do the debate at hand - All I was doing was telling you why I personally dislike Snake. How the hell was I trying to use THAT to support my view point.. and on what subject lol?

Your post made no sense, good day.

-Naut

edit: And dude, there is a difference between having a different view point and wanting to kill gay people. I did not call him names because we disagreed on a certain issue or topic. If he thinks homosexuality is an abomination to the bible, thats fine. If he thinks they have no place near children, thats pushing it - but it's his own opinion, which is fine. But when he says that he would litterally put a shotgun in a gay persons mouth, well, he is an idiot.


Post edited by Naut at 6/3/2003 4:05:43 AM

If I had seen Snake say that he would have been banned for a couple of days.

That being said, Naut, you need to back off him for a while. Your constant attacks on him are unwarranted and will result in your removal. I have asked Snake to back off as well (when he emailed me concerned about my opinions of his posts).

The key to having these sort of conversations work is your collective ability to keep things on topic. I am more than happy to allow you to discuss controvertial topics - provided you dont act like 7th graders in the process.

]CkB[Polaris
Teamwarfare Director of Operations

Originally posted by: Polaris

The key to having these sort of conversations work is your collective ability to keep things on topic. I am more than happy to allow you to discuss controvertial topics - provided you dont act like 7th graders in the process.

IT'S MY TRICYCLE DAMNIT!


 

Originally posted by: Naut

Tappy, the personal attacks that have been going on between Snake and I have nothing to do the debate at hand - All I was doing was telling you why I personally dislike Snake. How the hell was I trying to use THAT to support my view point.. and on what subject lol?

Your post made no sense, good day.

-Naut

edit: And dude, there is a difference between having a different view point and wanting to kill gay people. I did not call him names because we disagreed on a certain issue or topic. If he thinks homosexuality is an abomination to the bible, thats fine. If he thinks they have no place near children, thats pushing it - but it's his own opinion, which is fine. But when he says that he would litterally put a shotgun in a gay persons mouth, well, he is an idiot.

For the record I stated that if a gay man tried to promote his *gay* tendencies on my children that we would have a problem, BIG problem. I think any father or parent would have said the same.

Originally posted by: Polaris

If I had seen Snake say that he would have been banned for a couple of days.

That being said, Naut, you need to back off him for a while. Your constant attacks on him are unwarranted and will result in your removal. I have asked Snake to back off as well (when he emailed me concerned about my opinions of his posts).

The key to having these sort of conversations work is your collective ability to keep things on topic. I am more than happy to allow you to discuss controvertial topics - provided you dont act like 7th graders in the process.

Good enough Thanks Polaris

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~

Originally posted by: Naut

Tappy, the personal attacks that have been going on between Snake and I have nothing to do the debate at hand - All I was doing was telling you why I personally dislike Snake. How the hell was I trying to use THAT to support my view point.. and on what subject lol?

Your post made no sense, good day.

-Naut

edit: And dude, there is a difference between having a different view point and wanting to kill gay people. I did not call him names because we disagreed on a certain issue or topic. If he thinks homosexuality is an abomination to the bible, thats fine. If he thinks they have no place near children, thats pushing it - but it's his own opinion, which is fine. But when he says that he would litterally put a shotgun in a gay persons mouth, well, he is an idiot.

For the record I stated that if a gay man tried to promote his *gay* tendencies on my children that we would have a problem, BIG problem. I think any father or parent would have said the same.

Uhh.. lol.. right.

Thanks Naut! I know I am and so does every other poster that read that thread! Goodluck to you

so NAUT if some openly gay guy with a tattoe saying "i like little boys" walked up to your kid and started to pet him and purr at the same time. You would do nothing about it?

I don't understand what all the hate is about here...

If I really thought for one second you guys didn't like each other... this forum would be dead. Cuz the only bozo's who constantly come in here day after day are.... all of us.

So knock it off with the hate.

I dont hate Dom I just posted that if a gay person tried to promote his lifestyle and the key word is PROMOTE on my children, that I would take drastic measures. Naut seemed to think that meant I was out to do harm to gay people. I have no problem with them and their lifestyle as long as they DONT PROMOTE it on my children or other kids. Thats all.

I dont hate him.

I strongly suggest dropping the point, Snake.

]CkB[Polaris
Teamwarfare Director of Operations

No problem Polaris. I was just explaining to Dominus what happened. Thats all I wasnt in any way, shape or form trying to stir up trouble. I just wanted him to understand what I said.

I wasnt trying to go against your wishes!
Post edited by ~~Snake~~ at 6/3/2003 11:06:35 AM

Not worried about the gays giving my kid gay...I'm more concerned with the problem of cocaine crazed negroes!!

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/negro_cocaine_fiends.htm

Originally posted by: Wonka

so NAUT if some openly gay guy with a tattoe saying "i like little boys" walked up to your kid and started to pet him and purr at the same time. You would do nothing about it?

That's not the issue lol. Snake said that gay people have no right to be around kids. He also said that he would put a shotgun in their mouth if they got around his. After taking heavy fire from saying that, he later changed it to he would put a shotgun in their mouth if they were INFLUENCING his kids. Big difference.

-Naut

ok, let's just drop it, this is getting old.

Polaris? I will not respond to Naut any further on this per your wishes! He just seems to be bent on getting me banned by lying If you have the ability to pull up a deleted thread and review it, please do. I didnt edit anything in that post and I am sure its very apparent of what I said. Thanks for your understanding.