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Oh... by the way.... Nelson Mandela died.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/06/world/africa/nelson-mandela-main/


Johannesburg, South Africa (CNN) -- South Africans mourned Friday the death of the man who led the fight to end the system of apartheid here and then went on to lead the country itself.

"We will always love Madiba for teaching us that it is possible to overcome hatred and anger in order to build a new nation and a new society," President Jacob Zuma told reporters Friday, using the affectionate clan name shared by his countrymen for Nelson Mandela, who died Thursday at age 95.

He will be buried in a state funeral on Sunday, December 15, in his ancestral hometown of Qunu in the Eastern Cape province in a state funeral, Zuma said.

Sunday will be a "national day of prayer and reflection," in which people throughout the nation will gather in places of worship to conduct "prayer services and meditation reflecting on the life" of Mandela, Zuma said.

The official memorial service will be held Tuesday in First National Bank Stadium in Johannesburg.



It's not as traumatic for young Americans as Paul Walker's death... and I'm sure those Americans under the age of 30 may think that Mandela is a brand of South African ketchup... but I actually did admire the guy... We wouldn't have had the plot to Lethal Weapon 2 without Mandela.


Apartheid!
Post edited by Bibimbap at 12/6/2013 10:54:57 AM
Overall was a good man. I think his cause was noble though many never grasped his message.
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It's interesting when these inspirational leaders come and nothing really changes when they go. Africa is still a shit hole and South Africa isn't doing any better because of his influence there.

Nevertheless, it is good to recognize people when they do try to help even if that help isn't wanted.
Originally posted by: Bibimbap


It's not as traumatic for young Americans as Paul Walker's death... and I'm sure those Americans under the age of 30 may think that Mandela is a brand of South African ketchup... but I actually did admire the guy... We wouldn't have had the plot to Lethal Weapon 2 without Mandela.


Couldn't help bug laugh when I saw pictures of Morgan Freeman and the headline "Nelson Mandela Dies"
Loved him in Bruce Almighty and Shawshank Redemption.

He will be missed.

GOOD!


thats one less communistic terrorist negroid the people of this planet will have to deal with. the more they die, the merrier humans will be.

fucking hate communists.



oh rite... he was black.

darkies cant be communist or terrorists because they are getting revenge against the satanic whitie for all the evil the world currently sees by raping and piliging whitie for crimes made hundreds of years ago; therefor, he is a hero to the cultural marxist libtards of today.

not surprised to see people saying they liked him. . .
flag at half mast today.

Obama says he was a great guy. Good enough for me.
According to all the conservatives on my Facebook he was a really bad guy??? I always learned good things about him but that was when I was very young, feel like I have to actually research it now. I probably won't though.
Originally posted by: Mockery
flag at half mast today.

Obama says he was a great guy. Good enough for me.


Did he lower the flag when our Ambassador to Libya was murdered?
Originally posted by: leroybrown
According to all the conservatives on my Facebook he was a really bad guy??? I always learned good things about him but that was when I was very young, feel like I have to actually research it now. I probably won't though.
do you think?

or, are you told what to think?

its up to you dude.
Originally posted by: Cocytus
Originally posted by: Mockery
flag at half mast today.

Obama says he was a great guy. Good enough for me.


Did he lower the flag when our Ambassador to Libya was murdered?


yes

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-orders-flags-half-staff-benghazi-attack-172331236--election.html
Originally posted by: samUwell
Originally posted by: leroybrown
According to all the conservatives on my Facebook he was a really bad guy??? I always learned good things about him but that was when I was very young, feel like I have to actually research it now. I probably won't though.
do you think?

or, are you told what to think?

its up to you dude.


I don't know, what do you think?
Originally posted by: leroybrown
According to all the conservatives on my Facebook he was a really bad guy??? I always learned good things about him but that was when I was very young, feel like I have to actually research it now. I probably won't though.
Before prison he was the leader of the militant arm of a couple of groups (one flaming marxists) fighting the government. They used real terrorism including bombing public places like restaurants killing civilians including children. Amnesty International refused to take on his case initially because of his violent past.

The Western media started pushing this Ghandi-like image of the guy to make him a martyr against Aparteid. My personal opinion if he wasn't Marxist connected, the western media wouldn't have white washed his past and found a different living martyr.

Anyway either genuinely or to live up to the hype he seemed to become a different person in and after prison even after acquiring power. Seems to me someone being able to transform like that and leave the past behind seems like a more important story than the one needing the whitewash
Post edited by Stryk at 12/7/2013 11:33:13 AM
Originally posted by: mx+b
Originally posted by: Cocytus
Originally posted by: Mockery
flag at half mast today.

Obama says he was a great guy. Good enough for me.


Did he lower the flag when our Ambassador to Libya was murdered?


yes

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-orders-flags-half-staff-benghazi-attack-172331236--election.html


I expected Cobalt to take that one.

Originally posted by: Stryk
Originally posted by: leroybrown
According to all the conservatives on my Facebook he was a really bad guy??? I always learned good things about him but that was when I was very young, feel like I have to actually research it now. I probably won't though.
Before prison he was the leader of the militant arm of a couple of groups (one flaming marxists) fighting the government. They used real terrorism including bombing public places like restaurants killing civilians including children. Amnesty International refused to take on his case initially because of his violent past.

The Western media started pushing this Ghandi-like image of the guy to make him a martyr against Aparteid. My personal opinion if he wasn't Marxist connected, the western media wouldn't have white washed his past and found a different living martyr.

Anyway either genuinely or to live up to the hype he seemed to become a different person in and after prison even after acquiring power. Seems to me someone being able to transform like that and leave the past behind seems like a more important story than the one needing the whitewash
"WHITE-wash" is racist.
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Originally posted by: Cocytus

I expected Cobalt to take that one.


Sorry, shouldn't have corrected you
snake when you throwing the party? whose bringing the chips and salsa? is that arranged yet?
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The right is more virtuous than the left. They have twice as many virtues because they have double the standards.

Originally posted by: mx+b
Originally posted by: Cocytus

I expected Cobalt to take that one.


Sorry, shouldn't have corrected you


You didn't correct me.

I'm just wondering why it's important to lower the flag for anybody that isn't a citizen. It's not a world flag.
Of course it is. America's number 1 export is your sense of democracy so why not?
Originally posted by: mx+b
Of course it is. America's number 1 export is your sense of democracy so why not?


We both have the decline of America at heart. Why are you fighting with me?
Originally posted by: Cocytus
Originally posted by: mx+b
Of course it is. America's number 1 export is your sense of democracy so why not?


We both have the decline of America at heart. Why are you fighting with me?
because you are a white devil.

duh!
Originally posted by: mx+b
Of course it is. America's number 1 export is your sense of democracy so why not?


Our number 1 export is debt and tricking countries into believing our currency, that we print at will, is still worth anything.
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: mx+b
Of course it is. America's number 1 export is your sense of democracy so why not?


Our number 1 export is debt and tricking countries into believing our currency, that we print at will, is still worth anything.


To prop up the democracy that's hanging on by a thread.
Originally posted by: mx+b
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: mx+b
Of course it is. America's number 1 export is your sense of democracy so why not?


Our number 1 export is debt and tricking countries into believing our currency, that we print at will, is still worth anything.


To prop up the democracy that's hanging on by a thread.


democracy doomed for death when only dummies vote.

it going to complete shit in western world, so little to no hope in middle east anymore.

reading about H.L. Mencken. Very interesting guy.

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.


Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.


Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.


Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.


The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.

Post edited by Mockery at 12/9/2013 11:25:03 PM
i find it odd that the leftardians are silent on this death of a darkie.

thankfully ONE guy decided not to lower OUR AMERICAN flag to half staff to celebrate a terrorist, communist who was married to a woman to helped to invent the collar for death.



for this American, i rejoiced in this death. now, if we can get someone to execute his wife we as a people might be better off.

come on leftards... so... much... bait!


bring the fish.
Originally posted by: samUwell
i find it odd that the leftardians are silent on this death of a darkie.

thankfully ONE guy decided not to lower OUR AMERICAN flag to half staff to celebrate a terrorist, communist who was married to a woman to helped to invent the collar for death.



for this American, i rejoiced in this death. now, if we can get someone to execute his wife we as a people might be better off.

come on leftards... so... much... bait!


bring the fish.
They're just glad we're not talking about Obamacare anymore. Kind of a spot of luck this distraction. If you believe in luck.
yeh, who knew mandela was so shiny?
Originally posted by: Stryk
Originally posted by: samUwell
i find it odd that the leftardians are silent on this death of a darkie.

thankfully ONE guy decided not to lower OUR AMERICAN flag to half staff to celebrate a terrorist, communist who was married to a woman to helped to invent the collar for death.



for this American, i rejoiced in this death. now, if we can get someone to execute his wife we as a people might be better off.

come on leftards... so... much... bait!


bring the fish.
They're just glad we're not talking about Obamacare anymore. Kind of a spot of luck this distraction. If you believe in luck.


Most Americans know their wallets will be lighter soon and they also don't know where South Africa is on a map. I highly doubt this will take anything off of the current stream of dung presented to us by this Administration.
Post edited by Cocytus at 12/10/2013 12:07:26 PM
I am offended that the flag flew half mast for a prior criminal and terrorists in think he turned his life around but its a dishonor to the soldiers to fly it half mast

Plus South Africa is a total shithole now.
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"If guns kill people then spoons make us fat!"
Originally posted by: Cocytus
Originally posted by: Stryk
Originally posted by: samUwell
i find it odd that the leftardians are silent on this death of a darkie.

thankfully ONE guy decided not to lower OUR AMERICAN flag to half staff to celebrate a terrorist, communist who was married to a woman to helped to invent the collar for death.



for this American, i rejoiced in this death. now, if we can get someone to execute his wife we as a people might be better off.

come on leftards... so... much... bait!


bring the fish.
They're just glad we're not talking about Obamacare anymore. Kind of a spot of luck this distraction. If you believe in luck.


Most Americans know their wallets will be lighter soon and they also don't know where South Africa is on a map. I highly doubt this will take anything off of the current stream of dung presented to us by this Administration.


wallets lighter and butt hole looser.......

just the way the American public likes it.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
So much racism here. You are not allowed to have an opinion on black folk. Don't you idiots read the rules?
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Is this interpreter doing Ebonics sign language? Pixel can you confirm

http://news.yahoo.com/outrage-over-sign-language-interpreter-madiba-memorial-082056835.html


Obama was there. I bet he knew what it was
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Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
I am offended that the flag flew half mast for a prior criminal and terrorists in think he turned his life around but its a dishonor to the soldiers to fly it half mast

Plus South Africa is a total shithole now.


http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/12/07/pickens-county-sheriff-wont-honor-mandela/

jus sayin
Pfft nobody cares about the deaf since they can't vote anyways
FYI - Google: nelson mandela died june 2013

a must read: Did Obama know date of Mandela’s death was June 26, 2013?

long read but interesting none-the-less
Nelson Mandela Death: Travesty Finally Ends


Anyone who has read the Las Vegas Guardian Express from June onwards will know. On June 26, 2013 an article was published by the Guardian Express stating that the icon had been declared dead and the family told to shut down the life support system. The article had been written after two sources contacted the paper’s South African correspondent to relate that the legend had actually died on June 11, or more accurately, was declared brain dead.

In response to the published article that told the real circumstances of the humanitarian’s death, the publication came under attack. Repeated attempts from South Africa to destroy the news website continued for an extended time period. Others tried to discredit the paper.

With the publication’s sources continuing to maintain that the truth of Mandela’s condition was not as reported by the South African government or press, a senior editor went to the country to meet with sources and listen to the taped conversation that this paper made available to the public. On the tape, two government officials spoke of the truth behind the obscenity being played out on the world’s stage. The world’s press were told that Nelson Mandela had not been declared brain dead and the, then, 94 year-old man was said to be recovering. He death has now been officially declared putting an end to the months-long travesty.

The Las Vegas Guardian Express also provided solid proof of why Madiba was not allowed to die with dignity. The Mandela family were trying to get hold of the 127 million rand fortune that the iconic man had set aside in a trust for future generations of the Mandela dynasty. Avarice, however, made the immediate family rush to “break” the trust and control the money. Mandela had to be “alive” or the family could not sue him for the money.

Two writers for the paper worked on a trilogy of South Africa that pointed out why the great man was not allowed to die with dignity. Graham Noble and Rebecca Savastio, with help from Senior Editor Michael Smith who travelled to the country, wrote a detailed account of why Madiba was not allowed to die. It came down to money and a legal loophole in South Africa.

South African law allows an individual to be kept on life support equipment almost indefinitely. After a landmark case in 1992, in which the wife of Frederick Cyril Clarke petitioned the courts to allow her brain dead husband’s life support to be turned off after an incredible five years and won, the law changed. A living will was now allowed to state the brain dead individual’s wishes. Mandela, according to family members, did not have one.

The Las Vegas Guardian Express uncovered information that showed the great man’s family could well have taken him off the life support systems and buried the man, in secret, on June 26 this year; the same time the paper’s first article was published. With an elaborate smokescreen in place, the world’s press did not see the great Nelson Mandela after that point.

When the family removed Mandela later in the year so that he could “rest” at home. No member of the press was allowed to see Madiba before or after the transfer. It could be argued that on top of the family’s scramble to accumulate the wealth set aside by Mandela for future generations was not the only reason to hide the man’s passing.

Perhaps paranoia from the ANC, President Zuma, and other factions about predicted apocalyptic events set to happen when the iconic humanitarian died made it much easier for the family to maintain their lie.

It was learned by the senior editor who traveled to Johannesburg, Pretoria, Soweto and other surrounding areas that, as reported by the paper’s correspondent, there was an underlying feeling of unease that pervaded the country. Sources scheduled to speak with the editor, backed out, due to death threats and other intimidation efforts from parties who did not want the truth to come out.

The South African correspondent, Laura ONeale, was plagued by the worst sort of journalistic practices by the country’s media once they learned of her involvement. She participated because she “loves her country” and wanted the world to know the truth.

Another thing learned from the visit, was that it was common knowledge among certain sources that only one news agency would be allowed to “break” the news of Mandela’s death. Even the SABC would not be allowed to publish the news of Madiba’s passing. The privilege, according to sources, was to be given to CNN, who, allegedly paid handsomely for the rights to “air” the death announcement first and to broadcast the funeral proceedings.

Now, at long last, on December 5, 2013 the iconic humanitarian legend, Nelson Mandela’s death has been officially announced and the travesty has finally ended. After an obscene amount of time being kept “alive” in a drawn out process motivated by denial and greed by his surviving family the great man has been allowed to move on. The Las Vegas Guardian Express would like to pass on condolences to the family for the great man’s passing, but, that was done back in June this year. Nevertheless, may Madiba, at last, rest in peace.



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