http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/10ia67/i_am_gov_gary_johnson_the_libertarian_candidate/
Just a heads up for those interested in more on his stances.
Just a heads up for those interested in more on his stances.
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
If you vote for that douche in a swing state you are voting for Obama
Originally posted by: MockeryYou are such an ignorant fool.Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
If you vote for that douche in a swing state you are voting for Obama
And if you vote for Romney, in any state, you are a fucking sell out and might as well have voted for Obama.
Same shit different bubble.
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: MockeryYou are such an ignorant fool.Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
If you vote for that douche in a swing state you are voting for Obama
And if you vote for Romney, in any state, you are a fucking sell out and might as well have voted for Obama.
Same shit different bubble.
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
If you vote for that douche in a swing state you are voting for Obama
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93
Even Republicans hate Romney. Only an Obama loving douche would take votes away from a good choice and waste them on Romney. He won't win and if he did win, he would destroy America and try to make it Mormon.
Vote out Obama, pick a candidate who can win, vote American, vote independent!
Originally posted by: Mockeryno problem kiddo. Your level of ignorance is only exceeded by your temper tantrums. Thank god Cali isn't a swing state.Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: MockeryYou are such an ignorant fool.Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
If you vote for that douche in a swing state you are voting for Obama
And if you vote for Romney, in any state, you are a fucking sell out and might as well have voted for Obama.
Same shit different bubble.
Thank you........
Because as someone who considers you to be the most difficult, obtuse, and mindless troglodyte I have ever wasted words with........Anything divergent of the way you think (or don't think) is an evolutionary advancement IMO.
Originally posted by: -Sesshomaru-Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
If you vote for that douche in a swing state you are voting for Obama
I'm voting for Obama or Gary Johnson specifically to make people who say stuff like this angry (killet and snake)
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93
He won't win and if he did win, he would destroy America and try to make it Mormon.
Originally posted by: subroutine
Seriously Snake? You have so little value to any discussion. It has just become nothing but a predictable waste of time to read your posts.
Originally posted by: DirtyMitten
I have turned at least a dozen and a half people on Facebook who were going to hold their nose and vote for Romney into active Governor Johnson supporters.
Originally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93
Voting independent is far from a waste. What is a waste is throwing away a vote on a suck ass candidate. All it takes is for a few people to believe. Jesse Ventura did it, and he was a clown on the WWE.
Even if the independant candidate does not win, it is far from a wasted vote. It SCREAMS to both parties, the one that narrowly won and the one that narrowly lost, change your position or lose more votes. Change your platform, its about to be taken out from underneath you. Hear the voice of the disenfranchised. We will not pacified by telling us the other guy is bad, the other guy will destroy America. We don;t want to hear vote for me, I might suck, but the other guy really sucks.
Right now small groups have big influence. The religious right, the tea party, LGC. Imagine how big a noise it makes when 15% of the people voting go independent? That roar would drown out the other fucks.
No, voting independent is far from a waste. I can only imagine a farmer in 1775 saying it would be a waste for him to fight against an army like the British. I can only imagine a black woman who walks to the back of the bus because she thinks its a waste or a black preacher not organizing walks because its a waste.
Fuck no. I am American. Americans have a long history of being the underdogs. The bigger the odds the harder we fight. In 200+ years our country has evolved more than others have in centuries because people believe.
Vote independent, vote American, show the same balls that all the people who gave you this country showed.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of storyOriginally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of storyOriginally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
Originally posted by: PuckfistOriginally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of storyOriginally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
Duh, anything less than tattooing an R on your eyes is socialist cowardice.
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of storyOriginally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of story
Michael R. Beschloss
Senior Fellow, Annenberg Washington Program
Third parties have been a crucial factor in a number of elections. Because of third-party candidates, 40 percent of the presidents elected since 1840 lacked a popular-vote majority, which affected their presidencies. In 1856 the Republicans got one-third of the popular vote and eleven states; four years later, they elected Abraham Lincoln. When Theodore Roosevelt ran in 1912 as the Bull Moose candidate, he got 88 electoral votes and changed the outcome of the election.
If you keep third-party candidates out of debates, you are depressing and in certain cases removing the contribution that they have made throughout history. They tend to check the effectiveness of the main parties. They also tend to bring issues onto the national agenda that the major-party candidates sometimes avoid. Finally, competition is healthy in all things. Third-party candidates in presidential debates will have the effect, ultimately, not of weakening the two-party system, but of strengthening it.
Originally posted by: PixelOriginally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of storyOriginally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
uhhh Nader took votes away from Gore not BushII
Originally posted by: PuckfistThat is a retarded comment. But getting the worst President in US history out of office is about what this election should be about. And Gary Johnson has ZERO chance of winnning. NONE. So in swing states voting for him is voting for Obama. Saying its not shows ignorance.Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of storyOriginally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
Duh, anything less than tattooing an R on your eyes is socialist cowardice.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-Originally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
Originally posted by: KilletExactly Killet. But trying to explain that to some of these folks is like talking with a rock. Good luck!Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-Originally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
ok, let me rephrase the question
"and in which election has anyone voting independent made any intended difference at all?"
If an independent ran and actually had a chance of winning, just stormed the polls and debates then by all means vote and hope for the best. I would vote independent in a minute if there was a viable candidate that had momentum and could win . . . unfortunately GJ isnt that guy. The system has been corrupted by the politicians to make a viable 3rd party almost impossible to make a reality.
So at this point you can either give your vote to obama or hold your nose and vote for romney like I will. I wish like hell we had better candidates but it just isnt to be in this election, nor was it in the last, or the one before that, or the one before that etc, etc . . so whine and bitch and moan all you want then decide which candidate (that has a chance to win) you want for the next 4 years and vote for them, or just stay home and keep on whining and moaning and bitching, doesnt matter to me, make yourself happy
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: KilletExactly Killet. But trying to explain that to some of these folks is like talking with a rock. Good luck!Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-Originally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
ok, let me rephrase the question
"and in which election has anyone voting independent made any intended difference at all?"
If an independent ran and actually had a chance of winning, just stormed the polls and debates then by all means vote and hope for the best. I would vote independent in a minute if there was a viable candidate that had momentum and could win . . . unfortunately GJ isnt that guy. The system has been corrupted by the politicians to make a viable 3rd party almost impossible to make a reality.
So at this point you can either give your vote to obama or hold your nose and vote for romney like I will. I wish like hell we had better candidates but it just isnt to be in this election, nor was it in the last, or the one before that, or the one before that etc, etc . . so whine and bitch and moan all you want then decide which candidate (that has a chance to win) you want for the next 4 years and vote for them, or just stay home and keep on whining and moaning and bitching, doesnt matter to me, make yourself happy
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of story
Tell that to George Washington and Teddy Roosevelt. Lincoln, a Republican, was elected because of the effect of a previous independent in the race.
Michael R. Beschloss
Senior Fellow, Annenberg Washington Program
Third parties have been a crucial factor in a number of elections. Because of third-party candidates, 40 percent of the presidents elected since 1840 lacked a popular-vote majority, which affected their presidencies. In 1856 the Republicans got one-third of the popular vote and eleven states; four years later, they elected Abraham Lincoln. When Theodore Roosevelt ran in 1912 as the Bull Moose candidate, he got 88 electoral votes and changed the outcome of the election.
If you keep third-party candidates out of debates, you are depressing and in certain cases removing the contribution that they have made throughout history. They tend to check the effectiveness of the main parties. They also tend to bring issues onto the national agenda that the major-party candidates sometimes avoid. Finally, competition is healthy in all things. Third-party candidates in presidential debates will have the effect, ultimately, not of weakening the two-party system, but of strengthening it.
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of story
Tell that to George Washington and Teddy Roosevelt. Lincoln, a Republican, was elected because of the effect of a previous independent in the race.
Michael R. Beschloss
Senior Fellow, Annenberg Washington Program
Third parties have been a crucial factor in a number of elections. Because of third-party candidates, 40 percent of the presidents elected since 1840 lacked a popular-vote majority, which affected their presidencies. In 1856 the Republicans got one-third of the popular vote and eleven states; four years later, they elected Abraham Lincoln. When Theodore Roosevelt ran in 1912 as the Bull Moose candidate, he got 88 electoral votes and changed the outcome of the election.
If you keep third-party candidates out of debates, you are depressing and in certain cases removing the contribution that they have made throughout history. They tend to check the effectiveness of the main parties. They also tend to bring issues onto the national agenda that the major-party candidates sometimes avoid. Finally, competition is healthy in all things. Third-party candidates in presidential debates will have the effect, ultimately, not of weakening the two-party system, but of strengthening it.
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: PuckfistThat is a retarded comment. But getting the worst President in US history out of office is about what this election should be about. And Gary Johnson has ZERO chance of winnning. NONE. So in swing states voting for him is voting for Obama. Saying its not shows ignorance.Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-the ONLY thing voting independents have done is give the liberals victory. End of storyOriginally posted by: Killet
and in which election has anyone voting independent made any difference at all?
Two that I can think of:
Bush I vs. Clinton (Perot)
Bush II vs. Gore (Nader)
Duh, anything less than tattooing an R on your eyes is socialist cowardice.
Originally posted by: Killet
What part of you have 2 choices that can win do you still not understand?
Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~
They don't grasp it. Being practical is being over ridden by ideology. Very similar to Muslims when you think about.
Originally posted by: Killet
What part of you have 2 choices that can win do you still not understand?