Originally posted by: Cocytus
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: Cocytus
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
Originally posted by: Cocytus
Originally posted by: Nathan Bedford Forrest
...something unpleasant about FDR economically provoking Japan into attacking at Pearl Harbor to justify entry into the war...
Yes, the economic punishment we placed on Japan hurt them to the point of building a shit load of ships and becoming a significant opponent in one of the biggest wars ever.
They did all of that with America strangling them economically. That's a perspective I've heard before from people who hate America. Maybe should have just given the oil to the Japanese for free.
They were waging the war against China with all of that shit, then we cut them off. Then they retaliate. It's that simple. Pointing out the flaws in American Government that results in sending innocent people like Stones' uncle into horrible situations or their deaths is not the actions of one who hates America. The actions of one who hates America would be actively seeking to destroy everything about America. Our current foreign policy is pursuant to that ideology.
Why do you hate America?
There's always two sides to a story. You seem to fall on the side where America has to be the bitch at all times. I got it.
It's interesting that you would side with a bunch of Imperialist butchers that were cruelly murdering Chinese by the hundreds of thousands. You ought to look into the kinds of experiments the Japs were doing to the Chinese.
I fall on the side of truth, no matter who the bad guy is. Even though I can see how they were played and manipulated into doing something dumb, I certainly don't support Japan. You, on the other hand, always fall on the side of the Federal Government. Anything/everything that they do as far as foreign policy is concerned is an angelic act in your eyes. They only ever seem to have the good of the people in mind, even when they needlessly engage in catastrophic wars. Because those hundreds of thousands of dead soldiers dying was best for the people, most of all the now dead soldiers themselves, right?
Maybe one day you will realize that the United States is run by evil people, and has been for most of it's existence.
I'm sure it was recognized that Japan had ambitions. That is probably why we cut off their oil. They attacked oil rich areas and then proceeded onward with their war machine. You seem to forget that other people sometimes are trying to do the dictating. The truth I want to believe is that nobody will ever dictate to America. That is what drives my opinion on this matter. I don't give a fuck what any other country has to say. You fucking fuck with us or our affairs, you are dead.
Japan left us alone prior to Pearl Harbor. They wanted to avoid war with us because they didn't think they'd win. They were right. FDR wanted into the war to create American domination of the planet and to recreate the failed League of Nations. As power hungry as FDR was, he wasn't going to go to war without a declaration from Congress. His cutting off oil from Japan provoked them to retaliate, thus supplying Congress with a reason to enter the war. It was political shenanigans and never should have happened. This is one of the reasons that FDR is the second worst President in American history. He is one of four American Caesars. The others are Abe Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, and Barrack Obama.
The result of the war was American and Soviet domination of the planet, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, The Russo-Afghan War, Al Qaeda, the Global War on Terror, and the United Nations. Of course, the Cold War was the worldwide power struggle between the two superpowers until The USSR fell apart. Now, America stands alone as the only real superpower, with China not far behind. Communist China, of course, was another result of WW2 via the Soviet Union.
Hundreds of millions of people all over the world dead, because of the idiotic power hungry ambitions of Wilson, Lenin, FDR , Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito, Mussolini, Mao and a few others.
These are the fruits of big government.
Post edited by Nathan Bedford Forrest at 12/7/2011 3:49:19 PM_________________
"The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals."
-- Massachusetts Abolitionist, Lysander Spooner
