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Detroit Cop supplies a beatdown at the Casino.

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"A Livonia man accused of inappropriately touching a waitress at the MGM Grand Detroit casino is suing the city of Detroit, saying a Detroit police officer sucker-punched him twice – once when he was down -- in an unprovoked attack this summer.

And he has surveillance video to prove it, he says.

According to court records filed in federal court in Detroit, the incident took place July 30 at the U Me Drink club at the MGM Grand. Patrick Poisson, 38, of Livonia had allegedly inappropriately touched a waitress’s buttocks and would not leave the bar, so the casino’s security summoned Detroit police for help.

The waitress, referred to in court records as a 5-foot-7-inch, 120-pound "Grandette,” told police on a witness statement form that Poisson called her over and “touched my butt with his right hand.” At the time, records show, she was wearing a black Heineken T-shirt and black shorts

One of the responding officers was Arthur Dudal, who approached Poisson and told him to leave, court records show.

What happened next triggered a fight, and a lawsuit.

Poisson says in his lawsuit that he complied with the officer’s request to leave, but that as he walked out, Dudal got in his face and threw a roundhouse right-hand punch, striking his nose, and followed with a left hook to the head, knocking him to the ground. As he lay on the ground in the fetal position, he says, Dudal slugged him again, fracturing two ribs.

Two days later, a warrant was issued for Poisson’s arrest, seeking to charge him with assault and battery on a police officer – saying he threw the first punch – and fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct for touching the waitress.

Maria Miller, a spokesperson for the Wayne County Prosecutor’s office, said that the sexual conduct and resisting arrest charges were both dropped.

“The female victim appeared at the preliminary examination and was placed under oath. She informed the judge … that she did not want to prosecute the case,” Miller said. “The case was adjourned for the prosecution to review the videotape of the incident. After a review of the tape it was determined that we did not have sufficient evidence to proceed and the case was dismissed.”

They also dropped the remaining charges after reviewing MGM security video of the incident, records show.

Poisson, meanwhile, is suing the city and two officers for, among other things, malicious prosecution, extreme humiliation and embarrassment.

Poisson’s lawyer Wolfgang Mueller, who called the incident a “blatant” and “egregious” attack on his client, said the casino’s security video bolsters his claim.

“Anybody who looks at it will see the officer sucker punch my client. He broke his nose,” said Mueller.

What especially irks Mueller, he said, is that the police had his client arrested when they were the wrongdoers.

“The police flat-out lied to cover up what happened,” Mueller said.

“They charged my guy with assault on a police officer because the officer hurt his hand when he was punching my client? That’s pretty much how egregious it is.”

Detroit police declined comment, citing pending litigation.

A summons was issued in federal court today for the city of Detroit and Dudal to respond to the lawsuit within 21 days.

A third defendant, officer Jose Ortiz, also was named in the lawsuit. He was the officer who filed the warrant request seeking to charge Poisson.

Poisson says that Ortiz’s version of events is incorrect, and that the surveillance video contradicts what Ortiz wrote in his request seeking charges.

In his request, Ortiz wrote that “The defendant turned around and charged at Officer Dudal. The defendant attempted to strike Officer Dudal with his right fist but missed. Officer Dudal defended himself by striking the defendant in the face with his right fist. The defendant charged at Officer Dudal a second time. Officer Dudal, in an attempt to defend himself, struck the defendant’s face with his left fist. The defendant fell to the ground and was still fighting with Officer Dudal. Officer Dudal and his partner …. Handcuffed the defendant as he resisted arrest.”

Poisson’s lawsuit, which seeks unspecified damages, claims otherwise. He also denies inappropriately touching the waitress."
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So, the guy was drunk and grabbed a waitresses ass. Ok, no big deal. Hell, even the waitress doesn't think so. They call the cops after the guy won't leave, and the cop beats the guy down because he's drunk and talking shit on the way out the door.

What the fuck did the cop expect from a drunk at a club? It's not like it was a strip club and the dude was trying to rape a dancer or something.

I say lock his ass up for assault and battery, and strip him of his badge.
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Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
I say lock his ass up for assault and battery, and strip him of his badge.

AND City to pay damages.



I don't think he should get anything other than medical bills paid for and any missed time on the job. Tough luck on the tough love, don't be a drunk puke in Detroit. The cop should be disciplined and possibly fired, I'd have to see the tape.

Originally posted by: =>PX<=Major

I don't think he should get anything other than medical bills paid for and any missed time on the job. Tough luck on the tough love, don't be a drunk puke in Detroit. The cop should be disciplined and possibly fired, I'd have to see the tape.



Fluffy linked the video.

I watched it before posting my reply. After watching it, you may want to amend yours.

Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: =>PX<=Major

I don't think he should get anything other than medical bills paid for and any missed time on the job. Tough luck on the tough love, don't be a drunk puke in Detroit. The cop should be disciplined and possibly fired, I'd have to see the tape.



Fluffy linked the video.

I watched it before posting my reply. After watching it, you may want to amend yours.



Oooooohhhh, ok.



Yeah, I'd sign him to a UFC contract, that guy can throw AND he's a finisher!



Originally posted by: =>PX<=Major
Oooooohhhh, ok.



Yeah, I'd sign him to a UFC contract, that guy can throw AND he's a finisher!





No worries. Good to go.

[Figured you would think differently after watching the video given your background.]

The first punch could have been justified by the persons threatening actions in the officer's face. The next three are where the officer went completely over the line and should be prosecuted just as if a civilian hauled off and hit somebody three times.
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Pretty weak punches on the cops part, but yes, that cop is fucked.
& why does it say two sucker punches? I count 4.
There's video evidence of the whole thing & it's obvious that there's plenty of witness's.
He's fucked & will never serve as a police officer again in his life.
& there's plenty of other things i'd be suing that officer for.
Chuck Stones has spoken.

Chuck, are you saying that the civilian had a weak jaw / nose?

I would like to learn from you how you know this stuff.

Please dont kick my ass for asking. Thank you.




Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Pretty weak punches on the cops part, but yes, that cop is fucked.
& why does it say two sucker punches? I count 4.
There's video evidence of the whole thing & it's obvious that there's plenty of witness's.
He's fucked & will never serve as a police officer again in his life.
& there's plenty of other things i'd be suing that officer for.


most likely, the cop moves and gets a job as a cop in another area, this will be forgotten when Dancing with the Stars comes on
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Chuck Stones has spoken.

Chuck, are you saying that the civilian had a weak jaw / nose?

I would like to learn from you how you know this stuff.

Please dont kick my ass for asking. Thank you.






Anybody is going to get knocked out or down like that when you're not expecting punches.
Originally posted by: Killet
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Pretty weak punches on the cops part, but yes, that cop is fucked.
& why does it say two sucker punches? I count 4.
There's video evidence of the whole thing & it's obvious that there's plenty of witness's.
He's fucked & will never serve as a police officer again in his life.
& there's plenty of other things i'd be suing that officer for.


most likely, the cop moves and gets a job as a cop in another area, this will be forgotten when Dancing with the Stars comes on


I believe it's already on.
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Chuck Stones has spoken.

Chuck, are you saying that the civilian had a weak jaw / nose?

I would like to learn from you how you know this stuff.

Please dont kick my ass for asking. Thank you.






Anybody is going to get knocked out or down like that when you're not expecting punches.


Uhhhh...He was drunk?

By the way, send me your address and I'll buy you a subscription to your favorite magazine:


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Originally posted by: =NCG=Leonidas
The first punch could have been justified by the persons threatening actions in the officer's face.


Uhhhhh.....no. That's not how it works. Cops are supposed to uphold the law from people too stupid to know any better. In this case, some drunk guy out having a good time. Even if he looked at the cop and said, "Fuck you man," that doesn't give the cop the right to punch his ass out.
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"An eye for an eye, and the whole world would be blind." - Khalil Gibran

Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Chuck Stones has spoken.

Chuck, are you saying that the civilian had a weak jaw / nose?

I would like to learn from you how you know this stuff.

Please dont kick my ass for asking. Thank you.






Anybody is going to get knocked out or down like that when you're not expecting punches.


Uhhhh...He was drunk?

By the way, send me your address and I'll buy you a subscription to your favorite magazine:



Hardly! The internet has nothing to do with it. Sorry but i'm not some 15 year old trying to be someone that i'm not, unlike a large chunk of the internet.
I'm 40, i don't have to pretend anything.



Chuck Stones, you slay me! Not in real life, just on the internet.


lol what a dummy cop, someone needs some anger management.
Buttttt. He gets off. Guy Shouldn't of stopped and should of raised his left hand up in a fist to face level let alone his right. Maybe a medical bill paid. Officer on unpaid suspension for a week.
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Chuck Stones has spoken.

Chuck, are you saying that the civilian had a weak jaw / nose?

I would like to learn from you how you know this stuff.

Please dont kick my ass for asking. Thank you.






Anybody is going to get knocked out or down like that when you're not expecting punches.


Relax Chuck Stones; you crack me up.

Questions: have you ever been sucker punched? If so, were you knocked down like that?

How can you cuff someone when you're a cop from a different state?

Post edited by burn! at 9/28/2011 1:24:29 PM
Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
Originally posted by: =NCG=Leonidas
The first punch could have been justified by the persons threatening actions in the officer's face.


Uhhhhh.....no. That's not how it works. Cops are supposed to uphold the law from people too stupid to know any better. In this case, some drunk guy out having a good time. Even if he looked at the cop and said, "Fuck you man," that doesn't give the cop the right to punch his ass out.


Um yeah. What I said is true. Try reading again. "The first punch could have been justified"; meaning a competent lawyer could easily make the case that the guy turning around directly in the cops face and raising his hands could be seen as a direct threat needing to be responded to. Is a punch to the face the textbook protocol for how to handle such a threat? No, but it's not illegal, just slightly improper procedure which can be overlooked due to the circumstances (drunk, beliggerant aggressor in the cops face).

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Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Chuck Stones has spoken.

Chuck, are you saying that the civilian had a weak jaw / nose?

I would like to learn from you how you know this stuff.

Please dont kick my ass for asking. Thank you.






Anybody is going to get knocked out or down like that when you're not expecting punches.


Relax Chuck Stones; you crack me up.

Questions: have you ever been sucker punched? If so, were you knocked down like that?



I was sucker punched once in my senior year of high school.
I had my hands in my pockets looking for car keys & i was leaving the school & in the parking lot. Kid i knew & grew up with that i never had problems with, came up & hit me in the back of the head in that soft spot at the base of your skull & it makes you see stars, well i fell to the ground & then was kicked in the mouth with steel toed work boots. My upper jaw had multiple fractures & 3 missing teeth.
Dentist after doing surgery & all saved 2 of my original teeth. He also said he had never seen anybody take that & the surgery & not take any of his prescribed medications.
I never took one
Originally posted by: =NCG=Leonidas

Um yeah. What I said is true. Try reading again. "The first punch could have been justified"; meaning a competent lawyer could easily make the case that the guy turning around directly in the cops face and raising his hands could be seen as a direct threat needing to be responded to.




There is no fucking way in hell a judge or jury would see getting punched in the fucking face by a cop justification for raising your hand.

Did you even see the video? It's not like the dude cocked back a fist ready to throw a punch. The cop over-reacted, admit it. Not justified in the least bit. Also, I'm a HUGE supporter for police officers, but not this time. That cop was wrong. Period.

Originally posted by: =NCG=Leonidas

Is a punch to the face the textbook protocol for how to handle such a threat? No, but it's not illegal, just slightly improper procedure which can be overlooked due to the circumstances (drunk, beliggerant aggressor in the cops face).


Wait, SLIGHTLY IMPROPER procedure? So you think cops go around punching civilians all the time for nothing?

NOT ILLEGAL? Go ahead and punch some random dude in public in front of a cop and see what happens. Then try telling the cop that the dude raised his hand in front of you. Go ahead, do it. Make sure you have bail money though.


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"An eye for an eye, and the whole world would be blind." - Khalil Gibran

Originally posted by: Stoneymontana


Hardly! The internet has nothing to do with it. Sorry but i'm not some 15 year old trying to be someone that i'm not, unlike a large chunk of the internet.
I'm 40, i don't have to pretend anything.



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"An eye for an eye, and the whole world would be blind." - Khalil Gibran

Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana


Hardly! The internet has nothing to do with it. Sorry but i'm not some 15 year old trying to be someone that i'm not, unlike a large chunk of the internet.
I'm 40, i don't have to pretend anything.




If that's what you have to tell yourself.
Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana


Hardly! The internet has nothing to do with it. Sorry but i'm not some 15 year old trying to be someone that i'm not, unlike a large chunk of the internet.
I'm 40, i don't have to pretend anything.







Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
Originally posted by: =NCG=Leonidas

Um yeah. What I said is true. Try reading again. "The first punch could have been justified"; meaning a competent lawyer could easily make the case that the guy turning around directly in the cops face and raising his hands could be seen as a direct threat needing to be responded to.




There is no fucking way in hell a judge or jury would see getting punched in the fucking face by a cop justification for raising your hand.

Did you even see the video? It's not like the dude cocked back a fist ready to throw a punch. The cop over-reacted, admit it. Not justified in the least bit. Also, I'm a HUGE supporter for police officers, but not this time. That cop was wrong. Period.

Originally posted by: =NCG=Leonidas

Is a punch to the face the textbook protocol for how to handle such a threat? No, but it's not illegal, just slightly improper procedure which can be overlooked due to the circumstances (drunk, beliggerant aggressor in the cops face).


Wait, SLIGHTLY IMPROPER procedure? So you think cops go around punching civilians all the time for nothing?

NOT ILLEGAL? Go ahead and punch some random dude in public in front of a cop and see what happens. Then try telling the cop that the dude raised his hand in front of you. Go ahead, do it. Make sure you have bail money though.



Your ignorance of the law is only eclipsed by your ignorance of personal finance and proper parenting.
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Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Chuck Stones has spoken.

Chuck, are you saying that the civilian had a weak jaw / nose?

I would like to learn from you how you know this stuff.

Please dont kick my ass for asking. Thank you.






Anybody is going to get knocked out or down like that when you're not expecting punches.


Relax Chuck Stones; you crack me up.

Questions: have you ever been sucker punched? If so, were you knocked down like that?



I was sucker punched once in my senior year of high school.
I had my hands in my pockets looking for car keys & i was leaving the school & in the parking lot. Kid i knew & grew up with that i never had problems with, came up & hit me in the back of the head in that soft spot at the base of your skull & it makes you see stars, well i fell to the ground & then was kicked in the mouth with steel toed work boots. My upper jaw had multiple fractures & 3 missing teeth.
Dentist after doing surgery & all saved 2 of my original teeth. He also said he had never seen anybody take that & the surgery & not take any of his prescribed medications.
I never took one


Ok, fair enough.

Ive been ambushed twice, both times taking shots that rocked my world, but didnt put me on the ground. I lost one fight (it was 5 v 1 -I was jumped) and won the second fight. Such is life on the streets of Los Angeles as a teenager.

My point: Not every shot will put you on the deck.

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