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UFC 135: Jones vs Rampage

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UFC 135: Jones vs. Rampage
Date: Sep 24, 2011
Location: Denver, Colorado
Venue: Pepsi Center
Broadcast: Pay-per-view, Spike TV and Facebook

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)
Champ Jon Jones vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson (for light-heavyweight title)
Matt Hughes vs. Josh Koscheck
Rob Broughton vs. Travis Browne
Nate Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi
Mark Hunt vs. Ben Rothwell

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)
Aaron Riley vs. Tony Ferguson
Tim Boetsch vs. Nick Ring

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)
Ricardo Romero vs. James Te Huna
Cole Escovedo vs. Takeya Mizugaki
Junior Assuncao vs. Eddie Yagin


The main fight is Jones first title defense. It's been quote a story with Rampage accusing Jones of spying on him in camp. It's a great fight and I like both fighters, so I'm not rooting for either fighter. But Jones looks to unstoppable, so I pick Jones by KO. The ironic part is that Rampage is the last LHW to defend his belt successfully. I guess Machida did, but nobody thought he won, so it was an immediate rematch.




Koscheck vs Hughes. Hughes is on a 3 fight win streak and everyone has been counting him out in every fight. But Koscheck is just to good. Hughes can't out wrestle or strike Kos at this point in his career. I expect Kos to KO him.

Rob Broughton vs. Travis Browne is a battle of HW prospects who like to slug. I go with Browne as he's fought in the UFC twice.

Nate Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi. Gomi is 1-2 in the octagon and Nate diaz has lost his last 2 fights. Diaz will come out and try to pepper him with shots and Gomi will try to take his head off. I just got a feeling that Gomi's power will win.

Mark Hunt vs. Ben Rothwell. A battle of veteran heavy weights that will slug. Rothwell has been out for a year plus. Hunt only slugs, no kicks, Rothwell is more versatile and may try to take this to the ground, but Hunt's power and chin will be too much for Rothwell.
Rampage is a crazy beast, but Jones via whatever he wants.

Hope Hughes gets the win, will likely be his last fight.

Diaz should win easily.

I hope Hunt/Rothwell won't be a snoozefest, gas tanks empty after 30 seconds...

Will post my tapology chart later.

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Why not Zoidberg??
the rampage jones commercials are great, saw them together on kimmel earlier this week, he made them say something nice about each other, was pretty good, probably on youtube now


I would love to see rampage win but think jones is gonna overpower him. hope not tho.

Hughes vs Kos . . .I hope hughes pulls it out, cant stand kos

diaz vs gomi, puling for gomi jus cause I can

should be a descent night of fights all around
I'm not a huge fan of Jacksons, but I do hope he wins.

I'm hoping Matt Hughes has one more in him, KOS is an asshole.

I hope Gomi destroys Diaz. He's not nearly as much of a tool as his brother, but he's still a Diaz.

I'm pulling for Ben Rothwell over Mark Hunt. If he can dodge those bombs from Hunt, he'll come out with a victory. Plus, I've heard he's in the best shape of his life and has a new camp. Ring rust is never a good thing but in this case, he's used his time wisely. Go Ben!

The other fights on the card, I'm not as interested in but this looks to be like a very good card.

Champ Jon Jones vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson:
Everybody remembers the old Ramapage, the PRIDE Rampage. This guy is not that Rampage and hasn't been since he lost to Forrest. He got whopped by Machida and somehow lucked out with a decision that even he said he didn't deserve.

How is he going to have an answer for Jones who ripped through Shogun Rua with such ease? I understand you cheer for your favorites and vote with your heart, and anything can happen. If you had to bet all the money you have who would you pick? Smart bet would be Jones, and it will be Jones. It will be good for Jones to get this validation after beating Rampage.


Matt Hughes vs. Josh Koscheck: Same for Hughes vs Kos. The old Hughes is gone. And as far as Kos being a dick, anyone remember how Hughes acted toward GSP after their first fight? Especially when they were both on Tuff. Hughes can be a giant dick head surpasing Kos. At least I believe Kos does it to hype fights. Kos by KO round 1


Nate Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi: If it goes to the ground early Diaz by triangle or arm bar. If it stays standing, dec that could go either way.



Rob Broughton vs. Travis Brown: Brown knocked out Stephen Straub, and Straub is a solid fighter. He has 8 first round KO's. Brown by KO


Mark Hunt vs. Ben Rothwell: If Rothwell is healed he will win. Hunt is at the twilight of his career.


Aaron Riley vs. Tony Ferguson: Ferguson looked good in wins on TUF, especially the final. This should be a set up fight for him. Another old school vs new kid fight.


The card looks pretty solid, but the if every fight got canceled people would still show up to watch Rampage vs Jones.
Where can I make my predictions in the chart that I think Redneck posts after the fight? I want to try my hand at that and see how well I know the fighters.
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Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
Where can I make my predictions in the chart that I think Redneck posts after the fight? I want to try my hand at that and see how well I know the fighters.


Go here and make an account. You get points for doing stuff on the site and getting picks correct, can rank up with your belt. I mainly use it to keep track of picks though.

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Why not Zoidberg??
Thanks. You want to refer me? I don't know what you get, but there's a spot to put in a 4 digit refer code from a friend.
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That link should make you referred by me

5049 looks like my code... I think I just get a hundred points towards my next belt, plus an award for inviting. Woo.
Post edited by TheRedneck at 9/23/2011 3:13:58 PM


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Why not Zoidberg??


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did anyone get pregnant after their rough gay sex on the mat?
Originally posted by: samUwell
did anyone get pregnant after their rough gay sex on the mat?


Every time you say this it gets funnier and funnier which must be why you say it over and over. I will never get tired of you saying BJJ / MMA / wrestling is gay. How did you come up with it?
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93
How did you come up with it?

Repressed homosexuality... even though there's nothing wrong with being gay.

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Why not Zoidberg??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPOiLER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


I got to see the Hughes/Kos fight and the Jones/Jackson fight. The outcome was as expected with Kos and Jones winning, but Jones fight was wild.


The title fight was awesome. I think Jones stretched that fight into four rounds to prove he could go deep into a fight. Amazing how he totally controlled Rampage.

Hughes is done and may not even be a capable gatekeeper at this point. Rampage might have just moved into the gatekeeper realm. He is moving toward the twilight of his career and that will be his last title shot, at least at that weight class while Jones is fighting like that.


I did not get to see the other fights. Anyone have a link to them or some of them?
Post edited by Bigguns 93 at 9/25/2011 1:18:52 PM


Not too bad for my first prediction
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I thought Hughes looked awesome until he got clipped. He was winning the entire first round with quicker, faster and more precise striking, but KOS just has more power. I don't think Hughes is done per se, I just think he's older and doesn't have the chin he had before. He'll never fight for the title again, but he's not far removed from a 3 fight win streak.

Jones didn't look great imo. Rampage and Jones both looked hesitant. Rampage defended the take downs which was amazing. He was just afraid to throw. I thought Diaz looked awesome. Tony Fergusen looks like the real deal. Browne is a boring heavy weight. Hunt and Rothwell need to shed the baby fat. They're in their mid 30's, it's about time.
You must have seen a fight from a parallel universe, or I did because that's not what I saw.

Jones dominated Rampage from the crazy spider crab move in the beginning to the end. Ramapage took heavy damage and I think he was so beaten by the time the choke came he let that choke take him out rather than get KO. Watch the choke, its not a good rear naked, he takes his hand off the head and just squeezes. Without the pressure of the head being pushed forward its significantly less effective. It worked because it was applied to a beaten man.

Rampage knew there was going to take downs and spent his whole camp working on defending them. Jones knew Rampage would work that and Jones wanted to prove he could stand up with a striker and take the fight deep. I believe Jones would have carried Rampage into the 5th if Rampage didn't offer up his neck.

I like Rampage. I thought he fought hard and was well prepared. He looked completely frazzled by the end of the second. That spinning elbow Jones laid on the top of his head hurt him. Watch the tape, watch the replay in slow motion, he is staggered and flinches as the pain and shock hit and he expects more. Rampage is a warrior and pushes forward.

Jones looked incredible. His striking was top notch. His leg kicks and kicks to the head and knees were brutal. Rampage was tenative because he had no idea where the next strike would come from - punch, elbow, forearm, knee, kick..

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Hughes looked BETTER in his STRIKING. That was always his weak point. He had to improve striking and it had no where to go but up. Not the power but the technique. Hughes looking better in striking is not a giant accomplishment, any focus on it would make him better.


Hughes is a wrestler who learned some strong subs and defense without being really skilled BJJ and a brawler/striker who isn't a good boxer / kick boxer / muay thai.


The reason Hughes did as well as he did was because Kos obviously still has issues with the injuries from the GSP fight. Hughes early hits to eye caused Kos not only to react, but it showed immediate swelling. His orbital socket is not back to normal and may never be back to normal.

Even with Hughes being at his best ever in striking and Kos having an injured orbital, Kos still got the better of the striking with his counter punch, easily rocked Hughes, and finished him.


Hughes has gotten hand picked fights. He was a champion that helped make the UFC and they are taking care of him. Even with 3 win he was NEVER going to get another title shot. He would have never been paired with Kos if Diego had not pulled out and I am surprised that Hughes accepted but he must have believed he could abuse that injury to Kos and have an advantage on the short notice ( Diego pulled out on the 5th for a fight on the 24th).


Hughes is done. He might take a fight or two, hand picked, but he barely would be a gatekeeper. He might serve to weed out some new fighters but any new fighter would go crazy to build his rep on Hughes, similar to what happened to Jens Pulver ( one of my favorite all time fighters).


At his age and with the number of fights he has had, and with his inability to really progress his skills any further, Hughes needs to look to retiring. Great career, great record, Hall of Fame. Quit while people remember the good fights before you create more highlight losses.





Post edited by Bigguns 93 at 9/27/2011 11:37:41 AM
I think Jones did well, but he's looked much more confident and precise in previous fights. Shogun, he ran out and did a flying knee right off the bat. Considering his opponent looked scared I don't think he was as sharp as he was in previous fights. I think you're taking my comment to say he looked bad, I didn't mean that. But for Jones, he looked...beatable in that fight. Maybe it was Rampage, but it looked like he was respecting Rampage's power.


JON BONES JONES! HES FROM MY HOME TOWN, I SEE HIM AT TEH BARS!
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93
How did you come up with it?
oh... i dont know. maybe it had something to do with watching 2 guys humping each other on the mat in hopes of landing a elbow but hey, if thats what you enjoy watching, more power to you.

just make sure to get to the Castro for the next big fight. you'll fit right in. turns out, a lot of guys enjoy watching other guys humping on a mat.
Originally posted by: samUwell
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93
How did you come up with it?
oh... i dont know. maybe it had something to do with watching 2 guys humping each other on the mat in hopes of landing a elbow but hey, if thats what you enjoy watching, more power to you.

just make sure to get to the Castro for the next big fight. you'll fit right in. turns out, a lot of guys enjoy watching other guys humping on a mat.


Still funny. You can't repeat the same joke enough for me. How do you do it?
Originally posted by: Bigguns 93
How do you do it?
what really puzzles me is; why on earth would you pay $50 per fight when you can watch it all on youjizz for free?
$45, unless you do HD, which is $55, unless you go to a bar, then it's cost of food\beer, unless you dl it for free.

I prefer going to a bar to watch the jizzation or dling it at home to watch rough gay sex.

And for the record, I'm pretty sure your website for free doesn't include donkey punches and triangle chokes which is oral rape. If I'm going to take the time to watch gay sex, there better fucking be donkey punching in there. So I pay for it.
Still funny.






FYI I recently reffed a BJJ tournament. Had 1 woman wrestle in the Mens division, I assume that was a Chazz Bono situation (see how I picked up your lead!). Also had Womens division but probably all Lesbians .

Note to women - if you wear a thong in a no-gi tournamet chances of you showing a whale tale are 100%. Chances of the ref being distracted by such are high. Wear some compression shorts underneath your board shorts.


If not you risk this being all the crowd sees in their mind


Post edited by Bigguns 93 at 9/28/2011 11:58:07 AM
I found a new picture of SamUWell:


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Or you could wait a week & it's free on satellite. At least i believe i saw that scrolling through last night.
Originally posted by: =TIO= Fluffytuff
I found a new picture of SamUWell:


FAKE!... his shirt isn't off in that pic.

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Originally posted by: Stoneymontana
Or you could wait a week & it's free on satellite. At least i believe i saw that scrolling through last night.
a ppv is not free. No UFC, not even a month later, is free. Only way it's free is something they show on TV like UFC unleashed or whatever.

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