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Historical capture recovered from the Wayback Machine · captured 2008-01-23 · 74 posts
Yes i have heard about people saying killing animal for fur is bad and wearing it is promoting this violence against animals. Now i see why in the movies when people wear fur coat they get splash with red paint by other people. At first, i thought those people throwing paint at fur coat are retarded, but after watching this video i got to say i will never promote or agree in wearing fur coat again. The people in this video you will see you will seriously want to kill them for harming animals.

http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/

people underage should not see this or have a sick stomach.
this is an inside on chinese fur trade.
this will be another winner of a thread, I'm sure.



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I've seen the skinning alive video before, pretty sad.

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=meet_your_meat&Player=wm

This is my favorite one, an interesting view into the food industry. Plenty of skewed facts, however.
Whether you kill an animal for its food or pelt---in the end, a dead animal is a dead animal. They're here for us to eat and if necessary provide warmth via a coat or some other use.
However...that doesn't mean that wholesale cruelty to animals...just for the sake of cruelty is okay. Fur coats are cool if you want to wear them...however, they're cost prohibitive and something synthetic is far cheaper and probably 2-3 times more likely to keep you warm. However, if some asshat threw red paint on me or something like that to make a political point, I'd have no qualms about turning their face into hamburger...and perhaps putting THEM on the grill.

I love the leather coat I got for Christmas.


"I don't believe in an eye for an eye, I believe in two eyes for an eye." - Bas Rutten
I love animals, they taste so good. Though I am against animal cruelty, what is done is done, nothing can change that.

If you were to splash red paint on my new coat, I would fuck you up.
PETA loves animals so much that they kill 90 something percent of the ones they "save" each year.
Honestly what a utoptian ideal it is to believe in "no cruelty to animals." I can't watch those videos, because they just piss me off. Its like watching a battered wife get battered over and over again. But what would you have me do? The simple truth is, humanity's universal commonplace, is their cruelty. Its a fact of our world. I can waste my life protesting, or I can simply accept it as a fact of the world we live in, and move on.

I'd throw red paint on someone's thousand dollar fur coat just to piss people off. I also key every BMW I see. I'm such a rebel.
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Originally posted by: SammySoc
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Originally posted by: SammySoc
I'd throw red paint on someone's thousand dollar fur coat just to piss people off. I also key every BMW I see. I'm such a rebel.


Careful who's BMW you key. Someone might kneecap you one day
i agree fur is bad. it's best for her to shave/wax.
Originally posted by: leroybrown
....Besides, I love the warm salty juice.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......
Originally posted by: cimat1984
this will be another winner of a thread, I'm sure.





Yep.
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Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
i am a pussy
well im not saying killing animal for food or clothing is bad, but making it painful and torturing them and skinnning while they are alive and their feet is still kicking is bad. i mean if you want to kill it just kill it, dont make it suffer.
The should at least try to anesthetize the animals before skinning them....

But syringes are expensive... so's the anesthetics... Better to just strike them with a chisel around the C-3 par tof their spine at the base of their heads... that's how drug researchers euthanize the test animals...


People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?
Killing animals for food is one thing. I don't hunt deer, because I don't eat deer meat. If I ate deer meat, I'd hunt deer. But this is America in the 21st century. There's no need to kill an animal for it's fur, except to make a fashion statement, which is retarded. I would like to wear a coat made of human skin, but it's not practical, or humane, so I refrain from skinning my neighbors.

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Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?


Exactly.

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Anyone who has an issue with fur should also have an issue with eating meat. There is no difference. I am all for the most humane treatment of any animal, but I will still eat meat. I don't condone wearing a fur coat just for fashion, but I have no issues about wearing my winter fur lined hat or my leather gloves.



Originally posted by: Evil Napkin
Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?


Exactly.


you guys mean scale the fish or actually gut it out? cuz gutting it kills it, ya know?

i have never scaled a live fish, we would always wait till we got home, by then, they were dead. very.
Originally posted by: leroybrown
....Besides, I love the warm salty juice.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......
Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
Originally posted by: Evil Napkin
Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?


Exactly.


you guys mean scale the fish or actually gut it out? cuz gutting it kills it, ya know?

i have never scaled a live fish, we would always wait till we got home, by then, they were dead. very.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikizukuri


Originally posted by: =>PX<=Major
Anyone who has an issue with fur should also have an issue with eating meat. There is no difference. I am all for the most humane treatment of any animal, but I will still eat meat. I don't condone wearing a fur coat just for fashion, but I have no issues about wearing my winter fur lined hat or my leather gloves.





Quit stating common sense. It confuzzles people around here who are vastly more complex then you or I, and can list the systematic destruction of animals to support their deep understanding of nature and the inherent cruelty of man. This is why you havent evolved to a higher plane yet, gosh.

Next thing ya know, the possibility of mocking of someone who is for saving the whales while being pro abortion will be next. No, no, no, no hypocrasy there at all.
PATRIOTIC DISSENT IS A LUXURY OF THOSE PROTECTED BY BETTER MEN THAN THEY.

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Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
i am a pussy
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
Originally posted by: Evil Napkin
Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?


Exactly.


you guys mean scale the fish or actually gut it out? cuz gutting it kills it, ya know?

i have never scaled a live fish, we would always wait till we got home, by then, they were dead. very.


Ikezukuri

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikizukuri




ya, but you think these two rednecks even know what the hell Iskurukuki is?


....cuz i certainly didnt....
Originally posted by: leroybrown
....Besides, I love the warm salty juice.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......
Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ

ya, but you think these two rednecks even know what the hell Iskurukuki is?


....cuz i certainly didnt....


Well Ikezukuri hasn't exactly become a very well known Nascar sponsor yet, if that's what you're asking.

hehe
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
Originally posted by: Evil Napkin
Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?


Exactly.


you guys mean scale the fish or actually gut it out? cuz gutting it kills it, ya know?

i have never scaled a live fish, we would always wait till we got home, by then, they were dead. very.


Ikezukuri

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikizukuri




Savages.
right next to that video was this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTRpPba5qz0

oh, that would be so funny to watch a restaurant try to do that at Mall of America or at Epcot Center, just to mention a few.

would be on the "5'clock news" by noon!
Originally posted by: leroybrown
....Besides, I love the warm salty juice.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......
Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
Originally posted by: Evil Napkin
Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?


Exactly.


you guys mean scale the fish or actually gut it out? cuz gutting it kills it, ya know?

i have never scaled a live fish, we would always wait till we got home, by then, they were dead. very.



Yes gutting. Sorry i dont fish.
fur...ehh fur isnt anything special. Theres nothing wrong with wearing fur or leather, whats wrong with it is the way its harvested....but China is pretty much famous for thier lack of compassion to animals that are used as a commodity. I dont know if they even keep pets for pets.

IMO any animal thats killed should be killed humanely, just no need for the suffering. Cultures should be judged by the way they treat animals



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Who scales live fish?
That Ikizukuri looks REAL fresh....
I wonder what it tastes like...



Y'know... freshness is a wierd thing in asia. There are restaurants in Hong Kong where you go the the tanks, and pick out which fish you want them to cook.
They fry the thing up, and serve it to you, but the head is still alive.



Supposed to be real good, too.
I think 70's Porn will do more to turn people off fur than this will.
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Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?

Most of the people I know bash the fish's head in with a rock before preparing them.
Industrial scale animal cruelty is pathetic, and I personally would endorse a complete ban on all imported fur from places such as these.
Originally posted by: Coba|t
Originally posted by: CrazyTexan
People skin fish when they are still alive. Whats the difference?

Most of the people I know bash the fish's head in with a rock before preparing them.
Industrial scale animal cruelty is pathetic, and I personally would endorse a complete ban on all imported fur from places such as these.


Any fish I plan on eating first thing I usually do is cut the head off. I am 99% sure that it is dead by the time I filet it
Originally posted by: IrishRebel
I love animals, they taste so good. Though I am against animal cruelty, what is done is done, nothing can change that.

If you were to splash red paint on my new coat, I would fuck you up.


I stopped reading the thread right here, because I don't need to say anymore.

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Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-

Next thing ya know, the possibility of mocking of someone who is for saving the whales while being pro abortion will be next. No, no, no, no hypocrasy there at all.

Maybe I am 'confuzzled', but are you really comparing the slow death of an intelligent developed animal to the killing of a microscopic embryo?

The killing of animals is life, but atleast have some respect and save the thing from suffering for too long..
Originally posted by: -Swo0p

Maybe I am 'confuzzled', but are you really comparing the slow death of an intelligent developed animal to the killing of a microscopic embryo?


I lol'ed at that as well - especially considering the 'embryos' haven't even developed a nervous system, yet. Unless, of course, you support late-term abortions, which I don't know anyone who does minus the mother's life being in danger.
When I cook lobster... there's two ways I do it.

Cantonese-style... I gotta chop the thing up while it's alive... well, what I really do is just take the dorsal shell, and I tear it off the body... which usually just does the thing in.
Then after that, I chop the thing up into cubes and stir fry it with black bean sauce, chopped pork, and eggs and stuff.

kinda like that, but not as pretty


Otherwise, I boil the things.. big 16quart or 20 quart stock pot filled with boiling water... and I drop them in head first so they don't flail all over the place.
Originally posted by: -Swo0p
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-

Next thing ya know, the possibility of mocking of someone who is for saving the whales while being pro abortion will be next. No, no, no, no hypocrasy there at all.

Maybe I am 'confuzzled', but are you really comparing the slow death of an intelligent developed animal to the killing of a microscopic embryo?

The killing of animals is life, but atleast have some respect and save the thing from suffering for too long..


You dont see the dichotomy there huh?

Look, if you are all about saving a life, then how can you be for the termination of anything else? Life is life. I dont get into all the semantics of what you want to call a life form as that is just window dressing. You cant have it both ways.

Save the Whales! But I support Pro Choice! See how stupid that is?


PATRIOTIC DISSENT IS A LUXURY OF THOSE PROTECTED BY BETTER MEN THAN THEY.

A Coward dies a thousand deaths, a Hero only one.
Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
i am a pussy
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: -Swo0p
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-

Next thing ya know, the possibility of mocking of someone who is for saving the whales while being pro abortion will be next. No, no, no, no hypocrasy there at all.

Maybe I am 'confuzzled', but are you really comparing the slow death of an intelligent developed animal to the killing of a microscopic embryo?

The killing of animals is life, but atleast have some respect and save the thing from suffering for too long..


You dont see the dichotomy there huh?

Look, if you are all about saving a life, then how can you be for the termination of anything else? Life is life. I dont get into all the semantics of what you want to call a life form as that is just window dressing. You cant have it both ways.

Save the Whales! But I support Pro Choice! See how stupid that is?


Are you suggesting that we give whales the option of abortion?

I don't follow the logic in that one.
Originally posted by: Coba|t
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
Originally posted by: -Swo0p
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-

Next thing ya know, the possibility of mocking of someone who is for saving the whales while being pro abortion will be next. No, no, no, no hypocrasy there at all.

Maybe I am 'confuzzled', but are you really comparing the slow death of an intelligent developed animal to the killing of a microscopic embryo?

The killing of animals is life, but atleast have some respect and save the thing from suffering for too long..


You dont see the dichotomy there huh?

Look, if you are all about saving a life, then how can you be for the termination of anything else? Life is life. I dont get into all the semantics of what you want to call a life form as that is just window dressing. You cant have it both ways.

Save the Whales! But I support Pro Choice! See how stupid that is?


Are you suggesting that we give whales the option of abortion?

I don't follow the logic in that one.


Still out in left field. Get with he program, that isnt what I said nor is that the point.
PATRIOTIC DISSENT IS A LUXURY OF THOSE PROTECTED BY BETTER MEN THAN THEY.

A Coward dies a thousand deaths, a Hero only one.
Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
i am a pussy
Originally posted by: DieselFuel!
Who scales live fish?


dont know, but he must be missing some fingers! those fuckers get all jumpy
Originally posted by: leroybrown
....Besides, I love the warm salty juice.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......
Originally posted by: Stryk
I think 70's Porn will do more to turn people off fur than this will.


my sentiments exactly.
Originally posted by: leroybrown
....Besides, I love the warm salty juice.
Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......