Senator Mitchell: MLB Steroid List from Report

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Fr anklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts ,Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott S choenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood

This is amazing.

And honestly, it makes guys like Ken Griffey, Jr and others who didn't juice up look even better. Imagine if he did what Bonds, Canseco, Clemens, and Sosa did?

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I don't believe they were using steroids. False allegations!

Aliens put the steroids into their blood streams.

HAHA this is awesome. Fuck the Yankees!!!!

Originally posted by: IrishRebel
I don't believe they were using steroids. False allegations!

Aliens put the steroids into their blood streams.

Or their trainers.

What i think is the worst part about this, is that this is all just from hear say.
There is no proof these people did this, Bud Selig is just a complete moron. He is the laughing stock of the sports world.
Post edited by Stones at 12/13/2007 3:22:01 PM

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Originally posted by: Stones
What i think is the worst part about this, is that this is all just from hear say.
There is no proof these people did this, Bud Selig is just a complete moron. He is the laughing stock of the sports world.

If you knew people were using drugs, why not keep it a secret and test these guys to get the proof they need to bust them out of the league?

Interesting point you make! Will these players be able to sue the MLB if they just put up a list and don't have any proof?

I think they must have proof if they are going to make this list. Maybe they are just a dopey as the players.

It's a list of speculation imo, that's all. I'm not saying they didn't take these drugs but unless MLB has 100% proof they did this then this shouldn't be happening. & if they do in fact have 100% proof then why are these people still playing the sport?
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Well they have proof Pettite and Clemens took them.
their trainer told Mitchell he injected them with steroids.

If somebody like the government really wants to step in & stop this then they really should be looking at the people at the high school & college levels in these sports. That is where the real problem lies. That is where the pressure really comes from for them to HAVE to succeed. Once they are a pro i think the pressure is somewhat off & the numbers of people taking them is much lower then it is in college sports.
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Originally posted by: _Crunch
Well they have proof Pettite and Clemens took them.
their trainer told Mitchell he injected them with steroids.

Third party testimony != proof. That would require corroboration.

Unless of course he kept the needles for DNA or something.
Post edited by DieselFuel! at 12/13/2007 3:37:25 PM

Originally posted by: DieselFuel!

Originally posted by: _Crunch
Well they have proof Pettite and Clemens took them.
their trainer told Mitchell he injected them with steroids.

Third party testimony != proof. That would require corroboration.

Unless of course he kept the needles for DNA or something.

Exactly.
I sold some roids to Brett Favre once. Proof!
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wheres your source for those names? im looking at the report and am having trouble finding a few

Originally posted by: noonz91
wheres your source for those names? im looking at the report and am having trouble finding a few

For what names? Petite & Clemens?
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being a red sox fan ive been double checking a few and havent found them such as: nomar, julian tavares, trot nixon ect. i think your list if faulty

Originally posted by: _Crunch
HAHA this is awesome. Fuck the Yankees!!!!

Did I miss something, were the Yankees the only team represented as having players who are on that list?

Oh no that's right, every single team has a player or players on there.

Originally posted by: Stones

Originally posted by: DieselFuel!

Originally posted by: _Crunch
Well they have proof Pettite and Clemens took them.
their trainer told Mitchell he injected them with steroids.

Third party testimony != proof. That would require corroboration.

Unless of course he kept the needles for DNA or something.

Exactly.
I sold some roids to Brett Favre once. Proof!

So did I and I saw you do it. Now he's guilty.
That's corroborating a story.

All too easy, right?

In all honesty, who cares about baseball any more? Really?

I just saw a story on MLIVE, I don't think that list is correct. According to MLIVE, Pudge is not on the Mitchell list.

Being such a high profile list, I am interested to see a detailed report on how this was done. Does anyone have a link?

Where did you get this list from Pillbug? It's looking bogus.
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Bottom line is baseball is fucking boring and no one gives a flying fuck.


/me ducks thrown objects

I was planning on reading the entire report until I found out that it is 310 pages plus appendicies.

For those that wish to browse through the different sections it can be found at the link below.

http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf

Here's a complete list, linked from NBCSports.com. The link is Rotoworld, but NBCSports.com gives us the link on their front page

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=MLB&columnid=127&articleid=29671


Chad Allen
Rick Ankiel

David Bell
Mike Bell
Gary Bennett Jr
Larry Bigbie
Barry Bonds
Kevin Brown
Paul Byrd

Jose Canseco
Mark Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Howie Clark
Roger Clemens
Jack Cust

Brendan Donnelly
Chris Donnels
Lenny Dykstra

Matt Franco
Ryan Franklin

Eric Gagne
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen

Jerry Hairston Jr
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Darren Holmes
Todd Hundley

David Justice

Chuck Knoblauch

Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan

Gary Matthews Jr
Josias Mazanillo
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris

Danny Neagle

Jim Parque
Andy Pettite
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt

Stephen Randolph
Brian Roberts
John Rocker
Adam Riggs

F.P. Santangelo
David Segui
Scott Shoeneweis
Mike Stanton

Miguel Tejada

Ismael Valdez
Mo Vaughn
Fernando Vina
Ron Villone

Rondell White
Jeff Williams
Matt Williams
Todd Williams
Steve Woodard

Kevin Young

Originally posted by: Andural69
Bottom line is baseball is fucking boring and no one gives a flying fuck.


/me ducks thrown objects

The Bears are boring as fuck as well but everybody isn't tossing stones at their wagon.
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No Sammy or Mark, that's odd. Other than a couple articles naming a trainer or 2, I'm curious as to how they got the information. And I'd like to see if these are people that tried short term or long term as well.

While, it's doubtful that someone wouldn't lie, from a trainer point, it's possible that for example...Clemens could of been a dick to the Yankees trainer and he just added the name to his list to be a bitch. So keep that in mind for all the players, depending on what evidence is shown on these guys.

Originally posted by: Andural69
Here's a complete list, linked from NBCSports.com. The link is Rotoworld, but NBCSports.com gives us the link on their front page

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=MLB&columnid=127&articleid=29671

This list is entirely different & much more believable then Pillbugs list that i'm guessing he copied & pasted from the rumor list from the other thread.

Shame on you Pillbug. You know you should at least be posting links to prove your info according to TWLs thread making rules.

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Originally posted by: Stones

Originally posted by: Andural69
Bottom line is baseball is fucking boring and no one gives a flying fuck.


/me ducks thrown objects

The Bears are boring as fuck as well but everybody isn't tossing stones at their wagon.

They are anything but boring. It's like playing Russian roulette throughout the game. Any play could be the one that makes or breaks you. It's frustrating to watch, but not boring.

Originally posted by: Andural69
No Sammy or Mark, that's odd. Other than a couple articles naming a trainer or 2, I'm curious as to how they got the information. And I'd like to see if these are people that tried short term or long term as well.

While, it's doubtful that someone wouldn't lie, from a trainer point, it's possible that for example...Clemens could of been a dick to the Yankees trainer and he just added the name to his list to be a bitch. So keep that in mind for all the players, depending on what evidence is shown on these guys.

Andural...While yes, he was the Yankees trainer, he was also the personal trainer for both Clemens and Pettitte. They were paying him for his services.

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Originally posted by: reimero
In all honesty, who cares about baseball any more? Really?

Um... Try millions of people, including myself. This was one of the most successful years in Baseball in terms of stadium attendance and sales.

Just because you don't give a crap about baseball does not mean everyone else shares the same hate for the game as you do.

Originally posted by: Snake
If they broke the law then should pay the price. Who cares if they are liked or not
Post edited by ~~Snake~~ at 12/13/2007 11:03:13 AM

I didnt get a chance to reply to this in the other thread before it got locked, but I totally agree. I know you made this comment in a vain attempt to be disrespectful and get on my nerves, but you couldn't have failed more miserably.

The only problem you seem to be ignorant of, is that it is near-impossible to prove these sorts of cases. There are no "murder weapons" so to speak, and most of the witnesses associated with steroids arent exactly 'credible.' So in essence, all they can really do is drag me on the stand, and ask me if I did steroids 5 years ago. All they can really do, is blow it up in the media, harass me, and tarnish my good name with a "scandal."

So honestly, unless you have an mlb player on camera shooting up, all you're doing is making a political ploy to make it "appear" like you care about steroids.
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Originally posted by: SammySoc
Men of little minds always find solace in portraying themselves as victims.

Taken from espn.com

"Teams with the most current/former players named in the Mitchell report. Numbers only include players with teams which they've actually played a game for.

Breakdown of Teams Listed Team Total
Yankees 22
Orioles 18
Angels 16
Mets 15
Dodgers 15
Rangers 15 "

2 current Cardinals, no key players. We win, and we win with class.

Originally posted by: Kal-
2 current Cardinals, no key players. We win, and we win with class.

Pujols is being investigated. nt

Originally posted by: _Crunch

Originally posted by: Kal-
2 current Cardinals, no key players. We win, and we win with class.

Pujols is being investigated. nt

No, Pujols is not being investigated. He wasn't named a single time in the 300+ page document. nt gtfo df

They should just make pro sport players piss in a cup everyday.

Out of all the guys listed... which guy didn't get ANY help whatsoever by taking performance enhancing drugs?

Nook Logan!

Originally posted by: DieselFuel!
Nook Logan!

Nook Logan's Stats

Career batting average of .268


Yeah... he needs the steroids.