TeamWarfare Terms of Use

Can now be found at the bottom of each page.

http://www.teamwarfare.com/terms.asp

Sure is long...I read pretty much everything. I feel special now.

Sticky this for a while please.

EDIT: Or throw it into tone of the other sticky threads.
Post edited by Pillbug at 6/5/2006 10:35:05 AM

nice work TC.

there are some commas missing on the CAPS LOCK part (no guys, i didn't write that section)

very complete! nice!



---------------i like this part:
"You agree not to upload, post, email or otherwise transmit any material which (a) is defamatory, libellous, disruptive, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, harmful, abusive, harassing, obscene, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable; or that otherwise violates any law, (b) contains software viruses or any other computer codes, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy, or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment, (c) may infringe any person or entity's intellectual property rights (including patents, trademarks, trade secrets, copyright or other intellectual or other property right). By posting any material, you confirm, represent and warrant that you have the lawful right to distribute and reproduce such material."

Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
You agree not to repeatedly post the same or similar message ("flooding") or post excessively large or inappropriate images.

define excessively large.

Originally posted by: -EB- Bluedoctor

Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
You agree not to repeatedly post the same or similar message ("flooding") or post excessively large or inappropriate images.

define excessively large.

the boundaries of the surgical removal will depend on how big the cancer is once we find it"

Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
nice work TC.

there are some commas missing on the CAPS LOCK part (no guys, i didn't write that section)

That's my fault. I wrote using parts from various generic TOU's to fit our needs.

Originally posted by: -EB- Bluedoctor
define excessively large.

It's not specific for a reason- it's at our discretion what is and isn't excessive at that specific moment.

Just so everyone understands what this means-

By using our site you agree to the terms. Break the terms and you are giving permission for us to pursue the matter, be it criminal or civil.

Breaking our TOU also means you are breaking your ISP's TOU. So, if you're banned and we suspect you of circumventing the ban in any way we have your permission to contact your ISP's abuse department. By law they have to investigate and take appropriate action on their end. Using a proxy won't help. Your ISP knows what IP's you connect to at any given time.

Post edited by Psicotic1 at 6/5/2006 11:05:09 AM

P1,

i meant it, good work, guys.

as for the CAPS LOCK...i personally believe the whole internet ought to be written in CAPS LOCK....but that's just me!

By using our site you agree to the terms. Break the terms and you are giving permission for us to pursue the matter, be it criminal or civil.

So if I post something someone finds offensive (which is pretty much anything since people these days are so easily offended) I am going to get involved in a lawsuit?

Nothing in the Conditions shall exclude or limit our liability for death or personal injury resulting from our negligence or that of our servants, agents or employees.

I don't think anyone has ever died from a website... Talk about covering your ass lol.
Post edited by )-SiN-( Paranoia at 6/6/2006 2:19:48 AM

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the above PSA from Paranoia is brought to you and sponsored by TWL.

Originally posted by: {Dwi}Timex
Who isnt a Paranoia fan?!?!

Originally posted by: Jun_el
60% of the time... Paranoia is right every time.

If someone is highly addicted to a website and it goes down for a couple of days....he/she might die of stress?

Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
P1,

i meant it, good work, guys.

Thanx. Hopefully this will curb some of the BS that has been taking place because I have no problem at all contacting an ISP. I've done it before.

What most people don't realize is regardless of how trivial it may seem, most things that occur fall under the Electronic Privacy Act, which makes them federal crimes in the US and falls under prohibited acts for almost every ISP.

Does this mean TC can sexually have his way with questy now and it be legal?

Originally posted by: Psicotic1

Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
P1,

i meant it, good work, guys.

Thanx. Hopefully this will curb some of the BS that has been taking place because I have no problem at all contacting an ISP. I've done it before.

What most people don't realize is regardless of how trivial it may seem, most things that occur fall under the Electronic Privacy Act, which makes them federal crimes in the US and falls under prohibited acts for almost every ISP.

lol.. you may contact the IPS but what are they truly going to do ? I have seen this before and let me tell you, you may contact them all you want but what they are going to do is file it the same way you file your junk mail. Granted they may call the person and ask them what is going on and trust me they are going to believe the person that is paying them cash every month rather then someone calling and complaining about stupid crap over the internet.

Say what you will but you and I both know how true this really is, IMO this is just a ploy by TWL to try to scare someone into believing they can really have an impact on the community by stating they are going to persue crap hell that would be great if you could but hell you would be laughed right out of court and possibly a counter suit for your troubles.

So my suggestion would to be just tell these morons that are causing trouble that you are going to ban them and be done with it cause in all honesty there really isnt no more that you can do about it and the ISP is pretty much going to tell u the same thing.

The first question from any ISP is going to be how come you just didnt ban them from the site , you do have the power to do that ..lol

Anyway just my 2 cents

You evidently haven't been doing business on the internet long if you beleive that But ok.

There are ways around site bans, so unless you can take down someone's whole network you will have to deal witht he ISP to get repeat offenders shut down.

umm thats where you are wrong i have done and continue to do things over the internet and what you are spouting there is total BS!! the only thing that the ISP companies are going to get into is if there were any laws that have been broken and then the only thing they can do is warn someone for it and if it continues then the person will have to change ISP companies oooo not to hard to do..

But from what I have seen on here (in TWL) over the years is noone has really broken any laws.

There are no laws stating you cannot talk shit on the net or can anyone be accountable for anything YOU feel is not right, the law has to be broken and there is a very grey area when it comes to it anyway..

But you go right ahead and try to fill the kiddies heads up with the BS but for those of us who know better its a joke..lol

Hell I wish someone would take me to court for calling them a name or some BS like that ...lol

Originally posted by: ReverendStrife
There are ways around site bans

I wonder if there's a way for the site to do a check to see if its being connected through a proxy port, and block the port connection, or something like that?

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Originally posted by: ReverendStrife
There are ways around site bans, so unless you can take down someone's whole network you will have to deal witht he ISP to get repeat offenders shut down.

Yes there are ways around site bans no doubt, but you can always change ISP companies there are so many of them now a days its not even funny.



All TWL is doing is gearing up for summer trying to scare the kiddies.

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death

Originally posted by: ReverendStrife
There are ways around site bans, so unless you can take down someone's whole network you will have to deal witht he ISP to get repeat offenders shut down.

Yes there are ways around site bans no doubt, but you can always change ISP companies there are so many of them now a days its not even funny.



All TWL is doing is gearing up for summer trying to scare the kiddies.

I believe that was mostly added as you said to scare people. I mean, ICRED directly knows what I am talking about when BC_General Dark aka 2nd Lt. Dark has been site banned almost 8-12 times already and he keeps coming back.

They had to shut down the BFV forums for a week about in order to try and stop him because I figure as Buckwild said it, "I am tired of always closing the threads and moving them".

But any grown Adult knows what has been posted is pure speculation that the ISP will do anything and if they do drop you a call which I doubt, you can easily just change as it was mentioned above.

However, George Dubya Bush did pass that E-Threat bill and signed it into law about 2 months ago that you can be held for Federal Charges for your conduct on the NET for Stalking and E-harassment but here is the kicker and reason I love Dubya, as long as you "identify yourself with your real name" no charges can be pressed.

Don't you just love that?

Here is what I am referring to. They say "email, blogs, etc"

http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html

Sungod.. I would appreciate you not speaking for me as you are not aware of my reasonings for closing those forums.

I can also assure you, this isn't to scare anyone. We are simply tired of putting up with the things we do on a daily basis.

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Well icred this is not the way to handle it, because there are people that will call your bluff on this.

IMO this is not the way to handle this just for the simple fact that you (TWL) are trying to make threats about taking people to court on stupid yet childish matters which really has no bearing on the net rules as is.

Now what you have to understand is that you (TWL) is providing a place for people to have compitition type of game play and you have opened up forums in which you have decided to do for the public. Now you say its all on a volunteer basis so the way I look at it is if you are tired of the BS as you say you are then the best thing for you to do is step down and move away from your computer cause after all you said it is a VOLUNTEER based gaming forum.

You think that sitting here trying to scare people into behaving themselves is going to work you really have another thing coming. People in general are going to do what they are going to do whether you like it or not its just the way the net is, you of all people should know that.

And I know you are trying to use a scare tactic and it may work for some kids but then you have others that dont really give 2 shits because of the way they were raised.

But you mark my words here when people see what u r trying to do it is only going to get worse IMO cause there are people out there that are going to buck the system no matter what cause they know you cant do a damn thing about it.

Just my humble opinion.

Why was the BFV community locked out of the forums for about a week or more then with no reason posted upon the re-opening; and thus the ToU being posted on the same day of the re-opening as if to make a point to any and all BFV community in addition to the spammers who forced TWL to shut the General forums down for a partial night?

Teamwarfare is not just a community website. In order to keep the site running and maintained, a revenue has to be made. The advertisements which are displayed around Teamwarfare are proof of that. Any time that someone breaks the terms of use, then they are intereupting or hindering the business which sponsers Teamwarfare. Is this a scare tactic? Yes, to a point. You are getting warned in advanced that if you break any of the these terms of use, you will be subject to punishment. That is the only part which truely is a scare tactic. You have been warned and now that the scare is over, you know not to go against or break any of the rules, or be subject to bans/isp shutdowns/etc.

In Replying to ReverendStrife who is going to be on the "news team soon" why not re-open TWL contributions again? I'd be more than willing to donate. I mean, the only "ads" I have seen in awhile are the Kawasaki ones despite twl having its own "ads" which do not count, so if revenue is so "tight" as some people post; open it back up and solve the problem.

P.S.

Congrats ReverendStrife on your post.

Originally posted by: _SunGod
In Replying to ReverendStrife who is going to be on the "news team soon" why not re-open TWL contributions again? I'd be more than willing to donate. I mean, the only "ads" I have seen in awhile are the Kawasaki ones despite twl having its own "ads" which do not count, so if revenue is so "tight" as some people post; open it back up and solve the problem.

P.S.

Congrats ReverendStrife on your post.

Wheres the xfire screenshot? I liked my version better.

Well strife let me fill you in on something here ok, do you really think that people care about the sponsors ? I mean when TWL said they were going to be doing that If my memory serves me correctly you were one of the ones talking about how it was going to be nothing but a pain in the ass with extra advertising going on on here..lol

And sungod is correct the only sponsor they have is the one over there ---> nothing more nothing less and the only reason that TWL isnt taking anymore money from people is they would have to report a tax on it as in a sponsorship they do not as the sponsor is paying for to keep things up and running and is using it as a tax write off.

And the sponsor does not set the TOU for TWL, they do that as well as anyone should who runs a website. Hell we have a TOU on our site as well does it mean anything ? umm not really only thing is you can hold people responsible for posting inappropriate material on your site nothing more nothing less.

I mean we have been running websites for quite some time and we have run across hackers hacking sites and everything else and what is done about it ? Well I will tell you nothing because as I have stated before there is a grey area when it comes to the net and criminal actions.

So as far you you asking if its a scare tactic yes indeed it is there is nothing TWL can do to people unless major laws are broke as far as their site goes and then its ify at best when it does happen.

Sure you can go to ISP providers and complain but there is a thing called denyability and it is very hard to prove anything as far as the net goes. Sure you can take screen shots you can gather ip's and all that crap but do you know for a fact that it is the persons true IP ? I have seen wanna be hackers go through google ip's and univeristy ip's and all that crap so to prove something to actually take it to court would be very hard to do and as I have stated before you maybe looking at a counter suit for your troubles.

So with that I am done with this conversation just for the simple fact that I know some of the admins here will be trying to go on power trips as they always do when they do not like what you have to say even though it is true and to the letter.

I always find it funny when people want to argue about stuff like this. Slow day at work eh.
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Not arguing just stating facts to you !! But then again thats the way all you admins take things when someone is trying to have an adult conversation that you do not agree with.

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death
Not arguing just stating facts to you !! But then again thats the way all you admins liberals take things when someone is trying to have an adult conversation that you do not agree with.

funny how that change goes so smoothly
Post edited by -EB- Bluedoctor at 6/9/2006 7:08:41 PM

Ole Dr. Death pretty much hit the nail on the head..

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death
Well icred this is not the way to handle it, because there are people that will call your bluff on this.

IMO this is not the way to handle this just for the simple fact that you (TWL) are trying to make threats about taking people to court on stupid yet childish matters which really has no bearing on the net rules as is.

Now what you have to understand is that you (TWL) is providing a place for people to have compitition type of game play and you have opened up forums in which you have decided to do for the public. Now you say its all on a volunteer basis so the way I look at it is if you are tired of the BS as you say you are then the best thing for you to do is step down and move away from your computer cause after all you said it is a VOLUNTEER based gaming forum.

You think that sitting here trying to scare people into behaving themselves is going to work you really have another thing coming. People in general are going to do what they are going to do whether you like it or not its just the way the net is, you of all people should know that.

And I know you are trying to use a scare tactic and it may work for some kids but then you have others that dont really give 2 shits because of the way they were raised.

But you mark my words here when people see what u r trying to do it is only going to get worse IMO cause there are people out there that are going to buck the system no matter what cause they know you cant do a damn thing about it.

Just my humble opinion.

i had to pinch myself as i was reading ur post.

ur explanation is very similiar to how I feel about us invading Iraq to "do the war on terror".

Originally posted by: _SunGod
In Replying to ReverendStrife who is going to be on the "news team soon" why not re-open TWL contributions again? I'd be more than willing to donate. I mean, the only "ads" I have seen in awhile are the Kawasaki ones despite twl having its own "ads" which do not count, so if revenue is so "tight" as some people post; open it back up and solve the problem.

P.S.

Congrats ReverendStrife on your post.

i dont think you quite get yet. jesus.

the problem is that there are more idiots than money.

Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......

" -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will"???????

wouldnt it be a lot easier just to shut up and follow the rules?
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There's nothing like a little child molestation to bring people together and rise above the partisanship

Originally posted by: Pudd¿nheäd
ive been wanting coq for some time now, and im goin for it on sunday!

Originally posted by: Aria Giovanni.pZ
kok. i want kok. lots of kok.

let it rip Penguin...

it would be epic if SunGod gets banned, a thread locked and referred to QC, a thread about the new Terms of Use with harsher treatment for non-compliant people. A thread created by an uber-boss and then stickied cuz it is important.

THAT right THERE would be truly EPIC
Post edited by Aria Giovanni.pZ at 6/11/2006 10:50:15 PM

Originally posted by: [-NM-] -SS-
... It's without a doubt common sense to know that any business is out to make money, but in this case, their marketing targets little girls for a sense of unity -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will......

" -a sisterhood of little princesses if you will"???????

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death
So my suggestion would to be just tell these morons that are causing trouble

Ok.

You're causing trouble.

.... Is it stopped yet?

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death
and if it continues then the person will have to change ISP companies oooo not to hard to do..

The hard part is for children like you to somehow convince your parents to change the ISP.
Post edited by Irrenarzt at 6/12/2006 12:13:30 PM

^^ The evil monkey that lives in TWL

Originally posted by: Irrenarzt

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death
So my suggestion would to be just tell these morons that are causing trouble

Ok.

You're causing trouble.

.... Is it stopped yet?

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death
and if it continues then the person will have to change ISP companies oooo not to hard to do..

The hard part is for children like you to somehow convince your parents to change the ISP.

First of all im not causing problems I am stating facts and if you cannot deal with it then the best thing for you to do is just stfu and stop trying to start crap yourself.

And second of all I do not live with my parents as you might. i learned to pay my own bills along time ago and hell if they wanted to ban me from TWL then so be it i do not compete here anymore anyway so no harm done.

And third thing is if you cannot be an adult and have some type of input on the conversation at hand then you need to sit back and keep your trap shut cause it is very apparent that you are one of the kiddies that cannot have an adult conversation.

And last but not least this was my opinion nothing more nothing less and I have earned my right to input it here.
unlike you I have been here way too long to see TWL hurt themselves by making idle threats and thinking it is going to work.
Post edited by [GKM] Dr_Death at 6/12/2006 8:16:30 PM

Originally posted by: [GKM] Dr_Death

First of all im not causing problems I am stating facts and if you cannot deal with it then the best thing for you to do is just stfu and stop trying to start crap yourself.

And second of all I do not live with my parents as you might. i learned to pay my own bills along time ago and hell if they wanted to ban me from TWL then so be it i do not compete here anymore anyway so no harm done.

And third thing is if you cannot be an adult and have some type of input on the conversation at hand then you need to sit back and keep your trap shut cause it is very apparent that you are one of the kiddies that cannot have an adult conversation.

And last but not least this was my opinion nothing more nothing less and I have earned my right to input it here.
unlike you I have been here way too long to see TWL hurt themselves by making idle threats and thinking it is going to work.

^^ The evil monkey that lives in TWL

Wow fellas.... tone it down.... no need to start bashing eachother like crazy.



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