How Canada was remined about LEMONS:

Not such a bargain. One-owner sub in emergency callout

Steven Morris
Wednesday October 6, 2004
The Guardian

With due pomp and ceremony the Royal Navy handed over the submarine HMS Upholder to the Canadians at the weekend. The vessel was renamed HMCS Chicoutimi - after the city on the edge of Quebec's vast northern wilds - and the maple leaf flag was hoisted. Then after its final preparations, it began to chug towards Nova Scotia.
"You just cannot beat the value of having a submarine that belongs to you, operating in your waters," Rear Admiral Dan McNeil, commander of Canada's maritime force Atlantic, said. The vessel, one of four diesel submarines purchased from the Ministry of Defence, began the voyage on Monday but by yesterday afternoon, it did not look quite such good value. And it seemed to have little prospect of being in Canadian waters any time soon.

Chicoutimi was just 120 miles off the coast of Ireland when an electrical fire broke out, sending smoke pouring through the vessel.

The submarine surfaced and, a little like a new car owner forced to put in an angry call to the dealer who has sold him a faulty motor, the captain called for help from the Royal Navy. Perhaps unlike the archetypal used car dealer, the navy reacted with speed, dispatching a Sea King helicopter from Prestwick, an RAF Nimrod from Kinloss, the frigates HMS Montrose and Marlborough and the Royal Fleet Auxiliary Wave Knight. Tugs were also prepared which may have to tow the stricken vessel back into harbour.

The deal between the British and Canadian navies over the four submarines has been beset by difficulties. None of the three already delivered is in active service and the hand-over of Chicoutimi - the oldest of the four - was delayed because it was rusty and because it had been "cannibalised" to get the first three submarines seaworthy.

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Canada had seemed to be getting a good deal. The Victoria class submarines cost £900m to build but were on offer for a cut-price £244m after Britain decided to use nuclear submarines only. Chicoutimi was due to sail into Halifax harbour on October 18 and shortly afterwards begin patrolling Canada's east coast on surveillance work and to hunt for illegal fishing boats. Now its future is unclear.

The Canadian military was last night refusing to cast blame. A Canadian forces spokeswoman, Captain Holy Apostoliuk, said three sub mariners suffered smoke inhalation but were not badly hurt. However, fresh questions are likely to be asked about the deal, which has already attracted criticism in Canada.

The MoD and BAE Systems, which refurbished the submarines, were putting on a brave face. A spokesman for BAE Systems said it would work with the Canadian navy to make sure the vessel was made sound.

An MoD spokesman said the sub met "very high Royal Navy safety standards" when it was handed over. "We don't even know the cause of the fire yet," said a spokesman.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1320652,00.html
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Originally posted by: Coba|t

Originally posted by: Stryk
At me, because I want this administration to admit this was a military action and that taking him alive was a distant priority, I suddenly don't know the difference? Try reading.

And I want butterflies to launch out of my armpits on command.But you can't always get what you want.

yes, we needs subs, obviously we in great danger of American Olympic Commandos swimming the great expanse of Lake Erie and attempting to steal the secret to why Canadian bacon is so much superior to american bacon.

Lets not say buy canadian subs, made by canadians, in canadian cities, that'd be too smart. Were obviously not capable of it, we can make a space arm, but a tube of steel, NAW! eh!

F*CK politicans, F%ck them all.



Chico R.I.P October 11/2006

WELL, UNTIL WE SEE A SUBMARINE MANUFACTURING OPERATION IN BANFF, I SAY THERE IS HOPE...

SO HANG IN THERE!
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Originally posted by: Coba|t

Originally posted by: Stryk
At me, because I want this administration to admit this was a military action and that taking him alive was a distant priority, I suddenly don't know the difference? Try reading.

And I want butterflies to launch out of my armpits on command.But you can't always get what you want.

We in Canada could build a sub just dont let the Federal goverment have anything to do with it.Except pay for it.
I agree with PROFET.....F*CK politicans, F%ck them all.
Our goverment sucks

sTUPID part is, we have all these fisherman, and hardworking people out east, WHO now are actually building new canadian destroyers or frigates, for OUR navy. These ships are all stocked with up to date equipment, AEGIS and all that stuff.

f^cK the politicians, F##K them all with an acorn. Im so SICK of paying taxes for these F&&King morons to blow.

I dont know how anybody can favor any politician, there all corrupt stupid whores of a goat's ass end.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/10/05/656913-cp.html

Yes its another waste by our wastefull government. Somebody eles had to die to prove it. Sea king anybody?

i wanted to see terminator bitching about his own country here....guess not, huh?
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Originally posted by: Coba|t

Originally posted by: Stryk
At me, because I want this administration to admit this was a military action and that taking him alive was a distant priority, I suddenly don't know the difference? Try reading.

And I want butterflies to launch out of my armpits on command.But you can't always get what you want.

I can see it now – headlines read – Canadian sub gets its first kill

Paul Martin – what a tribute – the sailor was saving his country –

FROM WHAT – embarrassment

These subs are crap – that’s why the brits sold them. How many fires are needed - how many deaths are needed before something is done.

I hope the people in Ottawa that made the decision to purchase these pces of chit are happy with themselves – maybe they can go hug there family – we sure know the Lt saunders will not be able to that anymore…

Originally posted by: CROM
I can see it now – headlines read – Canadian sub gets its first kill

Paul Martin – what a tribute – the sailor was saving his country –

FROM WHAT – embarrassment

These subs are crap – that’s why the brits sold them. How many fires are needed - how many deaths are needed before something is done.

I hope the people in Ottawa that made the decision to purchase these pces of chit are happy with themselves – maybe they can go hug there family – we sure know the Lt saunders will not be able to that anymore…

Highly unlikly that is what the headline did say.
Martin is not totally responsible for this but he did play a part.

RIP Lt Saunders -- I pray for you, your wife and you children who will never know you.

whenever I think of Terminator, I picture him ageless, with the same spectacular maturity and intellect.
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Originally posted by: Coba|t

Originally posted by: Stryk
At me, because I want this administration to admit this was a military action and that taking him alive was a distant priority, I suddenly don't know the difference? Try reading.

And I want butterflies to launch out of my armpits on command.But you can't always get what you want.

this is an actual picture of two working canadian submarines in a rare capture during top secret maneuvers on the rarely seen 'dual sardine attack go maple go' formation



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The right is more virtuous than the left. They have twice as many virtues because they have double the standards.

i just took a 3 hour nap. im getting good at this.
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Originally posted by: Coba|t

Originally posted by: Stryk
At me, because I want this administration to admit this was a military action and that taking him alive was a distant priority, I suddenly don't know the difference? Try reading.

And I want butterflies to launch out of my armpits on command.But you can't always get what you want.

is anyone else aroused?

What's terminator's new name?

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Didn't termy die from canadian aids?

Originally posted by: [-NM-] Pudd¿nheäd
this is an actual picture of two working canadian submarines in a rare capture during top secret maneuvers on the rarely seen 'dual sardine attack go maple go' formation

submarine termie, on the left
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The right is more virtuous than the left. They have twice as many virtues because they have double the standards.

i thought terminator was perma banned? or maybe i'm just thinking of sex3r.

Well we got a good deal.

The Royal Navy today launched one of the worsds advanced attack sumbarine HMS Astute.

Originally posted by: Times

HMS Astute is a submarine like no other. She can glide around the globe without once surfacing or refuelling; she could detect the QE2 an ocean away, and she whispers through the water leaving no more sonar trace than a large dolphin. She is in effect an underwater military hotel – with big guns.

She was launched yesterday at a ceremony in the BAE Systems shipyard at Barrow-in-Furness. Instead of champagne, the submarine was inaugurated with a bottle of home-brewed beer (a tradition in Barrow) crushed on her underside by a sort of mechanised ironing board. She was named by the Duchess of Cornwall before rolling slowly into the sea at a stately metre a minute.

The Astute – 318ft (97 metres) of reinforced steel and lethal weaponry – is the first of a new species of nuclear-powered submarine. In theory, she could remain submerged indefinitely. She can make her own oxygen and drinking water from surrounding sea water, and the only factors that could force her to the surface are hunger, the sanity of the crew or a successful enemy attack.

She is the first of four 7,800-tonne Astute Class submarines in production at Barrow, and will carry more torpedoes and Tomahawk cruise missiles than any before her. The pressurised water nuclear reactor that powers her will last for the whole 25-year lifespan.

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Don't worry Canada you can have her in 25 years.

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this is so very ofn... 3 years old :/ you guys seriously didn't hear about this? lol, was all over our news... the best part about the Canadian military... we could buy the better stuff for lower prices from our own factories, but decide to buy used for more $$$ from other countries, then sell what we make to other countries (like the US and Britan...) God I hate how Canada runs our military.

Fool,

look at the original post's date.



FOOL!
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Originally posted by: Coba|t

Originally posted by: Stryk
At me, because I want this administration to admit this was a military action and that taking him alive was a distant priority, I suddenly don't know the difference? Try reading.

And I want butterflies to launch out of my armpits on command.But you can't always get what you want.

well i thought someone just posted it, not revived it... who would revive this wow...