M16 Is glitched

Here is factual evidence showing how the M16 is a glitched weapon and should be banned from competitive play immediately. http://symthic.com/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=2683&pageNo=1
It has no increased spread while under suppression! This is an unfair advantage over players not using the M16, especially since the suppression perk is not banned from TWL (LOL). Please address this quickly! This will NOT be fixed in tomorrow's patch either.

since the suppression perk is not banned from TWL (LOL)

I assumed it was.

I completely agree with ZeroT. The M16 in its glitched state has no place in comp with the clear advantage it has. The rest of the weapons are far inferior since the M16 is already better even without this glitch. Please ban it.

We are talking about it in the admin forums. Please still voice your support for or against a ban so we can get a full picture of the communities wishes.

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Originally posted by: ZeroT
suppression perk is not banned from TWL (LOL). Please address this quickly!

I thought suppression perk was banned under TWL rules.

Playing without suppression is the way the game should be played anyways, and since 99% of League players use the M16A3 leave it in imo.

However it's extremely important that more peeps need to weigh in before a decision can be made. Since the M16 is so widely used this should be a very carefully & deliberately thought out because it will affect a great many peeps.

Also I'm not sure atm what CGL is doing but IMO the rule-sets should be made as uniform as possible in regards to the M16.
Winning is not everything, but the effort to win is

A) Suppression perk should be banned, I only found this out a few ladder matches ago playing DFL.

B) This is a huge, unfortunate miss on Dice's part. I'm going to have to agree that it needs to be banned until fixed. Essentially everyone would have to play with that gun and what fun is that?

Love the slug hate. Too bad everyone that hates on it is too bad to use it.

Anyhow, ban the m16a3 if it's not going to be affected by suppression.

That is the better question, if suppression is banned would the M16A3 still need to be banned?

Which should be banned?

Just ban the M16A3?

Just ban suppression?

Ban both suppression and M16A3?
SixShotSean

Just ban suppression, keep the A3.

BTW I don't even use the A3 anymore and I think it should stay.

thought sup perk was already banned? My team only uses cover, never sup for the past months. ammo, frag, covr, sprint

I also thought Suppression perk was banned. We'll def be using it from now on unless you ban it, which I think you should.

I think it's good that the M16 doesn't have suppression. It increases the skill gap because now it's more about who has better aim, rather then whether or not the other guy saw you first.

Is there any concrete evidence that the M16 is glitched or are people just speculating?

Read the original post. Symthic post is legit, there is no modification to spread while under suppression for the M16 only. This is not intentional, this is an error. If you don't ban it then everyone will just have to use it...and thats boring.

Suppresion perk should have been banned long ago.
Post edited by chuckinbeast at 9/6/2012 9:14:52 AM

My Team has never used it, but since it isn't already banned, suppression perk needs to be insta-banned.


Winning is not everything, but the effort to win is

I was under the impression suppression was banned too... it should be banned. That's a no brainer.

You guys did good suppressing suppression by yourselves, but consider it officially suppressed.

Suppression perk, now banned.

Will that alleviate the need to ban the M16 as well, or does that still need to happen?

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Im glad you addressed the suppression perk issue, but beyond that overall suppression is still a big issue and has been since the April patch. With this in mind I think that the M16's advantage in these still frequent situations is an unfair advantage and still needs to be addressed.

Note that the bug is with both M16 variants even though no one ever uses the crappy A4.

Good job TWL for quickly fixing the ban on suppression perk, thanks.

As for the M16 issue, supposedly DICE is aware of the issue but I'm willing to bet it doesn't get addressed until the next patch/DLC. In the interim, I don't see any other solution other than the ban it for the time being. It is missing a fundamental mechanic that every other gun has, its just not right.

Okay, just give a quick go/no-go on banning the M16A3 and A4.

Over 50% go we'll temp ban it until it's patched.

Thanks in advanced, gents.

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Leave it.

Im for the temp ban

Temp ban until fixed.

don't care

leave it

2 quick points:

1. If banned the number of peeps who have to 'adjust' by changing weapons will outnumber those who don't by 4-1. Not banning the M16 will affect way less people than if it is banned.

2. Is this a free 'backdoor gift' from Dice for those who compete? Everyone competing has been complaining about suppression since it was first 'upped' 2 patches ago. Now we have a way to play without suppression.

Keep the M16 in comp as is.
Winning is not everything, but the effort to win is

leave it in. m416 w/ premium camo #2 is what the cool kids use now anyway and everybody knows it. Don't you guys want to be cool?
Post edited by Naiima at 9/8/2012 6:40:14 AM

So this means M416 and the AEK-971 ftw?

Great a bunch of people chiming in who aren't even actively playing competition. That makes sense.

Keep it in. How are we going to prove that the other team is running suppression ? You really cant so is this just a honor system kinda "ban".
Post edited by SCE_The Fuzz at 9/8/2012 1:49:31 PM

When it shows who killed you it also shows their perks. A screenshot of someone running Suppression perk is enough for an automatic forfeit of round.

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Originally posted by: GreenEyed=VX9=
When it shows who killed you it also shows their perks. A screenshot of someone running Suppression perk is enough for an automatic forfeit of round.

Unless I am missing something, I do not see a person's perks on the "Killed by" screen.

Sorry, you're right. Last issue we had with this we actually had the team in violation's video.

The BL page for a player does show loadout as well as perks.

Video evidence will be needed then. It's pretty obvious when they are, I think even more so when your team is running squad cover.

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ban, it. As much as i hate suppression ban m16 or make it the only gun allowed lol

either ban the m16 or let be the only weapon allowed. that gun has a unfair advantage. also please twl admins only take the input of PEOPLE CURRENTLY IN A TEAM AND COMPETING. having people who do not compete chime in is not right...

ban the m16 and ban suppression.

and as for evidence ALL TEAM MEMBERS should be recording their matches.
Post edited by IIRaGeII at 9/17/2012 10:18:45 AM

dont ban it
Post edited by Fusion277 at 9/18/2012 4:46:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yjpzgmbjVg :O

Nice find Reck. Ninja patched? I definitely felt suppressed while using M16A3 two days ago.....