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Horrible lag on all BF3 servers

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seems to be horrible lag on every server I try to join today, many many people also complaining about the lag during games. Does anyone have a clue what is going on?

EA getting DDOS?

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/#!/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654489874657487/


apparently they are aware and working on it
https://twitter.com/Battlefield/with_replies
Post edited by BadLizzard at 8/3/2012 5:31:48 PM
It is EA getting attacked by UAC3 making UAC3 mandatory on all BF3 servers.

uac3 epic fail
Can we get a ban for Larry Laser and MoJo mo?

Every damn thread is bombarded by these to idiots bad mouthing UAC.
Sorry to say but uac3 is old and doesn't even take screenshots unles they are black.so i would say its a bust.
OWNED
Post edited by MOJO|ERASER at 8/3/2012 10:00:18 PM
Originally posted by: Wonkss
Sorry to say but uac3 is old and doesn't even take screenshots unles they are black.so i would say its a bust.


holy shit........

"doesn't even take screenshots unles they are black"

holy shit.........
Manually updated PB and it fixed the lag on my end.

GreenEyed|TWL-AC
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My PB set-up tool says my pb is up to date

ps. I have sent 2 requests for access to the leadership forums, but don't get any replies. Who should I try and contact instead of madchild
Post edited by BadLizzard at 8/4/2012 3:04:17 AM
Send to:

SixShotSean@TeamWarfare.com
Chowder@TeamWarfare.com

GreenEyed|TWL-AC
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Why they gotta be black?

UAC takes clean, clear SS's if you were to play in windowed mode.
Post edited by SouCo at 8/4/2012 5:21:09 PM





Originally posted by: SouCo
Why they gotta be black?

UAC takes clean, clear SS's if you were to play in windowed mode.


Why should we be forced to play in window mode?

I overclock my gpu and in window mode it does not use the oc settings it uses the regular default ones is one reason i dont play window mode.
You don't have to play windowed mode. The black screenshots in full screen have always been like that, and we've had this discussion in several threads. There is more to UAC than just screenshots.

Hopefully UAC4 will come online sooner rather than later, but that's up to them.

GreenEyed|TWL-AC
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Should just quote it, make it huge text and sticky it.
Originally posted by: XShades
Can we get a ban for Larry Laser and MoJo mo?

Every damn thread is bombarded by these to idiots bad mouthing UAC.


i remember when everyone called you lasersights

gg
UAC3 is player side, it will not effect anything going on with true server lag/issues. UAC3 doesn't support DX11 hence why we get Black SS. We don't force players to play in windowed mode. And for the 100th time we get WAY MORE than just SS from UAC. We get a lot of tools that help us track and ban cheaters.

Hopefully EA gets things fixed. As posted above EA is working on it. Also try the PB Update as Green says it helped him.
Post edited by SixShotSean at 8/6/2012 3:51:15 PM

SixShotSean
Yeah... Well back then I didn't know they guy so I was "MEH who's that?"

Now though.... ultimate insult !

PS.

I think the majority of slack jaws competing in TWL think that anticheat is 100% screen shot driven. They have this mental image of hundreds of low paid workers pawing through hundreds of thousands of screenshots looking for bounding boxes.
Screenshots are not and HAVE NEVER BEEN the primary way to catch a cheat, they are a nice to have visual confirmation. No anti cheat in the history of gaming has ever or will ever use screenshots as a primary method of catching cheats. I can't say it any simpler..... STFU about SS's FFS!
Post edited by XShades at 8/7/2012 5:01:42 PM
Originally posted by: XShades
They have this mental image of hundreds of no pay workers pawing through hundreds of thousands of screenshots looking for bounding boxes.


Fixed that for ya.

GreenEyed|TWL-AC
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This is how look at it.

Bad players in twl now have an excuse to use towards others who they suspect cheating by using the "black screenshot" as an argument.

In bf2, they still called hacks on players even if there was br running and yet people still wouldn't believe it.


You want to fix hacking permanently?

Here's how.

Nvidia and AMD need to build secure flash storage into their graphics cards, 100MB should be enough. The cards should copy the screen to that memory every now and again (Randomly).

Nvidia and AMD would host a website called something like "Verified Gaming Screenshots". Every gamer could register their card with the game they are currently playing. You would get a 18 digit unique code with your card.

So for BF3 I would buy one of these cards and enter the 18 digit code in my battlelog. Battlelog would pull my secure screenshots from the AMD or Nvidia site and display them next to my last game. Maybe 10 SS's max.

The key is that the screenshots are taken by hardware routines. These cannot be bypassed or detected by hacking software. Right now hacks detect when PB is about to take a screenshot and remove the HUD so it grabs a clean one. When its done in hardware they will have no idea when its taking a SS.

This would royally screw hacking. Sure aim bots would still exist but there are other ways to catch that shit. Who the hell is going to pay 20 bucks a month for a shitty aim bot? The industry would fail financially.


Post edited by XShades at 8/8/2012 12:54:24 PM
Originally posted by: XShades
You want to fix hacking permanently?

Here's how.

Nvidia and AMD need to build secure flash storage into their graphics cards, 100MB should be enough. The cards should copy the screen to that memory every now and again (Randomly).

Nvidia and AMD would host a website called something like "Verified Gaming Screenshots". Every gamer could register their card with the game they are currently playing. You would get a 18 digit unique code with your card.

So for BF3 I would buy one of these cards and enter the 18 digit code in my battlelog. Battlelog would pull my secure screenshots from the AMD or Nvidia site and display them next to my last game. Maybe 10 SS's max.

The key is that the screenshots are taken by hardware routines. These cannot be bypassed or detected by hacking software. Right now hacks detect when PB is about to take a screenshot and remove the HUD so it grabs a clean one. When its done in hardware they will have no idea when its taking a SS.

This would royally screw hacking. Sure aim bots would still exist but there are other ways to catch that shit. Who the hell is going to pay 20 bucks a month for a shitty aim bot? The industry would fail financially.



so one post you say ss arent everything and in another you say hardware should take them? so which is it ss arent everything or they are?
Screenshots as they stand right now are worthless. Do a little research and you will find that pretty much 100% of paid for hacks bypass punkbuster and VAC SS's.

Private anti cheats like UAC work by flying under the radar. The hack developers create there hacks to bypass the most popular anti cheats. There is no money in bypassing UAC for a small amount of smacktards that want to cheat in competitive play. UAC can detect hacks via hash finger prints in the same fashion as an anti virus. PB and VAC try to do this but the hack dev's are watching every step they make and it turns into a game of whack a mole. As soon as PB updates its definitions to catch a paid for hack they update their hack to break the fingerprint and bypass the detection.

This is how its been for around 10 years now. Every now and again PB will make a change and the hack dev's will miss it for an hour or so. Anyone using the hack at that time gets banned.

So if you want to attack hacking at the root move detection to hardware. By putting screen grabs in hardware you remove hacks from being able to bypass SS's. This makes screen shots useful again and if the industry got behind it it would kill hacking dead.

Yes it would be nice if UAC had screenshots working, but honestly its not even needed. UAC will find your hack via traditional methods and the SS is a nice to have ultimately not necessary.

TL;DR - Screenshots are useless when they can be bypassed. Hardware screenshots can't be bypassed so they are useful.
Post edited by XShades at 8/13/2012 2:38:14 PM
He is saying that if your Hardware took the SS it would be extremely difficult to bypass. He is explaining how PC gaming could be cleaned up and policed for cheating with a hardware encoded SS.

He didn't change his stance. SS are not everything.
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