AACDC on vista 64bit

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TWL Member

2008-03-17 04:20

hello TWL League
i must say that i am disappointed about the way this issue has been treated, all of the players that are using Vista 64bit including me need too know when this problem is going too be fix/solved.?????
and with that i mean a concrete date.
all of you knew that a new operative system was on the way and that was on the end of 2006 now it is 2008.
the only thing that i am trying too say here is that is not fair too make us use a program that is not compatibel with the new operativ system on the marked::

plz dont shoot me i am just frustrated over not been able too play with my clan m8´s

Killerbee-={NSF}=-

TWL Member

2008-03-17 05:33

I agree with you there... We have 2 players who is eliminated from playing TWL. Almost no teams agree to play without CDC.

I hope this issue will be solved very soon
Post edited by Killerbee-={NSF}=- at 3/17/2008 5:34:09 AM

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-CK-Elfiero

TWL Member

2008-03-17 13:24

CDC not working on vista64????? FFS, that made my day... Just done a fresh install of the OS, and now this. We have a match tongight and ofcourse did i rely on CDC to work on ALL OS........ now this. :'''(

-CK-Elfiero

TWL Member

2008-03-17 15:51

OK... The old version seem to work ok till it updates. It is here the horror begins. I had to disable administrator privs to get the defuser to Save the username and autoload...

Gigolo-Joe

TWL Member

2008-03-17 19:32

i already tried that but it wont let you open it, if it was reverted to the old one it would work

SCE_Spidey74

TWL Member

2008-03-18 01:08

might want too look here http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/showthread.asp?forumid=54&threadid=392643

does anyone read before posting ???? BTW any news Hydra on you getting a fix to this problem?
Post edited by SCE_Spidey74 at 3/18/2008 1:11:02 AM

Russd3

TeamWarfare VetRetired Sr. StaffTWL Contributor

2008-03-19 22:02

Originally posted by: [RIP]Hydra
Someone from the community has set me up with a legal copy of Vista-64 Business. I'm still working on a resolution. Unfortunately, this particular problem is a bit more complicated than the XP-64 issue I had way back.

-=[BoC]=-SantaCruz

TWL Member

2008-03-31 14:01

the way TWL has handle this is disappointing..

i have no more to say! this works against it self.

true.ku

TWL Member

2008-04-02 21:23

has err AACDC & Vista 64x Be fixed yet?? or even close..

-=[BoC]=-SantaCruz

TWL Member

2008-04-03 07:16

Originally posted by: Kujo1uk
has err AACDC & Vista 64x Be fixed yet?? or even close..

NO, NO and more NO! sorry!

!&()%#/&="(#%"

-CK-Lopern

TWL Member

2008-04-04 17:31

Originally posted by: Russd3
Originally posted by: [RIP]Hydra
Someone from the community has set me up with a legal copy of Vista-64 Business. I'm still working on a resolution. Unfortunately, this particular problem is a bit more complicated than the XP-64 issue I had way back.

i have read this topic allready, but still it dosent tell me when the issue will be fixed!! i will say this again We need too know.... When or if you have a backup plan if this dosent work !!!!!

GodFather[+]

TWL Member

2008-04-07 02:16

im pretty sure Vista 64bit users like me and others have had this problem for a while...but my only questions is how much longer until we can participate in matches?

Russd3

TeamWarfare VetRetired Sr. StaffTWL Contributor

2008-04-07 05:19

For the same reasons the America's Army game developers do not give release dates for patches we can not give a completion date for the fix of 64 bit problem.

On a more positive note I do believe that the primary problem has been identified and a fix is being worked on. Unfortunately I can not comment beyond that.

Things like this in the coding world take time unfortunately (especially when there is only one person doing the coding work). We are all volunteers here and that is no different for Hydra. All the work he does is in his spare time so it might take a little longer than people would hope. Hang on a little longer and hopefully we will have something for you all sooner rather than later.

Post edited by Russd3 at 4/7/2008 5:31:19 AM

-=[BoC]=-SantaCruz

TWL Member

2008-04-07 07:12

I understand that this takes time but vista x64 har been on the market for 1,5 years soon... and we who have this os cant play here in twl..

there should be a way arround for vista x64 users..

Russd3

TeamWarfare VetRetired Sr. StaffTWL Contributor

2008-04-07 07:35

Originally posted by: -=[BoC]=-SantaCruz
I understand that this takes time but vista x64 har been on the market for 1,5 years soon... and we who have this os cant play here in twl..

there should be a way arround for vista x64 users..

The only way around it is to not use CDC. Since that could potentially give hackers easier access that is not going to happen. The options are to inconvience the handful of people on 64 or the entire TWL AA community. I am not denying that it sucks but that is the reality of the situation.

Your other option is to ask the other team if they will allow you to play without CDC.

^B-Legit

TeamWarfare Vet

2008-04-08 16:19

seems like whoever is the AACDC coder for you guys is a bit LAZY, just seems like it tho!!! vista 64bit HAS BEEN IN MARKET AND USE BY YOUR COMMUNITY FOR SOME TIME NOW, so plz do not just ignore them when they tell you how long they have been waiting patiently, do not remind them of this "reality" they know the reality of the situation it is currently being brought onto them......

GodFather[+]

TWL Member

2008-04-08 20:58

this is completely un acceptable, with background checks, there should be another way legit vista 64 using AA players should be allowed to play even without the other clans consent,

=Highflyr=

Quality Control StaffEurope

2008-04-08 22:01

Unfortunately the small minority of people would see it as a chance to cheat the system, I know what your saying Godfather but theres a good reason we use cdc. It was discussed but the benefit of getting everyone back into twl i.e the 64 bit users was outweighed by the amount of issues that it could cause by previous banned players

[GameOver]LEgiONary

TWL Member

2008-04-10 04:24

Originally posted by: Russd3
For the same reasons the America's Army game developers do not give release dates for patches we can not give a completion date for the fix of 64 bit problem.

On a more positive note I do believe that the primary problem has been identified and a fix is being worked on. Unfortunately I can not comment beyond that.

Things like this in the coding world take time unfortunately (especially when there is only one person doing the coding work). We are all volunteers here and that is no different for Hydra. All the work he does is in his spare time so it might take a little longer than people would hope. Hang on a little longer and hopefully we will have something for you all sooner rather than later.

We have ONE player on an 64-bit Vista system [GameOver]Razor. For him to be able to participate in TWL I have proposed for our team to offer our upcomming opponents to be allowed having ONE player NOT connected trough CDC system.

A Gentleman agreement between the teams that should be established early in the matchpreparation. This would be a temporary solution awaiting the CDC system running on all 64.

Could information about 64-bit players be tagged in the team rooster, or is it possible too administer this in some other way?

This post is made striktly too honor the tradition of FAIRPLAY and SPORTSMANSHIP, nothing else!
Post edited by [GameOver]LEgiONary at 4/10/2008 4:33:21 AM

Russd3

TeamWarfare VetRetired Sr. StaffTWL Contributor

2008-04-10 06:06

There is no rule against asking a team to let your player play without CDC but they also have the right to decline the request. With that said it does not hurt to try.

=2.5=yucate=

TWL Member

2008-04-10 12:59

i have follwoed this issue for some time now and read almost all the threads concerning it ! Trully i believe that this aint being treated objectivly and kinda supportive at all from TWL / ppl who are organizing it. I am a 64 vista user and i do know far more than just a handfull gamer on 64 .Most of the comments made by some are so lame and not constructive. At least TWL could offer a RULE change for 64 Vista or make up some suggestions to resolve this asap if they do not have enuff resources to make CDC workin !! Its a question of flexibility to adapt your software to the daily updates and new stuff coming out.
Post edited by =2.5=yucate= at 4/10/2008 1:01:25 PM

{Spray}

TeamWarfare VetTWL Retired Staff

2008-04-15 23:35

Just a thought, I was running 64-bit and got tried of the contast updates for other programs not made for 64-bit. Since there is no active difference, because there are very few programs that uses the potential of 64-bit. I re-formatted and went back to 32-bit. Plus it also allows the chance to play other games, not made or tested for 64-bit systems. Just my thoughts.

sniper312

TWL Member

2008-04-16 15:10

From -{BDB}-Spray: "Plus it also allows the chance to play other games, not made or tested for 64-bit systems."

What are these "other games" you speak of? I have NEVER had ANY problems with other games.

When I buy a new computer with a 64 bit OS, I buy it to play new games and games that are constantly being updated, not Pong and PacMan.

I would think that an organization would want to make their users happy and actually support the products they distribute. Different distributions of Vista x64 have been out for over 2 years (betas, RCs, etc.). I would think that would be enough time to develop a solution that is obviously hurting more than just a handful of people...

Just my opinion...

[RIP]Hydra

AA CDS Developer

2008-04-16 21:16

Originally posted by: sniper312

Different distributions of Vista x64 have been out for over 2 years (betas, RCs, etc.)

I have had Vista64 for about 2 months now, and not 2 yrs.

I know how to fix the issue.

However, it's a CDC UID generation issue, which as most people know, is how CDS bans you. The fix would be a global fix, meaning, I still need to find a way to ensure that current bans aren't negated. I need the old and the new methods to play nice together.

That being said, I have had a chain of events happen in the last half year that have required the majority of my time. I will release a fix as soon as I possibly can.

[BSG]Dr@gon

TWL Member

2008-04-22 04:12

I can fully understand that you have a life besides CDC.
I hope you find the time soon to work on this fix.

My clan just joined TWL and already got stuck on this issue
Lets hope our opponents like to play without cdc.

lets pray for a fast fix.

-=[BoC]=-SantaCruz

TWL Member

2008-04-22 13:43

is it possibil to tell us when you hope to have this ready? are we looking at 1 month or 1 year or more?

=2.5=yucate=

TWL Member

2008-04-23 11:47

Originally posted by: [RIP]Hydra
Originally posted by: sniper312

Different distributions of Vista x64 have been out for over 2 years (betas, RCs, etc.)

I have had Vista64 for about 2 months now, and not 2 yrs.

I know how to fix the issue.

However, it's a CDC UID generation issue, which as most people know, is how CDS bans you. The fix would be a global fix, meaning, I still need to find a way to ensure that current bans aren't negated. I need the old and the new methods to play nice together.

That being said, I have had a chain of events happen in the last half year that have required the majority of my time. I will release a fix as soon as I possibly can.

this is the first post i read which gives us all in here somehow a hopefull answer. Sry that we are nerving ya but we are all just addicted to the game. we have phojo also working on it if it helps anyway maybe u can PM him !! However thnaks a lot from all of us for working this issue out .

[T-DK]MR.X^V

TWL Member

2008-04-26 06:32

Yo all.

Anyone know other ladder/leagues that includes AA ??

My patience is over now. We [T-DK] now have 4 members using vista 64 bit, and 3 more to come in the next few days.

OR.

Why dont TWL get the point, and say " okay, until we know how to fix this problem, all matches is played without CDC " ???

The are a lot of players worldwide that have this problem, so deal with it and take action.

MOVE OUT...HOOAH

-CK-Lopern

TWL Member

2008-04-29 06:07

Originally posted by: [RIP]Hydra
I have had Vista64 for about 2 months now, and not 2 yrs.

This is exactly what i and other players are trying too say here.. this OS has been out for nearly 2 years now and your guys are just now trying too fix this issue ????
that is not good at all!!!!!

Originally posted by: [RIP]Hydra
I know how to fix the issue.

if you know how too fix this why dont you fix this then???

but anyway you guys still havent given us a date of when you expect too be ready!!!!!!

-=[BoC]=-Ahriman

TWL Member

2008-04-29 14:51

Again I didn't get to play a match due to not having CDC.
Eighter TWL has to change the rules until there is a fix for the problem, or all members playing in the league should try to be understanding and accept playing matches using demorec as a solution while we wait. I would like to think that all participants in the league play honourably and by the rules, so I don't see the problem in having "a gentleman's agreement". That way everyone wanting to play will have that opportunity. And many clans won't have to miss playing with some off their better players, or miss matches because they can't get enough players without Vista64 to play their matches.

-=[BoC]=-SantaCruz

TWL Member

2008-04-30 05:53

they wee played yesterday sad that they got penelty points fater leting other play with out cdc, is this true?

GodFather[+]

TWL Member

2008-04-30 20:31

during one of our matches, the other clan said "now we know why u guys didnt want to use CDC" they forfietted and left. Cant we just demorec the match?

.K!$$.JWillard

TWL Member

2008-05-02 02:52

Worked on a members Vista 64 bit system tonight trying to get it to run. Changed up the UAC settings and modified the permissions for the \AA CDC Cheat folder allowing the User full control. Got the 'must be run by Admin' message so it was run from the \AA CDC folder as Admin. Loaded to the AACDC 7 point dialog box. Had all the info from the AACDC.ini file (pre-configured).

Put one of our server IP's in and fired it off at the primary server.

Got the 'hacker' (text) dialog box. Cleared it and continued. CDC came back with a 'newer version' message, so what the heck, I bite; downloaded and installed the new version.

Rebooted and now am back to the old 'run as administrator' message upon executing the AACDC.exe 'as' the Admin.

So are you guys like 100% sure this isn't a permissions issue related to 'who has rights' to call 'ArmyOps.exe' from the AACDC sub-routine?

JWillard
Keep It Simple Stupid

(CSC)Treglis

TWL Member

2008-05-02 15:01

My patience is over to. It was sometimes during the january, when I have wrote Hydra and offer him some help, because I owned 64bit Vista. He replyed me that he already has one copy of it. Now it is 3 months from that time and still no solution? And what is worse, TWL is unable head for players to make some special rule for them. Im very upset about all this.

SCE_Spidey74

TWL Member

2008-05-11 01:08

not that anyone here seems too care or realize but your competition already has and has had vista support for there anti cheat programs for sometime now .... so i dont see whats the problem .... i mean its been 4 months since hydra got vista ... still no fix ... its been over a year vista has been out still no fix ... what gives? we like twl where is the support ???

Russd3

TeamWarfare VetRetired Sr. StaffTWL Contributor

2008-05-11 01:47

Originally posted by: SCE_Spidey74
not that anyone here seems too care or realize but your competition already has and has had vista support for there anti cheat programs for sometime now .... so i dont see whats the problem .... i mean its been 4 months since hydra got vista ... still no fix ... its been over a year vista has been out still no fix ... what gives? we like twl where is the support ???

Unfortunately Hydra is the only one with the source code to CDC and thus is the only one able to fix it. Making rules to allow people to play without CDC is unfortunately a no go as well because you can't verify what os people are running. If we exempt 64 bit players what is stopping someone from just saying they have it so they can get out of using CDC. It sucks and I am just as frustrated as everyone else... I would not be surprised though if the fix is not too far away (though that is purely speculation on my part)
Post edited by Russd3 at 5/11/2008 1:48:34 AM

-=[BoC]=-SantaCruz

TWL Member

2008-05-12 16:34

mabye better comunications betwin hydra, twl and out to the players on what is happening, give us updates and try to say when its ready, we will take it more easy and wait?

[BSG]Dr@gon

TWL Member

2008-05-16 03:01

[quote="Russd3]Unfortunately Hydra is the only one with the source code to CDC and thus is the only one able to fix it. Making rules to allow people to play without CDC is unfortunately a no go as well because you can't verify what os people are running. If we exempt 64 bit players what is stopping someone from just saying they have it so they can get out of using CDC. It sucks and I am just as frustrated as everyone else... I would not be surprised though if the fix is not too far away (though that is purely speculation on my part)

sorry to say this but this is the lazy way out.

servers are protected with punkbuster and the latest banlist scripts , the only thing you have to ad to your rules is that players must send in there demorec's until the fix for cdc is there.

this is just a discrimination to the people with vista64.
if you guys take this league serious then you make it playable for everyone or else shut it down till it is.

greets

Post edited by [BSG]Dr@gon at 5/16/2008 3:03:59 AM

-=[FSD]=-Master

TWL Member

2008-05-22 05:19

ok so think about it you rilly dont need to cdc if on your server you run aon and anti cheats like that....and there are more people becoming players with the vista problem...ITN NEEDS TO BE FIXED

Hired.Gun

TWL Member

2008-05-22 06:44

ok, this worked for me.
Click start, Computer, Local disk (C), Program Files, Kustom appz software, TWL AA Cheat Deterent Client,
right click on AACDC (the one with the toilet paper roll next to it), go down to properties, hit the compatibility tab, tick the box that says "Run this program in compatibility mode for" (make sure it's windows XP service pack 2), hit Apply then ok. Make sure you run it as Administrator. One of my clan mates told me this and it works.
Post edited by Hired.Gun at 5/22/2008 6:46:27 AM