chicago is not central — TWL Forum Archive

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 14:34

these seasonal tournaments should have a mandatory rule that they be played on dallas servers. i currently ping 130 to all four tourney servers. who gives a shit if the majority of you live on the east coast, it's not like you can hit anything to begin with. pinging better to goon haven than competition servers is a joke.

C53421

Teamwarfare Vet

2011-11-06 14:42

Originally posted by: Nevares
these seasonal tournaments should have a mandatory rule that they be played on dallas servers. i currently ping 130 to all four tourney servers. who gives a shit if the majority of you live on the east coast, it's not like you can hit anything to begin with. pinging better to goon haven than competition servers is a joke.

player01

TWL Member

2011-11-06 14:48

Originally posted by: Nevares
these seasonal tournaments should have a mandatory rule that they be played on dallas servers. i currently ping 130 to all four tourney servers. who gives a shit if the majority of you live on the east coast, it's not like you can hit anything to begin with. pinging better to goon haven than competition servers is a joke.

ReDEyE!!

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 14:51

Originally posted by: Nevares
these seasonal tournaments should have a mandatory rule that they be played on dallas servers. i currently ping 130 to all four tourney servers. who gives a shit if the majority of you live on the east coast, it's not like you can hit anything to begin with. pinging better to goon haven than competition servers is a joke.

Teratos

TWL Member

2011-11-06 15:03

No, it's nice to be able to actually use the chaingun for a change. If you don't like it, don't live out west.

^Rayne

Competition StaffLadder AdminTribes 2

2011-11-06 15:11

How is Dallas any more or less central than Chicago? You do realize that there is a North/South element to being "Central" right?

^Rayne
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: rayne@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp

Julius*

serial experimentTeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 15:13

We need Kansas servers

selfownage

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 15:15

Originally posted by: ^Rayne
How is Dallas any more or less central than Chicago? You do realize that there is a North/South element to being "Central" right?

I live North-West and I think I ping pretty much the same to Chicago/Dallas servers.

^Rayne

Competition StaffLadder AdminTribes 2

2011-11-06 15:19

If Nevares actually showed up for his team last season, he'd have an inkling as to why a choice was made to use Chicago servers instead of Dallas ones.

^Rayne
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: rayne@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp

Nevares

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 15:20

regardless of anything, central dallas servers have always been 10x better than chicago for west players. anything under 100 ping is perfectly playable, but once it starts to get over 100-110 it's pretty ridiculous to say it's an even playing field.

I for one won't be playing in another tourney if the people with 50-60 ping can't compromise a little and adjust to 80-90. try playing with 130 ping in your next match, it's like having constant packet loss.

slush.

TWL Member

2011-11-06 15:26

boohoo

Descolada

TWL Member

2011-11-06 15:30

Originally posted by: Nevares
regardless of anything, central dallas servers have always been 10x better than chicago for west players. anything under 100 ping is perfectly playable, but once it starts to get over 100-110 it's pretty ridiculous to say it's an even playing field.

I for one won't be playing in another tourney if the people with 50-60 ping can't compromise a little and adjust to 80-90. try playing with 130 ping in your next match, it's like having constant packet loss.

I get better pings to Chicago than Texas and I live out west.

player01

TWL Member

2011-11-06 15:50

next tourney is on eu servers

selfownage

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 15:51

iDeally complained to me that he doesn't like playing on east coast servers where he only has 140 ping, he likes central servers with 200 ping.

Teratos

TWL Member

2011-11-06 16:23

As someone that had the misfortune of being on 2 of 3 of nev's tourney teams, I can say that I don't think it matters since he typically only shows for half of the first scrim.

Mizunderstood

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 16:28

Originally posted by: Julius*
We need Kansas servers

yes

Friendo

TWL Member

2011-11-06 17:25

The mean center of population for the United States is in Texas County, Missouri.

The median center of population for the United States is in Pike County, Indiana.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_population#United_States

Of course this calculation does not consider Canadians or Europeans which make a good size of the player pool.

Chicago is a sensible place to have tourney matches.

Tarzul

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 18:31

Originally posted by: Celios

Do not sign up if you can't make at least ~3/4 of your matches (these are played weekly, on Sundays). If you sign up and vanish, I will seriously start handing out bans, or at the very least bar you from signing up for future leagues.

-essence-

TWL Member

2011-11-06 19:37

lol sck my dick celios

Darkstrand

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 20:42

east coast-chicago: 711.47
west coast-chicago: 1739.76

east coast-dallas: 1236.61
west coast-dallas: 1369.55

yep looks about the same to me.

You're going to get enthusiasm but derp level mistakes from Rayne with any tourney. That's part of the price of admission. Deal with it imo

Darkstrand

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 20:44

as an aside for the north-western few

dallas: 1678.12
chicago: 1731.54

because of the flat US map projections I don't think you north-westerns realize how far you are from chicago. It's possible tho your ISP routing randomly makes chicago favorable.
Post edited by Darkstrand at 11/6/2011 8:47:21 PM

BOSS DOGG

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 21:00

i like that the first two tourneys when i was capping i got a nice 45 ping now i play ld this tourney and get stuck on poopy chicago servers

^Rayne

Competition StaffLadder AdminTribes 2

2011-11-06 21:03

Never satisfied.

^Rayne
TeamWarfare Competition Staff
Email: rayne@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #lastgasp

DarkOasis

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-06 21:36

derp lvl mistakes. sigh

Rooster128

TWL Member

2011-11-07 00:53

Here's my herp derp elementary mathematics approach to this problem.

I'm using a rudimentary number graph but fucking trust me those lines are equidistant and they prove the point, using guesstimating and rudimentary number math. Absolute West Coast is 0. Absolute East Coast 10. The Guestimated Center of Population for West Coast ~ 0.5, Center of Population for East Coast is ~ 8.9. Find the average (or center) between those two, its 4.2. Which one is closer to 4.2, Dallas or Chicago?

You may also ask yourself, which is greater- the difference between lengths of lines A and B, or the difference between lengths of lines C and D?

if you don't understand this, your stupid. even with rough guestimating it's not hard to see at all!
Post edited by Rooster128 at 11/7/2011 12:54:44 AM

LOLCAPS

TWL Member

2011-11-07 00:56

that would make hawaii -20 :[

Rooster128

TWL Member

2011-11-07 00:57

If you want to go further and prove my point, take the positon ofvery city from cities below 4.2 in that chart and find average of those numbers to get the average place in chart. Do the same for the East Coast, use numbers to make your own mathematical judgments.

I win.

Rooster128

TWL Member

2011-11-07 01:00

**you're sorry

BOSS DOGG

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-07 01:17

LORIEN IS NOT CENTRAL

C53421

Teamwarfare Vet

2011-11-07 01:21

Glarm

TWL Member

2011-11-07 01:21

hahaaaaa

SterIO

RockstarTeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-07 01:41

I'm kind of surprised that Chicago isn't better for west coast folks since pings are determined mostly by how many hops it takes to get somewhere, and I would think there'd be more direct routing to someplace like Chicago as opposed to someplace in the state that produced George Walker Bush and HautSoss.

Maybe, when we're still playing T2 in 20 years, we will have super-efficient alien technology and can approach the theoretical limit of sub-17 ping for everyone. If I run for president I will make that a priority.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&biw=1920&bih=900&q=3000+miles+divided+by+the+speed+of+light&oq=3000+miles+divided+by+the+speed+of+light

DarkOasis

TeamWarfare Vet

2011-11-07 01:42

u do realize chicago being central has nothing to do with where it is on the map right.

LOLCAPS

TWL Member

2011-11-07 01:49

Originally posted by: SterIO
I'm kind of surprised that Chicago isn't better for west coast folks since pings are determined mostly by how many hops it takes to get somewhere, and I would think there'd be more direct routing to someplace like Chicago as opposed to someplace in the state that produced George Walker Bush and HautSoss.

Maybe, when we're still playing T2 in 20 years, we will have super-efficient alien technology and can approach the theoretical limit of sub-17 ping for everyone. If I run for president I will make that a priority.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&biw=1920&bih=900&q=3000+miles+divided+by+the+speed+of+light&oq=3000+miles+divided+by+the+speed+of+light

I had thought chicago always had the better backbones than dallas did, like when branzone first went live. maybe things changed tho
*20-25ms for hawaii

BubbleTrout

TWL Member

2011-11-07 02:49

All I'm seeing is that there should be some servers in Omaha.

slush.

TWL Member

2011-11-07 02:51

servers in guam imo

Rooster128

TWL Member

2011-11-07 17:53

in soviet russia you choose your internet provider