Back to Tribes 2

TWL Allows Smurfing - Just Do It Right Next Time Mistcane

Historical capture recovered from the Wayback Machine · captured 2011-11-20 · 50 posts
Ignore my username and read:

Everybody thinks m0s$y 0aK is a smurf. Everybody knows he is a smurf. He didn't have a Tribes Next account created before the tournament started (at least not one that was unknown), he registered to TWL the day he signed up for the draft, and he puts up 667 points in the match last night, outscoring Darkstrand, psycore, essence, etc. On the casts you can see him own the shit out of LD "GET OFF ME LITTLE NIGGA!" Batman puts the team on his back.

So why is he allowed to play? Well my understanding is that his IP traces to some small town, which "happens" to be the same as Hawson. He has a dynamic IP, and since it doesn't match exactly to any known players, and there isn't 100% undeniable proof of WHO he is, Celios can't ban him. Apparently the TWL admin handbook says that if you don't have hard evidence of who the smurf is you can't ban them...

So what does this open up for future tournaments? As long as you are able to cover your tracks (play on a new IP 100% of the time) and not get linked to your old account with the exact same IP, you have free reign to smurf in future tournaments. If the admins can't determine WHO you are without a doubt, you are free to cheat. Even if everybody in the game knows you aren't legit, they can't do anything about it. And please, after 10 years in this game, SOMEBODY knows everybody, and the new Goons have legit backgrounds and existing accounts, nobody in this game is going to randomly show up unknown and crush kids.

The competetive future of this game is almost entirely going to be draft tournaments, since they've been so successful the last few times. How are we supposed to have any semblance of balanced or honest play if people are free to blatantly cheat the draft system, as long as we can't figure out who they are?

TWL has a bunch of rules up saying that you aren't allowed to smurf or sign up under a name other than your original without informing the admins, but apparently when it comes to TWL rules... words are wind. Unless TWL takes a different stance on this issue, I'm guessing future draft tournaments are going to be plagued with unknown T1 or base players coming in and dominating. Hell, you could make multiple smurfs so you have a better chance of getting on your ideal team, and just no-show on the teams you don't want to play for, nobody would know the difference. TWL is setting a dangerous precedent here.

I eagerly anticipate the influx of old-school unknowns returning for the next tournament!


Commence trolling and ignoring this post because I'm a troll.
m0ssy 0ak recently was on tribe 1 irc with me (where he is originally from)

turns out he is a torontonian player (i am from toronto as well as mavi)

his aka is anemix and he was co-leader of a oldschool team named kov

i dont expect any of u scum to kno who kov is but they were real good (slam was on that team at one point) so i expect he wuld be good ho in t2 as well as the game is so ez
also it is not a small town it is a burb of toronto called ajax

anemix is originally from hamiliton which is next to ajax and i think he is going to some shitty tech school in ajax and currently renting a room in a house so that would explain the unknown ip and recent sign up etc
more like dareamvirgin amirite loool
i wish i was virgin then i wuld not have fucked that ridiculous whore of a mother of urs and created poor you

it make me sad every day that u born with brain damage asperger syndrome

proj i am ur dad and i am sorry u live in such torment with asperger and low iq

if i had had my way we would have drowned u at birth

always remember to wear a helmet when u go outside and dont forget to breathe because u will die!!!!
Originally posted by: Dareplaytribe
i wish i was virgin then i wuld not have fucked that ridiculous whore of a mother of urs and created poor you

it make me sad every day that u born with brain damage asperger syndrome

proj i am ur dad and i am sorry u live in such torment with asperger and low iq

if i had had my way we would have drowned u at birth

always remember to wear a helmet when u go outside and dont forget to breathe because u will die!!!!

my mom's a man...dareamgay LOL
see this y i feel sorry for u

u so brain damage u get easily confuse and clearly r retard and say dumb stupid things like downsyndrome asperger child that u are

u r mom is not man because she get pregnant when i ejaculate in her whore pussy and inseminate her to produce u

but she drink heavily and punch herself in uterus a lot and try to self abort with coat hanger a few time

it did not work and u end up being born anyway as retard asperger

i sorry u dumb retard projectile

:[

for ur information this is wat a vagina looks like

this what ur mom has (i fuck and inseminate her by putting my penis inside)

nws http://www.universitesaglik.com/wp-content/uploads/vagina.jpg
Ok I will be the first to admit, I've been gone quite a while..and although most the drama that goes on around here seems pretty much like what i remember from 5 or 6 years ago (i guess it was), I do have a question.

Why Smurf? right or wrong aside...what is the point in it really?
maybe Thyth can cooking something handy up that would stop smurfing. but really, what CAN you do about smurfing in a free game where anyone can have as many accounts as they wish?
Originally posted by: Venz Dirge
Why Smurf? right or wrong aside...what is the point in it really?

agree completely.

if ur SO good, just play on ur regular name -.-
Originally posted by: selfownage
<

So why is he allowed to play? Well my understanding is that his IP traces to some small town, which "happens" to be the same as Hawson. He has a dynamic IP, and since it doesn't match exactly to any known players, and there isn't 100% undeniable proof of WHO he is, Celios can't ban him. Apparently the TWL admin handbook says that if you don't have hard evidence of who the smurf is you can't ban them...


Actually, comparing Hawson vs Mistcane situations

Peterbilt/mistcanes IP never showed up as him living in Kentucky, which is where Mistcane actually lives. It showed him playing from Houston TX.. while Hawsons/Batman(hawson playing on toys's account for tounry to smurf with tags)/mossy oaks IP is all from the same town/area yet hes still allowed to play and hipcats doesn't suffer.

So actually its a complete double standard as long as you're buddies with an admin
Post edited by Vaxemous at 9/13/2011 6:44:27 AM
Just want to ask. Why do you play?
Is it not for fun?
Why so much drama, crying and butthurt?

Somebody won, somebody lose. So what? Winners got money? Items? No. That's all just for fun.

So, maybe stop so much cry about smurfs, cheats...

I play honest. Without any butthurts. But with fun. Why this drama?
Originally posted by: iDeally
Just want to ask. Why do you play?
Is it not for fun?
Why so much drama, crying and butthurt?

Somebody won, somebody lose. So what? Winners got money? Items? No. That's all just for fun.

So, maybe stop so much cry about smurfs, cheats...

I play honest. Without any butthurts. But with fun. Why this drama?



I'm high and I think its all funny and entertaining

Gives me something to do when I'm bored out of my mind
Originally posted by: Vaxemous
Originally posted by: selfownage
<

So why is he allowed to play? Well my understanding is that his IP traces to some small town, which "happens" to be the same as Hawson. He has a dynamic IP, and since it doesn't match exactly to any known players, and there isn't 100% undeniable proof of WHO he is, Celios can't ban him. Apparently the TWL admin handbook says that if you don't have hard evidence of who the smurf is you can't ban them...


Actually, comparing Hawson vs Mistcane situations

Peterbilt/mistcanes IP never showed up as him living in Kentucky, which is where Mistcane actually lives. It showed him playing from Houston TX.. while Hawsons/Batman(hawson playing on toys's account for tounry to smurf with tags)/mossy oaks IP is all from the same town/area yet hes still allowed to play and hipcats doesn't suffer.

So actually its a complete double standard as long as you're buddies with an admin


Holy FUCK you're still stuck on completely false information.

How stupid are you, really?

Celios has spelled out to us, multiple times, that this was not the case.

Here, I'll say this in all caps so maybe you'll understand:
HIS ACTUAL IP ADDRESS WAS NOT IN TEXAS.

Goddamn you're dumb.
Bottom line.. you don't install T2 on a saturday and carry a team in a tournament match on the following sunday. It doesn't matter if its Hawson, or whoever the fuck it is.. Its obviously a smurfing vet, and teams are gonna use this tactic to win matches.

I won't ever understand why this game still means that much to someone to use this method to gain an advantage.. but then again its just a game and you technically can run HM2 nowadays and not get caught..

If you are looking for clean, smurf/cheat free competition.. DO NOT PLAY THIS GAME.
lol at selfownage
I'm giving no commentary on the is he or isn't he Hawson thing, because I don't care.

I'm just going to say that the scores the hip cat HO's put up don't matter too much. We were all raping, moving as 1 unit, and encountered different things. The amount of separation between those scores / kills equates to maybe one HO run and in some cases half a HO run.

All it means is that HeXy's team needs better HD.
Alright, what would you say the % chance is that he is not a smurf. That totally unknown player m0s$y 0aK appears after either playing T1 or T2 base 10 years ago, even though nobody in the community has ever heard of him, and puts out a performance like that?
Originally posted by: Dareplaytribe
m0ssy 0ak recently was on tribe 1 irc with me (where he is originally from)

turns out he is a torontonian player (i am from toronto as well as mavi)

his aka is anemix and he was co-leader of a oldschool team named kov

i dont expect any of u scum to kno who kov is but they were real good (slam was on that team at one point) so i expect he wuld be good ho in t2 as well as the game is so ez


This explains it pretty well if it's true. Try reading once in a while.
Originally posted by: selfownage
Alright, what would you say the % chance is that he is not a smurf. That totally unknown player m0s$y 0aK appears after either playing T1 or T2 base 10 years ago, even though nobody in the community has ever heard of him, and puts out a performance like that?


I used all of the data available to me to come up with a complex algorithm to decide how mad you is. Since it is far beyond anything a normal human mind could understand, I will take the liberty to decipher its most important points in layman's terms.

Please try to follow along.

3 # of hipcat matches (100)
---------------------------- = 42.85 percent matches
7 total # of tourney matches

42.85 percent of the matches played in this tourney were played by the hipcats.

100 - 42.85 = 57.15 percent of the tournament matches have nothing to do with Mossy Oak.

Your anger level right now is at about 100 percent. If you were a more logical human, you would be operating at an anger level closer to the percentage of matches hip cats have influenced. For this diagnosis I will suggest you go ahead and lower your anger level down to a more appropriate 42.85 percent. If you are unable to do so in a timely fashion, I will have you ordered illogical and would be forced to suggest to the overlord that you are to be moved up to perhaps the top three on the Angry Player Power Rankings, statistics pending.

edit:
to appeal to larger hhh h human demographics, we have recorded my voice speaking this data.

http://192.20.225.36/tts/speech/f56f808a7fadffc1440e88f8aace5071.wav
Post edited by KambuL at 9/13/2011 1:36:40 PM
You caught me, I'm furious. Nice dodge BTW.
I suppose this kov guy was outscoring Slam 10 years ago as well eh?
Cuz I can almost guarantee that Slam would NOT outscore DS, CPM, Tarzul etc if he reinstalled today and this cat clearly has and on several occasions. Not to mention he hasn't missed a single ma/md.
Remember when Joop (who single handedly beat GOD) came back to T2 classic and got owned by Goons newbs?

If hipcats were able to win the tourney without mossy and/or mrdressup I'd be the first to congratulate them.

I still think DQ has a good chance though, despite hipcats having a 14th round pick who is clearly a 1st round pick. Guess we'll find out soon enough whether honesty will prevail
Not to mention that Stork had no idea who mossy oak was, and I think he's got his finger on the pulse of the T1 community more than anybody else. If it WAS some T1 player, they would just up and say who when it came up week 1.
stork has his finger somewhere thats forsure
up ur butt
crass
anemix has a history of smurfing and attempting to team stack and ruin pickup games so it would not surprise me that he wanted to be no namer for this tourney

fuck anemix

ggs
anyway i suppose it is time for me to win the thread now



if you ban this batman mossy oak hawson guy it is unfair to all the other teams that have faced toys team already with him playing

on top of that ppl will obviously make the argument that because you have the admin on your team u had strings pulled for you

it would be really unfair for teams to have been eliminated playing vs mossy oak and for the rest of toys team to make a strategy that uses him and then have him get banned in the final just because people are only now speaking up about it

he's already been allowed to play for 6 weeks so stopping him now should be out of the question

next time ask ur admins to make better rulings on smurfs

brandon gave all the correct information on mossy oak from day 1 with the ips

i win the thread now

i am king

gg

caylen mad we beat his team without mossy LOL
mrdressup is definitely a gamechanger
demos
Originally posted by: GoHeels
mrdressup is definitely a gamechanger


indeed, so I've heard. apparently t2 hitscan weapons = 2 ez
Mossy Oak is a smurf. We all agree.

I want him to play Sunday. I want to play agasint the best lineup that Hipcats have.

Toys has illegally obtained picks from the 1st draft.
Redeye has greedily picked people in the LateComer draft.

Even Stevens.

Should be GGs.
Post edited by ReDEyE!! at 9/13/2011 5:22:56 PM
I think many people fail to see that this goes far beyond just m0s$y 0aK. This isn't going to be the last TWL draft tournament.
Originally posted by: selfownage
I think many people fail to see that this goes far beyond just m0s$y 0aK. This isn't going to be the last TWL draft tournament.


A precedent has been set I agree.

We need to focus on beating them Sunday, then none of it will matter to me until the next tourney.
You got Celios and Devil, they got mossyoak. Now you fight and let it determine the truth of the matter.

You both got more out of the draft than you needed/should have. That's why it's the perfect battle!
lol redeye thinks his team will win.

cute.
DS is a faggot
Originally posted by: Dareplaytribe

his aka is anemix and he was co-leader of a oldschool team named kov


I don't think he ever played for kov, and he was more of a capper than a dedicated ho.