Hamrietta = Cheater, Evidence Included

1 Year Siteban

2010-08-04 22:19

Originally posted by: PimpMyBride
i was waiting for a long forum post bro.

Yea, I figured the evidence was enough. Unless you get many avid defenders for your cause there's no reason to overdo things.

-essence-

TWL Member

2010-08-04 22:22

good awareness to me
Post edited by -essence- at 8/4/2010 10:30:53 PM

Julius*

serial experimentTeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-04 22:58

extremely blatant cheating

Qy9pop!6^/r6e@1

TWL Member

2010-08-04 23:03

I recently stole julius' zerg build order

but then i watched independence day and went back to protoss
Post edited by Qy9pop!6^/r6e@1 at 8/4/2010 11:03:42 PM

Malone

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-04 23:22

p sure I caught ch33rios cheating once.

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-04 23:37

why are you making a post about this? we know ham cheats. i alrdy saw the rec. yes it was blatant.

=[A]= ALL_EYeZ

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-04 23:39

So I was told this "demo" of Ham is actually a reenactment created by Kryand. They couldn't get Ham's demo, so this vid was created to show what we *think* or MAY have happened. Is this true? Tell me if I'm wrong. If I'm right, I don't understand how you could accuse or implement a ban on someone based on a video that isn't the actual original video.

Originally posted by: ch33ri0s!
the great SCP.

TWL Member

2010-08-04 23:53

Originally posted by: All Eyez 0n Me
Tell me if I'm wrong.

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 00:07

Originally posted by: andycap420
Originally posted by: All Eyez 0n Me
Tell me if I'm wrong.

Ok, I will.

Kryand has a script that is able to change the perspective with the use of someone else's demo. The small box is Thaen's and the main perspective is Ham's. The reason the flags and IFFs are messed up is because the original perspective was Thaen's.

that's great, lets MAKE more bs and complicate a situation 110% more. gj. unless you post that so called script for the community to see i call bs. see it before i believe it.
Post edited by NightWear at 8/5/2010 12:09:03 AM

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 00:16

Originally posted by: All Eyez 0n Me
They couldn't get Ham's demo.

Originally posted by: ch33ri0s!
the great SCP.

They should have asked. I know a few people that have it.

TWL Member

2010-08-05 00:16

Umm, I don't have the script, but I don't know what more proof you need that it exists. The movie shows everything it is capable of. What I said doesn't complicate anything that isn't "110%" obvious from the movie.

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 00:24

something else i saw on the edited version, the HO turns around and goes around the back of the sensor AS the cloaker is going down the hill by the tree(no ret over his head AT ALL whole time). there's no possible way he could have KNOWN without cheats he was there.

TWL Member

2010-08-05 00:33

Once again, there is no edited version. I am not sure of which side you think I'm on. The evidence shows pretty blatant cheating. Just explaining the situation to AE. Maybe you should take a look at what I originally wrote. Also, Hamrietta actually said that he did not record for that map, so I don't know how you "know a few people that have it".

1 Year Siteban

2010-08-05 00:38

Here's Thaen's demo that was used to create this fraps:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mncz0s

It's real, don't you worry. Thaen submitted it to ALIST right after the scrim. Ask Thaen if you want details.

Hamrietta does not have demo's from that map. We asked. He mysteriously "forgot to demo".
Post edited by ch33ri0s! at 8/5/2010 12:40:35 AM

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 00:39

We dont need hams demo.

TWL Member

2010-08-05 00:42

*heavy sigh*

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 00:44

Originally posted by: andycap420
*heavy sigh*

agree'd.

StormcrowIV

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 00:56

This same script was used to catch River Rat cheating so this isn't anything new. You're foolish to discount it as evidence.

Kryand also mentioned that it was waaayyy too powerful to be released to the community (for obvious reasons).

Darkstrand

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 01:03

Originally posted by: NightWear
Originally posted by: andycap420
Originally posted by: All Eyez 0n Me
Tell me if I'm wrong.

Ok, I will.

Kryand has a script that is able to change the perspective with the use of someone else's demo. The small box is Thaen's and the main perspective is Ham's. The reason the flags and IFFs are messed up is because the original perspective was Thaen's.

that's great, lets MAKE more bs and complicate a situation 110% more. gj. unless you post that so called script for the community to see i call bs. see it before i believe it.

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 01:05

Originally posted by: Darkstrand
Originally posted by: NightWear
Originally posted by: andycap420
Originally posted by: All Eyez 0n Me
Tell me if I'm wrong.

Ok, I will.

Kryand has a script that is able to change the perspective with the use of someone else's demo. The small box is Thaen's and the main perspective is Ham's. The reason the flags and IFFs are messed up is because the original perspective was Thaen's.

im hi, vgq.

that's great, lets MAKE more bs and complicate a situation 110% more. gj. unless you post that so called script for the community to see i call bs. see it before i believe it.

-essence-

TWL Member

2010-08-05 01:21

link to flag hud
Post edited by -essence- at 8/5/2010 1:21:40 AM

Kryand

STOP POSTINGTeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 01:37

The modified exe overrides some of the game's built-in security. If a random script kiddy got a hold of it, he could do very bad things. Then again, construction mod players have been using it for years.

Gunnah

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 02:47

wat would t2 be without drama.

-A3-

TeamWarfare VetRanXeroX

2010-08-05 03:50

He was using permaiffs for sure.

I think he realized after coming over the lip of the hill that the guy was actually cloaking (at which point he pretends not to know where said player is).

I honestly cant think of any reason at all he'd spam nades then start chaining away at.....nothing at all. The fact that he stops attacking after coming into view only reinforces the theory that he suddenly realised what he was doing.

Mistcane

Permabanned

2010-08-05 05:23

Originally posted by: -essence-
link to flag hud

Qy9pop!6^/r6e@1

TWL Member

2010-08-05 06:05

Originally posted by: All Eyez 0n Me
So I was told this "demo" of Ham is actually a reenactment created by Kryand. They couldn't get Ham's demo, so this vid was created to show what we *think* or MAY have happened. Is this true? Tell me if I'm wrong. If I'm right, I don't understand how you could accuse or implement a ban on someone based on a video that isn't the actual original video.

I'm really interested to know who told you that Kryand reenacted the whole thing somehow lolz

Choreographed t2 demos!

immigrant

deported

2010-08-05 08:01

Seems pretty blatant to me, my question is whether or not the admins will do anything about it...

-essence-

TWL Member

2010-08-05 08:41

his cousin distracted him, thats why he looked away from the cloaker

Tarzul

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 09:47

blatant hm2. this is one of the most damning pieces of evidence i've seen for perma iffs really. there's absolutely no reason why ham should still be on the ladder

we need real players on the ladder, not cheaters

1 Year Siteban

2010-08-05 10:39

It's funny there's basically unanimous support that this was cheating yet both Celios and Brandon remain obstinate that it "could've been luck".

Yes, I've talked to both of them and this is verbatim.

For some reason Brandon feels it's necessary to defend Hamrietta (PimpMyBride) for some reason. It's not like Ham was a long-time member and friend of SCP, but he joined only about a week ago. Why such ardent support for some one whose nobody but a back-up HO to you?

The only answer one can draw from this is that Bran & Co. are Cheater Sympathizers. SCP must be the only safe haven left where cheaters may reside without worry of being kicked by their leader.

I know that if some blatant cheater joined my team, I would be pretty annoyed that my leader was so stubborn about keeping him on the team.

So what gives SCP? If you don't want to be painted out to be the bad guys maybe you should talk some sense into your leadership. Your reputations (or what's left of them) are at stake.

Thaen

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 11:37

Yes, I believe he was using some script/hack to be able to notice someone approaching. Ham is not a terrible human being; that said he's the person I would label as being most "fishy" right now, and for a while actually. Just playing against him he seems to know where I am if I am randomly out of the blue coming to fight him.

Other facts we can look at:
-He doesn't seem to want to just say "I didn't cheat", from all the times i've seen him talk about this demo

-He told his leaders on A-list he was done with tribes 2 ctf before he joined another team

-He plays League of Legends with me (I didn't invite him, but he kept playing when he saw I was in the game, and for several games) and conversed normally, like he just wants to play

-He hasn't spoken to me about this demo directly

-He said the reason he shot at me was because quote "He saw me" (from the A-list leaders)

-He exhibits unnatural behavior in t2 (twitch 180 degree shots when I came from behind him, knowing enemies location beyond what I would deem normal)

-He demoed the 2 other maps we played in this scrim, but not that map

-He pretends like nothing happened after he started shooting me directly with chaingun and just leaves

My 2c.

Wannacookie

suckky cappar

2010-08-05 11:38

Cheating. You're a disappointment Ham.

saKe

Falhawk's buddyTeamwarfare Vet

2010-08-05 11:40

in any case, I am sure alot more people cheat.. but probably a bit more intelligent about it haha..

I am all for clean gaming because I was actually a really fucking good player and didnt have to cheat so I know its possible. But this game has reached the point where there will be cheaters and you just have to find a way to outbest them and just stay legit.

We've tolerated a few players I will not name for years who are known cheaters.. what makes this guy any different?

1 Year Siteban

2010-08-05 12:09

Originally posted by: Bran
The real reason ch33ri0s! posted this on twl:

[09:34] [ch33ri0s] so you see my name like every time you watch it

Yes. I'm subliminally branding myself on T2. Mission accomplished!!! Notice the next time you go to the market you will probably have this weird inclination to buy Cheerios and not your boyfriend's extra-fiber Bran flakes.

See what I did there? I put my little pun in bold because through this cheating fiasco we've discovered you have mental limitations.

SADDAM AL-TIKRITI

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 12:13

I'd say that video is pretty damning.

If purple base sensors are enough as circuitous/proxy evidence to get you banned on TWL, I don't see really how a way more blatant case like this could just be overlooked as "luck".

Thaen

TeamWarfare Vet

2010-08-05 12:27

don't =/= didn't