my big fing classic rant

so it's not all that really big in size but here it is..

we all know that TV is bogus..i played the beta and it was ok, i bought the actual game and it just doesn't fill my desires, i just don't like it all that much

i come home like i used to back in the day and want to play some quality t2, it just plain doesn't exist late night..anything other than classic just doesn't count

base and other schmo mods are just plain gay. if you are gay i don't mean any harm, but seriously, anything other than classic is a fing waste of time

back in the day i could come home, smoke a bowl, bust open a brew, pack the kodiak and have a good time...that doesn't exist anymore

i just don't understand how classic didn't catch on to the point of non-existance for other patheitc mods that are obsolete

how can people play base or base++? it's really pointless...did these peeps ever play the original tribes and understand the real dynamics of how this game is supposed to be played?

this thread like many others of its kind will move to the bottom of the pit of disperity of ongoing disatisfaction

what do i want? nothing more than decent "classic" servers were peeps are willing to play inebrated on the edge of sanity for the price of playing the game it was meant to be played................classicly

seriously, how can anyone play anything but classic, it's really pathetic

this is my last ditch effort to get old classic players (real) out of the woodwork...smoke a bowl, pack yer kodiak, grab a beer and relight the fire

to the left pls and thanks

I'm with ya on the smoke a bowl, crack a brew, and pack a kodiak. But I'm Irish and 5-11.

rofl, lose the godlike wannabe ego. i personally have never heard of you. your a llama insulting other mods, obviously your good in classic, that's cool, but because you likely suck in anything else that doesn't involve mine discing or chain whoring doesn't mean another mod sucks, but rather your narrow minded and willing not well rounded.

gg thanx.
/me takes a hit. passes. mmmmmm.

wub

shut the fuck up


To the days of old...

Originally posted by: Irish5-7
i just don't understand how classic didn't catch on to the point of non-existance for other patheitc mods that are obsolete

how can people play base or base++? it's really pointless...did these peeps ever play the original tribes and understand the real dynamics of how this game is supposed to be played?

Ok, lets address this. Since I assume you're talking about Renegades and the variant that is running on Miami Vehicles.

Renegades has a lot of former T1 Renegades players (go figure). For them they are playing a game similar to the one they played 6 years ago. Then there are the Renegades players that prefer the mod because it was their first exposure to the franchise. There are people that played NinjaMod (my favorite) that switched to Renegades after NinjaMod died.

If you never played T1 and start off with Renegades in T2, why would you ever want to play base, base++ or Classic? It's like a 5 year old at a toy store looking at two action figures. One is a GI Joe with a rifle and the other is a Super Mega Ultra Man with 5 different guns and Super Mega Ultra Rocket Pack. Which toy do you think the 5 year old is going to want to play with? Do you think he will care if his Dad played with GI Joe when he was a little boy?

Then you have people playing all vehicle maps on Miami Vehicles. For many of them, vehicles were designed to be an integral (and fun) part of Tribes 2. Classic made vehicles practically useless, armor a lot faster and the servers running Classic maps usually have no vehicle pad. So those players wanting a vehicle "fix" don't have a lot of options. Who wants to play through a dozen small maps waiting for the one odd Classic map to come up that might have shrikes (but NO tanks)? Who wants to play a map that does have tanks in Classic when the tank is more fragile than the fucking grav cycle (which now has a chaingun)? Seriously it is the only mod where a small bump in the terrain can take half the health of the tank. That's just inexcuseable for me.

Originally posted by: Irish5-7
what do i want? nothing more than decent "classic" servers were peeps are willing to play inebrated on the edge of sanity for the price of playing the game it was meant to be played................classicly

People on Miami Vehicles are playing Tribes 2 "classicly" as far as their concerned. As a player that never touched Tribes before playing T2, I don't want my game dumbed down. Sure, I appreciated the additional speed of base++ but back then I was playing the more complex NinjaMod. After both died with the last patch all we have left is Classic. I hate the mine disc because it has always been poorly implemented and encourages stay at home LD that hover instead of chasing. I hate the nerfed vehicles. I hate the insane speeds HO can achieve without the balance given to defense in the form of faster repair times that Version 2 had. I do not like playing Dangerous Crossing and having all our assets raped the whole map. While I do not snipe, I hate the "rules" enforced arbitrarily on o-sniping, while the same players can sit on top of their base doing nothing but taking shots at incoming players.

Originally posted by: Irish5-7
this is my last ditch effort to get old classic players (real) out of the woodwork...smoke a bowl, pack yer kodiak, grab a beer and relight the fire

Enjoy your cancer of the mouth.

What I'd like to know is who are the crack heads that are paying for servers that are running nothing but bots. :o

Originally posted by: FatesWarning
What I'd like to know is who are the crack heads that are paying for servers that are running nothing but bots. :o

simTribes

I have a feeling you are more southern than me.

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Originally posted by: BaNsHee
I have a feeling you are more southern than me.

he's from missouri :o

Country land there? Even in TN I've never heard anyone say, "pack yer kodak".

Originally posted by: NightWear
rofl, lose the godlike wannabe ego. i personally have never heard of you. your a llama insulting other mods, obviously your good in classic, that's cool, but because you likely suck in anything else that doesn't involve mine discing or chain whoring doesn't mean another mod sucks, but rather your narrow minded and willing not well rounded.

I'm not sure where you got the ego out of that post, other than that he was pushing his opinion. It's not like he said omg people that play X are bad players, he said they play a bad mod (which is his opinion).

Perhaps someone still has Irish's movie hosted somewhere. Then you could see that he isn't just an m/d and chain whore. (though he does play mostly light)

All he wants is a good late night Classic pub. Is that such a horrible desire?

Originally posted by: BaNsHee
Country land there? Even in TN I've never heard anyone say, "pack yer kodak".

yeah, he totally lost me on that. WTF is a Kodiak.

Originally posted by: jsut

Originally posted by: BaNsHee
Country land there? Even in TN I've never heard anyone say, "pack yer kodak".

yeah, he totally lost me on that. WTF is a Kodiak.

Kodiak is nasty chew. Everyone knows Copenhagen longcut is the way to go.

It's like a 5 year old at a toy store looking at two action figures. One is a GI Joe with a rifle and the other is a Super Mega Ultra Man with 5 different guns and Super Mega Ultra Rocket Pack.

rofl, i guess so

as far as renegades and some of the other mods i never really had any interest, sure, when they first came out for t2 and t1 i played them here and there, most of the time it was cause i came home drunk and accidently joined the server not knowing i was on one until i either went to loadout and could carry 5 more weapons or i went to grab the opposing flag and there was a pseudo forcefield, lol, and then there are those barrier things that are put, are you kidding me...to each his own of course

i guess it's mainly the "version2" players out there or whatever it's called, it just makes me sick there are so many people playing that but not classic

i played t1 for about a year and bought t2 the day it came out and haven't looked back since...i played countless hours and survived all the patches and watched while the game morphed back into what one could call t1 physics

i honestly didn't care for classic when it first came out, but i adapted and learned how to play the game...complaining about mine discing? rofl, it's not like it doesn't take skill...lets be blunt, if yer complaining about mine discing then you just can't do it...what's more exciting then playing midfield and getting an ma mine disc on a capper and killing him where he stands, something comes to mind there...VAV?

problems with tanking and terraine? lol dood, i know it's easy to knock down a tank in classic, if you don't know how to drive, i'd love to send anyone videos from some old skool matches were i used the same tank the entire map

i guess im just complaining in the drop of classic players late night, when i mostly play....and yes, i tried to play some version2 crap last night on some server where i was pinging like 300+ and a disc jump doesn't do a damn thing...how can one live in a world where a disc jump doesn't send you at lighting speeds across the map...btw, capping in ho only exist in classic, how can you deny the fun of shit like that?

*Texas*

Maybe people played Base and Base++ because Classic mod didn't exist at the time? Who would have thought?

Maybe people prefer the slowed down gameplay and prefer more of an team stragetic type gameplay than what Classic had to offer? Who would have thought?

Maybe some people prefer all the extra weapons, deployables, and other type of devices that affect gameplay than what Classic had to offer? Who would have thought?

Classic did catch on in the competitive community of TWL but not for most general players because of several reasons. When the mod was introduced, Tribes 2 already lost a huge player base. Barely anyone plays it now because the game is obeselete. There isn't a new player base coming in to replace the ones that are leaving. A lot of the hardcore 'classic' players like myself have moved on to T:V when the game first came out in October.

Originally posted by: j_thunders

Originally posted by: jsut

Originally posted by: BaNsHee
Country land there? Even in TN I've never heard anyone say, "pack yer kodak".

yeah, he totally lost me on that. WTF is a Kodiak.

Kodiak is nasty chew. Everyone knows Copenhagen longcut is the way to go.

Originally posted by: Irish5-7
...complaining about mine discing? rofl, it's not like it doesn't take skill...lets be blunt, if yer complaining about mine discing then you just can't do it...what's more exciting then playing midfield and getting an ma mine disc on a capper and killing him where he stands, something comes to mind there...VAV?

My complaint with mine disc is the way it is implemented. I don't disagree with the fact hitting someone in midair with it takes skill or the fact that I can't do it.

The implementation is flawed because you supposedly have this explosive device that is volatile enough to blow up with splash damage or when stepped on, but doesn't explode when dropped from a great height by a hovering player.

The method in which it is used most often detracts from gameplay. It is usually a light hovering above an opponent, dropping the mine on an enemy player. Join a Classic server, particularly SpawnCTF and you'll find two or three LD waiting at the flag stand hovering in an attempt to MD an incoming capper. If they do it sucessfully, good for them. If they miss the capper gets away and they're left at the flag stand, usually unable to chase.

If the hovering player doesn't hit the mine (and even I can hit one dropping from the air) then it sticks around for someone else (probably a teammate) to step on.

The process is scriptable and easily executed on stationary targets. The scripts are something I think is pretty gay.

I'd be more in favor of it if mines didn't damage teammates or they exploded when dropped from a great height. When used in an attempt to minedisc they obviously aren't being deployed and as such shouldn't stick around.

Besides the fact it's a crutch and never belonged in T2. It was only added to Classic in an attempt to drawn in players from T1 that never showed up, because the only ones left playing T1 fervently did so because they hated T2.

Base++ was a lot more fun and Version 2 had more balance. Neither needed mine disc.

Banshee wins the TWL "best smilies" award.

julius supports classic, so nothing else really matters

Personally, i think the happy medium between no mine-disc, and T1 mine-disc is to make it possible to grenade-disc people.

You wouldn't have stray mines all over the place that way, and you'd still be able to pull off this sort of combo thing. The damage would be lessened because gren's don't do as much damage as mines, but you'd also be able to do it in spawn gear, so yeah.

Good story eh?

what?

i'll flare disc your face

300kph+ missiles and 1 shot Minedisk kills on a shrike is lame.

no

Irish is 1000% correct. Thank you for posting this, as it reflects everything I feel about this subject.

Classic is the epitome of FPS gaming, all other versions of T2 are worthless.


Don't tell anyone, but my smurf is cleanbot.

shrikes suck, take them out of the game

Originally posted by: Belial
shrikes suck, take them out of the game

Shrikes aren't half as bad as those silly grav scooters.

Originally posted by: Irish5-7
so it's not all that really big in size but here it is..

we all know that TV is bogus..i played the beta and it was ok, i bought the actual game and it just doesn't fill my desires, i just don't like it all that much

i come home like i used to back in the day and want to play some quality t2, it just plain doesn't exist late night..anything other than classic just doesn't count

base and other schmo mods are just plain gay. if you are gay i don't mean any harm, but seriously, anything other than classic is a fing waste of time

back in the day i could come home, smoke a bowl, bust open a brew, pack the kodiak and have a good time...that doesn't exist anymore

i just don't understand how classic didn't catch on to the point of non-existance for other patheitc mods that are obsolete

how can people play base or base++? it's really pointless...did these peeps ever play the original tribes and understand the real dynamics of how this game is supposed to be played?

this thread like many others of its kind will move to the bottom of the pit of disperity of ongoing disatisfaction

what do i want? nothing more than decent "classic" servers were peeps are willing to play inebrated on the edge of sanity for the price of playing the game it was meant to be played................classicly

seriously, how can anyone play anything but classic, it's really pathetic

this is my last ditch effort to get old classic players (real) out of the woodwork...smoke a bowl, pack yer kodiak, grab a beer and relight the fire

to the left pls and thanks

OK, Ive crawled out, what now?


Lets smoke (vap) some and play.


"A fight is not won by one punch or kick. Either learn to endure or hire a bodyguard."
-Lee

Originally posted by: FatesWarning
What I'd like to know is who are the crack heads that are paying for servers that are running nothing but bots. :o

Who knows.
"A fight is not won by one punch or kick. Either learn to endure or hire a bodyguard."
-Lee

The fact that there are all these people playing other mods, proves your hypothesis of classic's utter domination of said mods, wrong.

Differnet strokes for different folks.

Post edited by Toys at 3/5/2005 7:20:47 PM

Toys c/o
Team Rapture

you're all faggots and idiots.


everyone knows construction mod is the fucking best.


To the days of old...

If the hovering player doesn't hit the mine (and even I can hit one dropping from the air) then it sticks around for someone else (probably a teammate) to step on.

Yes indeed in classic there are multiple times when I', skiing around and get nailed by a mine, usually someone from my teams mine. Most good classic players have good mine manners. What I mean is when you see a stray mine you take it out, just like I personally do when I miss someone. Very rarely do I leave a mine just laying in the field.

Differnet strokes for different folks.

Indeed.

As far as mine discing shikes and super fast missles flying around the map is just part of the game. Mine discing shrikes doesn't happen all that much and when it does it's damn cool. I personally still go with the shock lance on shrikes cuz it's damn fun.

The super fast turrets and missles can at times be quite cumbersome, I agree. Nothing sucks more than a plasa turret popping you as you come in for a flag grab and what have ya. The only thing that I miss from the old base++ days was being able to just own a whole map using a bommer...it proved to be much more inefficient when missles come at lightening speed and such, but just part of the game I guess.

Speeds of classic for me personally are something that I am so used to that I really find it hard to play anything but. It's fast pace and speed has really spoiled me. Sure, slow play brings in more dynamics into strats and even play, but what's better than 5 minutes before the map basically saying, "ok, you 5 go ho, you 2 cap, everyone else on d".

I don't know what you guys are talking about with these super fast missiles. I've never failed to outrun a missile in a shrike, and I even outrun missiles on foot when I'm in a cap route or on the way to the start of the route, and by outrun them, I don't mean I cap right before they hit me... I mean they blow up by themselves before they can catch me.

Yes, the mine problem is pretty gay. Getting hit by random mines because someone sucks so bad they missed a mine-disc in that area 10 minutes ago is the gayest thing in classic next to terrain deadstops. I always thought there should be two mines... deployable mines and throwable mines... but that just sounds dumb.


Don't tell anyone, but my smurf is cleanbot.

classic is the shit. and yes smoke bowl and crack brew

random mines suck but oh well, i learned to deal with it a long time ago, as everyone else who played t1 did.


you people who cry about it are old news.


To the days of old...

Originally posted by: Kryand
is the gayest thing in classic next to terrain deadstops.

You nailed it, that is by far the most aggravating thing in T2.

Everything else you can work around, but cruising downhill and coming to a dead stop is the suck.

Originally posted by: REDSTARR
classic is the shit. and yes smoke bowl and crack brew

Im thinking it might be time to form a Tokers vs "Mr. Clean Jeans ladder.


....the only new rule, at least 45 seconds between maps!