we're getting a lot of old peeps back

someone set up a vet server :E

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How to run a "Vet" server
by jsut

Step 1: use a double overflow. no pw till about 20ish people, then it has the "vet" pw, after that it has a private pw for admins or elite people or whatever.

Step 2: get the pub started. This requires probably 5-10 people that will just get on the server and fuck around for an hour. Once the server gets that many people on it, it will fill up with noobs, or with the people that have it favorited fairly quickly.

Step 3: actually have enough active players to keep the server at 20 or more people for an extended period of time. That way the noobs will eventually all drop, and they won't be replaced by other noobs that don't know the join pass. They will instead be replaced by people that do know the first join pass, which i will assume are not noobs.

Step 4: have enough admins that will actually enforce the rules and not abuse their power (too much) to keep the server running smoothly.

The problem with this plan is that T2 doesn't currently have enough active players to support more than a couple of servers IMO. If you can get most of skilled people to get on the vet server and start it one night, then you might get it to fill up and work for that night, but the chances of it staying full on a regular basis without daily jumpstarts in pretty much non-existant at this point.

That being said, if everyone reading the forums here wanted to make it happen, it could happen, but it would basically just mean moving everyone from mofos to the vet server. Whether or not that accomplishes anything in the long run i have no idea.

edit: added the stuff about admins.

for what it's worth, this is basically how Rapture east worked back in the day. The noobs kept it semi populated all day, then at about 3, when the highschool kids got home from school the noobs would get weeded out. In the evenings, when the majority of the community (in NA) could play, the noobs were completely removed by the number of "vets" that wanted to play on it. What exactly constitutes a "vet" is debateable, but in the case of R-east, we'll just say anyone that had the first join pw was "vet enough" which i'm sure will infuriate elitists everywhere. (i had the super overflow and admin so i'm better than all of you. haha newbs)

(reposts are fun)

I want to do this in a big way. I kicked it around a little bit in the ts last night and no one seems to like the idea.

i honestly don't see the point given the current player base. It'd be easier to get MoFo's to change their config slightly and add some admins.

Jsut, i don't understand. I'm talking about a new server. We redefine the admin group, add a custom map rotation, and change the rules a little from the Titty Bar (i.e., not so noob friendly and allow osniping of the flag carrier). We would need it to go for about 4-6 hours every night.

Is that not what you are talking about?

What i'm saying is that all you'll accomplish is moving the people from one server to another, if you accomplish that at all. All the people that don't read here will pub mofo's anyway, because they always have, and whenever your server drops below say 10 people, it will die out quickly and everyone will end up back on mofo's because it had more players.

IF (big if) you can get a dozen people to agree to start the pub every afternoon, AND they actually do that, AND the people reading the forum are willing to pub there assuming the pub has already been started, then you might be able to keep it populated for 4-6 hrs an evening. Without those people that are willing to start it though, it's not going to go anywhere.

by "start the pub", i mean join an empty server and fuck around until it starts to get populated. obviously you need a bunch of people to do this at once to get the server going. once it's got ~20 people in it, it'll usually stay full till everyone goes to bed.

mofos would be a good enough server if they allowed osniping on the flag carrier

COUGHHACKCOUGH

Originally posted by: Magus Kyros
mofos would be a good enough server if they allowed osniping on the flag carrier

COUGHHACKCOUGH

one reason why i really liked KY backwoods :/


jay

There is room for another server for about 4 hours every night. Currently, there are a lot of people who want to play on Titty Bar but can't because the server is always full. We have a done a decent job of trying to accommodate the different player groups on the server, but could do a better job if we had two servers going. IMO, the quality of game on the second server, and the good maps, will make it worth the trouble.

Personally, I am not willing to put in the time on getting a new server started. Me and a few other guys already did that once. Took us 4 months. Someone else is going to have to step up to the plate here if they want this to happen.

Originally posted by: jsut
What i'm saying is that all you'll accomplish is moving the people from one server to another, if you accomplish that at all. All the people that don't read here will pub mofo's anyway, because they always have, and whenever your server drops below say 10 people, it will die out quickly and everyone will end up back on mofo's because it had more players.

IF (big if) you can get a dozen people to agree to start the pub every afternoon, AND they actually do that, AND the people reading the forum are willing to pub there assuming the pub has already been started, then you might be able to keep it populated for 4-6 hrs an evening. Without those people that are willing to start it though, it's not going to go anywhere.

by "start the pub", i mean join an empty server and fuck around until it starts to get populated. obviously you need a bunch of people to do this at once to get the server going. once it's got ~20 people in it, it'll usually stay full till everyone goes to bed.

Personally I think it is a great idea. It worked well on Rapture server and if there is an extra server to give it a shot on then I don't see why it would hurt to try.

That being said, People who don't read the forums will still go and refresh the server list and if they see a server called "Vet" they will be drawn to look at who is playing in it. Then they will promptly go to irc and start asking pws. I also think this might draw a few more people back.

whats up mag
remember me?
id come back to t2 but my disk is gay and i dont want to buy a new one

Originally posted by: Pacoloco
whats up mag
remember me?
id come back to t2 but my disk is gay and i dont want to buy a new one

Tribes 2 is now free. High demand caused FilePlanet to get more CDkeys from Vivendedi but will be back up soon. I'm sure someone has it on an ftp somewhere though, since you already have a CDkey.

yes

instead of 1 server with 40 people in it there should be 2 servers with 20 people in each. much more fun imo

Originally posted by: jsut
The problem with this plan is that T2 doesn't currently have enough active players to support more than a couple of servers IMO. If you can get most of skilled people to get on the vet server and start it one night, then you might get it to fill up and work for that night, but the chances of it staying full on a regular basis without daily jumpstarts in pretty much non-existant at this point.

I got tired of reading, but I did read this... I play on the server all the time, what more VET do you want?

Originally posted by: FatesWarning
instead of 1 server with 40 people in it there should be 2 servers with 20 people in each. much more fun imo

Being worked on...now, if you can convince people to NOT flock to the server with more people in it, we've got something.

Originally posted by: NixFix

Originally posted by: FatesWarning
instead of 1 server with 40 people in it there should be 2 servers with 20 people in each. much more fun imo

Being worked on...now, if you can convince people to NOT flock to the server with more people in it, we've got something.

Sweet!

that shouldn't be that much of a problem, if anybody decides to play, try to get a couple more peeps and tk each other, it'll start filling up slowly, hopefully

Magus and I will get the 2nd server rocking.

i got MY SERVER rocking....

Originally posted by: F r e a k

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vets, n00bs who fucking cares?
putting pass on pubs is counter-productive

good luck with that

Originally posted by: Dizoja
vets, n00bs who fucking cares?
putting pass on pubs is counter-productive

good luck with that

Ya because newbies like yourself dont get the pass.

Originally posted by: Gun$linga

Originally posted by: Dizoja
vets, n00bs who fucking cares?
putting pass on pubs is counter-productive

good luck with that

Ya because newbies like yourself dont get the pass.

Owned.

I say remove the no o-sniping the carrier rule on MoFo's and lower the first overflow to 24, and then one at 28 or so and limit it to 32. 36 people in a server is too much. When it hits that we get real lucky and the map being served is copper sky, then all hell breaks loose because the map is too small.

up with Backwoods down with Titty Bar


To the days of old...

Originally posted by: MojoBlue
I say remove the no o-sniping the carrier rule on MoFo's and lower the first overflow to 24, and then one at 28 or so and limit it to 32. 36 people in a server is too much. When it hits that we get real lucky and the map being served is copper sky, then all hell breaks loose because the map is too small.

Agreed.

We are setting up a double overflow to Titty Bar asap. Lock at 28. Admin overflow to 32. SA pass to 34. Since there are only like 10 SA's, and half of those don't really play all that often, that's essentially a max player count of 32.

Should cut down on some of the clutter.

Originally posted by: shi-
up with Backwoods down with Titty Bar

I tried to get in touch with BDR in #ky a couple of weeks ago for the purpose of trying to talk him into getting Backwoods fired back up (or at least letting us use the name for one of our servers), to no avail. I'm told he's taken an extended leave of absence from gaming.

That said, worry not. An even better server will be up and available for your use here directly. Give us another day or two.

cochese

Originally posted by: j_thunders


We are setting up a double overflow to Titty Bar asap. Lock at 28. Admin overflow to 32. SA pass to 34. Since there are only like 10 SA's, and half of those don't really play all that often, that's essentially a max player count of 32.

Should cut down on some of the clutter.

IMO you should adjust those numbers. you're still over filling the server IMO. If it was my server, (which it isn't), i think you'd be better off like this:

0-22: no pw
23-28: vet pw
29-30: SA pw

that's assuming you were going to distrubute the pw that goes on at 28 to select people. But if you weren't then, why do you need the double overflow in the first place :x

anyway, feel free to disregard

We are setting up another double overflowed vets server, i.e, nixfix dedicated dallas.

Titty Bar = all purpose, always full, server side rotation with a few TWL maps thrown in.

Nixfix Dedicated = vets for about 5 hours every night (for now), locks at 20, all TWL/custom map rotation.

Two servers.

fancy

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
i got MY SERVER rocking....

touching yourself doesn't count for this thread

I'm not wearing any pants

iye wunt tew pway :>

Originally posted by: }VeGeTiUS{

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
i got MY SERVER rocking....

touching yourself doesn't count for this thread

shit, that leaves me out

hohoho

greg, u air are teh sig Masta!