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TWL Member

2008-08-19 02:00

I would personally like to thank TWL for choosing border as the OT map. It was great that, after 3 hours of playing, we had all our work screwed over by this decision.

Double OT (if necessary) - If total rounds won is tied then sudden death OT will be played on the current OT map. Winner take all. Home team gets side choice. If the OT map is an assault vs. assault map with multiple objectives such as MOUT McKenna, SF Sandstorm, or Urban Assault, teams will need to eliminate the opposing team or hold 2 objectives as time expires to receive a win. If both teams are alive at the end of the round, but neither team holds 2 objectives, then the round is a tie. If the last remaining players from both teams manage to kill each other before the round ends, the round is considered a tie. In the event of a tied round in sudden death overtime, the teams will switch sides, and continue playing until a round is won and a winner is determined.

so basically, we got put on assault, in a sudden death round... in a match that we should have won.

Thanks again.

sixxtoes.si

loveline

TWL Member

2008-08-19 03:30

god you guys get so butthurt, shut up already.

beeboopoo

TWL Member

2008-08-19 04:13

get better.

-Maynard

TeamWarfare VetTWL Retired Staff

2008-08-19 04:55

I understand why you would be angry but,

- You did not complain about the rules nor the map until after the first overtime was over and you were faced with having to play the sudden death on assault. Not until AFTER you had played the first OT on border did a few of your teammates hop on irc and complain about the OT map.

- It clearly states in the map list and other important info sticky (as well as the rules), that any map from the season rotation can be picked as an overtime map. This means you should have been ready.

- On top of the fact that either side can win on border with a good strat, after the first ot was over you were tied. If you did not want it to go to the sudden death (which being the lower seed you get the worse of the sides on any map), then you only have yourself to blame for not taking more rounds.

I agree that border is a controversial map for overtime, but it was a mixup from the ordinary, and as previously stated you should have been ready for anything. I am sorry that you are frustrated with your loss, but maybe this will give you incentive to come more prepared next time.

sixxtoes

TWL Member

2008-08-19 06:00

To be totally honest, I never knew about the sudden death OT. I assumed it would be something intelligent like 2 rounds on each side, or 1 round on each side. When dTp mentioned sudden death in the match, we told them they were kidding, and went straight to the rules, only to realize that they were right.

I think every single person in this league will agree with me how unfair that was. You can continue to defend the choice, but it will do nothing, just as my ranting will do nothing.

On top of the fact that either side can win on border with a good strat, after the first ot was over you were tied. If you did not want it to go to the sudden death (which being the lower seed you get the worse of the sides on any map), then you only have yourself to blame for not taking more rounds.

I would like to put a challenge to every team in open. They will each get one round against us, where we get defense. If a single team can take a round, I will stand corrected, but I am confident that we will win every one.
Also, we came very very close to taking a round on assault. If I had been watching the timer and killed the guy, rather than rushing for the obj building, we would have won.

Lastly, we were very ready for Border. It's just its so defensively lopsided that only an invite team would have stood a fair chance in a 1 round sudden death on assault.

To everyone else. Continue to flame, I really don't care.

EDIT:

it was a mixup

now say that in context so I can shut up.
Post edited by sixxtoes at 8/19/2008 6:06:33 AM

ThaRooster

TWL Member

2008-08-19 10:01

well i guess us and dTp both suck on border cux neither one of us could come very close to taking an assault round. But none the less think about the situation in our eyes we were stuck with sudden death OT on a very unbalanced map..and just goes to show you how retarded this league is....and wh!z i understand that assault can be won..but were not an invite team with hours of strat time and teamwork time...and neither was the other team so...just my .02

Deos

TeamWarfare VetTWL Retired Staff

2008-08-19 10:09

No reason to pick such a crap map for OT.

TWL has always used balanced Assault/Assault maps. To do this in the playoffs is an embarrassment.

Fausty

TeamWarfare VetTWL Contributor

2008-08-19 10:48

Originally posted by: Ðeos
No reason to pick such a crap map for OT.

TWL has always used balanced Assault/Assault maps. To do this in the playoffs is an embarrassment.

bingo. and not to mention that one day TWL will purge itself of the last of Rhitty's horrible ideas and stop this playoff format. Or do the rest of you enjoy 3-4 hour marathons of gaming on a monday night?

The feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.

Jesterss

TeamWarfare Vet

2008-08-19 11:37

lmao yeah this was a damn joke.. not to mention we played the first half of Urban 3v4 due to sixx forgetting what time we play... we would have easily won this without having to go to Overtime... then once we get to overtime, we get a fuckin stupid ass sudden death?.. lawl @ this league

insaneruss

TeamWarfare VetTWL Retired Staff

2008-08-19 13:50

Originally posted by: sixxtoes

If I had been watching the timer and killed the guy, rather than rushing for the obj building, we would have won.

There you go, you hit the nail on the head your putting the blame were it needs to be!

I'm not a border fan either but I do like to see mixups (meaning stuff out of the ordinary) thats what make this league so fun!

I also will agree with scarface and think Russd3 is doing one heck of a job and is doing his best.
Post edited by insaneruss at 8/19/2008 1:51:37 PM

Mulgarus

TeamWarfare VetTWL Retired Staff

2008-08-19 14:12

Originally posted by: [Unknown]
Sudden Death situations and OT Maps should always be one of the following: MOUT McKenna, SF Sandstorm, SF Dockside, or Urban Assault..enough said no exceptions

DirtyDawg2

TWL Member

2008-08-19 14:20

Originally posted by: ={Mr.Clean}=
sixxtoes has the right to be angry, deciding a match and the finalist of a 3-4 month season on 1 round on border where 1 team is assault in a sudden death is almost as laughable as Oasis being picked as the 6v6 finals map one year.

TWL needs more experienced admins making decisions in these situations. That was just plain retarded...

Russd3

TeamWarfare VetRetired Sr. StaffTWL Contributor

2008-08-19 14:52

Hey guys. Perhaps everyone makes mistakes. One thing to think about though. I took over the league in the middle of the playoffs last season and did something very similar for one OT round with the selection of River Basin. There were very few complaints then and there was an off season to discuss things. That same opportunity will be provided this offseason.