Open wite-ups blue division

Derivation vs rupture

Neither teams have had a real challenge this season. Both teams have reformed since the end of the last season as well and picked up some new members and lost some.Both teams have developed an about equall aim and the winner will be which ever team has better teamwork and strats. Derivation does posses a higher level of gaming experience, but rupture seems to have worked to that same level through cal and twl as well.
Rupture>derivtation 7-5 MOTW


MIA vs MC gaming

Mc gaming has more experience with competition then MIA does. Granted MC makes the match then it should be a fairly easy match for them.
MC>MIA 9-3


CAG vs Ci
Both of these teams came into this league unknown by the most part. they have both shown that they are a better half of the commmunity. CAG though has shown more potencial and proved themselves worthy of their rank after their match with no hesitaion, when the odds were clearly against them. Ci has had one tough match vs deadly impulse and cn still show what their capable of.
Cag>Ci 8-4


AoD vs IMA

IMA is not new to the league and did fairly well last season. Aod was new this season and has done decently. IMA has some good shots as well.
IMA>AoD 8-4


Di vs TBA

Both teams are 3-1 and have similar rw/rl records. MA is a map where vision is crucial and long range shooters are needed. Di seems to have better aim long range then TBA does, but this one will come down to the line.
Di>TBA 7-5

DG vs KOH

DG has come a long way since last season where they had a loosing record. KOH is a new team. It seems that DG just needed to get some experience under their belts to realy get rolling.
DG>KOH 9-3

3rdID vs 5th cav

5th cav has had a depressing start and had some bad losses. 3rd id has had some close matches and should take this one
3rdID>5th cav 8-4

nHl vs oz

if nhl shows up for this match they are a sure win. oz does not have enough experience as a team yet, but if they stick around i think thar they will be a decent team next season.
nhl>oz 9-3

No hesitation vs 187 platoon
nh has far more competative experience then 187 platton. they probably will be able to just run around the map to win this one, after loosing to CAG 7-5 while playing man down.
nh>187 platoon 12-0

KYA vs BM

BM is a brazillian clan and get rather large pings, making it harder for them. KYA should be able to win this one just because of pings.
KYA>BM 7-5

team underpaid vs ESF

ESF has been a no show for 2 matches. the 2 they showed up for they lost. under paid has more experience and better shots and should be able to win this match.
team uP> ESF 9-3

sorry that my spelling sucks.

Originally posted by: d!e$el^

sorry that my spelling sucks.

im going to have to mess with you on vent about that

CAG vs Ci
Both of these teams came into this league unknown by the most part. they have both shown that they are a better half of the commmunity. CAG though has shown more potencial and proved themselves worthy of their Rank. .............Uhh Ok ,lol 2 good teams, but better than the the other half, lets wait and see bro. We all have played diffrent level's of teams so far!And All the teams we have faced have been great teams, there is many good teams to come,But I think this is a very equal playing field for all teams , and so far most teams are worthy of open leauge material . -mc- and frogs could very easy be intermediate teams.
Post edited by -Dawg- at 5/11/2006 1:20:32 PM

Well hope we can prove ya wrong ={Mr.Clean}=

Originally posted by: -)tba(-Techcon
Well hope we can prove ya wrong ={Mr.Clean}=

These guys must have never seen you guys play...I think it's gona be 1 heck of a match!

nice job Diesel. thanks.

Originally posted by: -Dawg-
CAG vs Ci
Both of these teams came into this league unknown by the most part. they have both shown that they are a better half of the commmunity. CAG though has shown more potencial and proved themselves worthy of their Rank. .............Uhh Ok ,lol 2 good teams, but better than the the other half, lets wait and see bro. We all have played diffrent level's of teams so far!And All the teams we have faced have been great teams, there is many good teams to come,But I think this is a very equal playing field for all teams , and so far most teams are worthy of open leauge material . -mc- and frogs could very easy be intermediate teams.

These facts do not include forfeits. these are the records of the opponents of all of the undefeated teams in open:

Lez Frogs' opponents record this season: 3-12
SFTO's opponents record this season: 8-8
ProX's opponents record this season: 4-10
SAR's opponents record this season: 2-10
VX9's opponents record this season: 2-9

dX's opponents record this season: 3-10
MIA's opponents record this season: 1-7
Rupture's opponents record this season: 2-8
mC's opponents record this season: 3-5
CAG's opponents record this season: 1-9

Looking at these statistics I would like to know how you pick Lez Frogs and mC out of all of these teams as teams that could very easily be intermediate teams when all of these teams pretty much have played the same level of competition.

You are right though about your team facing good teams so far.

Your teams opponents record: 10-4

I like all open teams, I pub nightly and they are all good teams. My prediction on -mc- and frogs is just my opinion bud. I do know once all teams have played each other there will be a diffrent feeling than there is at the moment, we have Insurgent,Pipe,and mnt meakena ahead that will challenge us even if we play 2 vs 6 for our strength I think is outdoors .
Post edited by -Dawg- at 5/11/2006 3:28:27 PM

Originally posted by: -Dawg-
I like all open teams, I pub nightly and they are all good teams. My prediction on -mc- and frogs is just my opinion bud. I do know once all teams have played each other there will be a diffrent feeling than there is at the moment, we have Insurgent,Pipe,and mnt meakena ahead that will challenge us even if we play 2 vs 6 for our strength I think is outdoors .

Next week we will start to see what teams are actually good. Should interesting.

indeed.

Just so people know, the core players of Derivation were from Team Special Forces. SF was in the intermediate league 3 out of the last four seasons, but since we left and formed our own team, SF's past doesn't cross over. Justice, Alpha One, Medic, and myself were the reason that SF, despite being entirely community based, was able to be an Intermediate team that went 4-6 last year. We would have made the Intermediate playoffs if we had the talent that Derivation has now.

Although Rupture has greatly improved (they used to be EAST), our first match as Derivation was against East or Rupture and we beat them 11-3. I think this match will be close, but don't count us out heh

Wow , so you guys are better than SF......geeez We played you guys in Mnt Meakena last year , 4 vs 4 intermediate.(We was =AAF=)
Post edited by -Dawg- at 5/11/2006 5:30:59 PM

Originally posted by: -Dawg-
Wow , so you guys are better than SF......geeez

Well I don't know if you meant that sarcastically, but by no means do I think SF was ever a powerhouse. That is why I left with some of my members to make a new team. My point is that we didn't come out of nowhere and we have Inter experience and some Invite experience with Understatement.

yeah, i dont know how you meant that dawg but i can recall a scrim durring last season on rb where your team just left the server.

i never had a match vs sf but i have scrimmed dx and matched rup and this should be a 7-5 match either way, maybe 7-6.

Originally posted by: Sp33d.
yeah, i dont know how you meant that dawg but i can recall a scrim durring last season on rb where your team just left the server.

i never had a match vs sf but i have scrimmed dx and matched rup and this should be a 7-5 match either way, maybe 7-6.

uhh, sorry wasn't at that scrim{woulda loved it), nor did I mean that any way other than SF had very good skillz, but take it as you may!I have my opinion and just liked SF as a team!We are friends that play for fun, and have a total of 5 minutes worth of tactics,lol
Post edited by -Dawg- at 5/11/2006 6:43:34 PM

Originally posted by: =][SFTO][=Champ

Originally posted by: -Dawg-
CAG vs Ci
Both of these teams came into this league unknown by the most part. they have both shown that they are a better half of the commmunity. CAG though has shown more potencial and proved themselves worthy of their Rank. .............Uhh Ok ,lol 2 good teams, but better than the the other half, lets wait and see bro. We all have played diffrent level's of teams so far!And All the teams we have faced have been great teams, there is many good teams to come,But I think this is a very equal playing field for all teams , and so far most teams are worthy of open leauge material . -mc- and frogs could very easy be intermediate teams.

These facts do not include forfeits. these are the records of the opponents of all of the undefeated teams in open:

Lez Frogs' opponents record this season: 3-12
SFTO's opponents record this season: 8-8
ProX's opponents record this season: 4-10
SAR's opponents record this season: 2-10
VX9's opponents record this season: 2-9

dX's opponents record this season: 3-10
MIA's opponents record this season: 1-7
Rupture's opponents record this season: 2-8
mC's opponents record this season: 3-5
CAG's opponents record this season: 1-9

Looking at these statistics I would like to know how you pick Lez Frogs and mC out of all of these teams as teams that could very easily be intermediate teams when all of these teams pretty much have played the same level of competition.

You are right though about your team facing good teams so far.

Your teams opponents record: 10-4

You are absolutely right about mC being terrible. People just think we're good because most of us have been on invite teams before.
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Originally posted by: Maniac.

Originally posted by: =][SFTO][=Champ

Originally posted by: -Dawg-
CAG vs Ci
Both of these teams came into this league unknown by the most part. they have both shown that they are a better half of the commmunity. CAG though has shown more potencial and proved themselves worthy of their Rank. .............Uhh Ok ,lol 2 good teams, but better than the the other half, lets wait and see bro. We all have played diffrent level's of teams so far!And All the teams we have faced have been great teams, there is many good teams to come,But I think this is a very equal playing field for all teams , and so far most teams are worthy of open leauge material . -mc- and frogs could very easy be intermediate teams.

These facts do not include forfeits. these are the records of the opponents of all of the undefeated teams in open:

Lez Frogs' opponents record this season: 3-12
SFTO's opponents record this season: 8-8
ProX's opponents record this season: 4-10
SAR's opponents record this season: 2-10
VX9's opponents record this season: 2-9

dX's opponents record this season: 3-10
MIA's opponents record this season: 1-7
Rupture's opponents record this season: 2-8
mC's opponents record this season: 3-5
CAG's opponents record this season: 1-9

Looking at these statistics I would like to know how you pick Lez Frogs and mC out of all of these teams as teams that could very easily be intermediate teams when all of these teams pretty much have played the same level of competition.

You are right though about your team facing good teams so far.

Your teams opponents record: 10-4

You are absolutely right about mC being terrible. People just think we're good because most of us have been on invite teams before.

My post was not directed toward one or two teams, it was more of how can you take two teams out of that group as a whole and say they are better when none of them have been tested against a quality team yet this season except for maybe mC once and SFTO once or twice.

And when I say quality I mean a open team that will most likely have a winning record by the end of the season.
Post edited by =][SFTO][=Champ at 5/11/2006 6:54:30 PM

look what I started, lol guys, thats 1 persons opinion, Hell I'm not TWL team ranker,lol

Admin, plz move this topic to aadrama.com

Originally posted by: =][SFTO][=Champ

Looking at these statistics I would like to know how you pick Lez Frogs and mC out of all of these teams as teams that could very easily be intermediate teams when all of these teams pretty much have played the same level of competition.

Some of these teams have played against higher level teams(inters & invites). Don't let there playing style or there lazyness throw you off.

Originally posted by: Maniac.

You are absolutely right about mC being terrible. People just think we're good because most of us have been on invite teams before.

I am going to have to agree with maniac.. sadly

Originally posted by: vhs_tape's yearbook

I will always remember...
the funny background noises that would come from maniac's house...

match experience does not guarentee a win

No guarantee, but of course it helps!

true, but MAP experience helps much more

Originally posted by: KCToker
true, but MAP experience helps much more

i disagree. I think MATCH experience weighs a lot more than MAP experience. Case in point, we beat OuterZone 9-3 on CSAR. We had about 100hrs combined, they had 9000. The team work is really key, no matter what map it is.
Post edited by Deuce79 at 5/12/2006 5:58:23 PM

when saying this, im going on the assumption that the teams use at least decent teamwork and strategy. of course, since this is the open league, i guess making that assumption would be stupid.

Originally posted by: KCToker
when saying this, im going on the assumption that the teams use at least decent teamwork and strategy. of course, since this is the open league, i guess making that assumption would be stupid.

I don't think that would be stupid. The teams at the top, such as Derivation, MisChief, and Rupture could be intermediate league teams. In these teams case, these players are from past teams that have had success or much experience. Don't underestimate them.
Post edited by russkie. at 5/12/2006 10:10:25 PM

Originally posted by: Sp33d.
yeah, i dont know how you meant that dawg but i can recall a scrim durring last season on rb where your team just left the server.

Wow...thats odd,because we've never scrimmed RB before....except a few times with the Heartbreaker's,and that was 3 years ago.

Originally posted by: Deuce79

Originally posted by: KCToker
true, but MAP experience helps much more

i disagree. I think MATCH experience weighs a lot more than MAP experience. Case in point, we beat OuterZone 9-3 on CSAR. We had about 100hrs combined, they had 9000. The team work is really key, no matter what map it is.

deuce ftw