Thanks TC for your server

All our mysterious server problems went away once we moved.

Thanks for use of the server.

Yes, thank you TC, was very very nice of you to help with the "mysterious server problems" that SMAK has NEVER encountered since the patch was released. Thank you for promptly fixing the..ahem..problems.

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As TC stated, it was probably a router messup somewhere between me and the SMAK server...same thing with Bong. It was very annoying to be playing and both me and Bong got booted off the server at the exact same times repeatedly. I had never had problems like that prior to the patch, so the patch was looking like the culprit initially. Also Stalls, the patch was just released yesterday...so you had one full day of playing with the patch, that's hardly enough time to be boasting about NEVER encountering a problem.

Post edited by [Geno]Jarlaxle at 1/24/2003 11:04:02 AM

TWL Global Operations Administrator

I would have to say a router issue, and nothing to do with the patch.

The patch touched nothing on the net. It was a cheat/exploit patch patching the c-mag and thermal scope exploit.

The only other part it touched was incompatible hardware. New error messages and what not.

The reason I think stalls said the above. Is SMAK plays on BQL as well. And the day the patch was released and last night not including the Geno match SMAK played in about 7 or 8 other matches I could be off by a few either direction. There were zero problems. Also no errors or problems were reported the last two days by our regular server fans meaning D12, GiJoe, DLR, 1 Hifi member, or any pubs. The one thing I will say though. The net has been alittle wierd as of late. I've had random modem resets whihc I believe is just my modem being retarded. Also alot of sites servers I used to frequent are now either not viewable but they are their to others, and then some servers I used to ping in the 80's to are now irate ping wise. I would bet theres a router issue somewhere.
Post edited by Icestar at 1/24/2003 11:26:09 AM

It appears there was some confusion. I wasn't implying that anyone was being disconnected on purpose or being removed.

It was just wacky internet routes disconnecting us and that's why I wanted to move to a new server. We were pretty sure we were going to get owned and just wanted to play somewhere that we had 7.

That's it. Don't read into what I said. I'm thankful TC came and setup his server and that's the true meaning of my post.

Oh wow, one whole day of playing and no problems until us? I guess it's our fault and we were making things up.

Pretty lame accusations people. We aren't in this just to win like you are, we actually are trying to have fun which really isn't possible when teams only care about winning.

Originally posted by: [Geno]Jarlaxle

As TC stated, it was probably a router messup somewhere between me and the SMAK server...same thing with Bong. It was very annoying to be playing and both me and Bong got booted off the server at the exact same times repeatedly. I had never had problems like that prior to the patch, so the patch was looking like the culprit initially. Also Stalls, the patch was just released yesterday...so you had one full day of playing with the patch, that's hardly enough time to be boasting about NEVER encountering a problem.

I don't think the problem was just a link problem with two of our guys. We were also getting that funky buggage, ie our people not able to fire weapons, switch weapons, or open doors, on a fairly regular basis until we switched servers. Anyway, you guys can deny that there was a problem all you want, but the fact it, it was there, so suck it up.

TC mentioned that some of those problems happen if you try to move during the 3 second countdown that was created with the previous patch. I was not aware of this previously.

TWL Global Operations Administrator

Also, it's not like you all (SMAK) were very accomidating.

Numerous times we asked if we could move to your other server or ours and you just responded with, "Guys we've played over 60 games here with no problem" over and over again.

Oh yeah that was really getting to the root of the problem.
Post edited by Creamy Goodness at 1/24/2003 1:20:04 PM

Krib was not an acceptable solution as the T1 it is on was having issues with the eastern have of the country. I know this as I tried to connect and it didn't go.

As for being 'accommodating' ... who about we show Geno's attitude throughout the match in the 70 some odd SS's that were taken prior to TC arrive to which you guys acted like angels afterwards. We accommodate to those that don't act like children.

I thought you were pretty accomidating in regards to restarting the map when we had a bug off drop. However, I'd like to see those screenshots because I don't recall any bad attitude during all of that other than frustration at the buggages.

TWL Global Operations Administrator

<---Still keeps his mouth shut.

No bad attitude Jarjaxle.

There are numerous screen-shots of your clans accusations and everything else. Stalls has every single SS.

Also I went and got TC because I was sick and tired of the accusations , the unsportsmanlike conduct coming from your team.

And SMAK was being accommodating thats why we pulled TC into the match. To stop the lame accusations coming across from your team and get the match settled server and all with aide of a teamwarfare administrator.

Lastly I dunno what you people were doing or how it acted for you since I wasn't on your side.

No we don't just care about winning either. What we do care about is professionalism. We attempted to remain professional even with the constant comments of your team.

Lastly if you think SMAK is doing something with there server. Go speak with BQL. When we went there BQL admins came into our server during matches unannounced. And watched us on many occasions play. They have absolutely no problem what so ever with our server or us.

If any Teamwarfare Administator would like to come in watch our matches on TWL as we extended the same courtesy to BQL after they started doing it. Your more then welcome anytime we have a match on Teamwarfare.
Post edited by Icestar at 1/24/2003 4:09:52 PM

I seriously don't recall accusations, then again I was disconnected repeatedly and could very well have missed them. If anything I recall your accusations that we were manufacturing or faking these bugs/problems. I can say for sure that I spawned twice with issues...one I couldn't move left/right or fire...the other I couldn't zoom or fire... Also, the constant dropping off the server of me and Bong at exactly the same times. Obviously there was a link problem to your server for us, otherwise my ping was around 70-90 to your server which is great.

I still have yet to see screenshots of accusations. I know it wasn't near as bad as you're making it out to be. I know I didn't accuse you of anything myself. As I said before, I thought you were accomidating..everytime we had a problem off drop you restarted the map with no problem.

Post edited by [Geno]Jarlaxle at 1/24/2003 4:15:05 PM

TWL Global Operations Administrator

It wasn't you yourself that made them if I recall exactly. I don't have the SS's exactly. Stalls has the entire zip of the SS's.

I would suggest this subject be dropped by atleast myself and you and allow the teamcaptains and the ladder admins for this ladder to get involved. We are both administrators here for Teamwarfare and carrying this on and on is not the best idea.