Okay...

Well there is an issue that needs to be cleared up. Personally I think its a very cheap way to win, but I did not come here to whine.

If ties count as 1 of 10 rounds, then all someone truly has to do to win is on swat to make it a draw every time. Just hole yourself up till time runs out. Either time needs to be increased majorly, which I do not support, or ties need to not count towards the 10 points, which I personally think would be best.

This game wasn't designed for pussies to hole up and wait the timer out.

This is not a whine, this is a serious problem that needs to be fixed.
Post edited by k3|Rebel at 4/3/2005 9:17:51 PM

ill leave this for the other admins to answer
Post edited by Agent at 4/3/2005 9:20:58 PM

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FwF|Agent|TWL
TeamWarfare SWAT 4 Competition Staff
Email: agent@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #teamwarfare, #twl_swat

I gave my ruling to the leaders of the clan. Please take it up outside of the forums. Feel free to email me or talk to your caln leader. The ruling was fare and it stands. Don't call people names it's a good way to get in trouble.

Originally posted by: k3|Rebel
If ties count as 1 of 10 rounds, then all someone truly has to do to win is on swat to make it a draw every time. Just hole yourself up till time runs out.

Correct. That is all part of strategy. Some teams rush, some teams camp... it is all part of their unique strategy that has both strengths and weaknesses. Each strategy is definitely beatable. If you are having trouble breaking a team's camp, then learn, adapt, and try something new.

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Red Mercury
Raven Shield & SWAT 4 Competition Director
Email: RedMercury@teamwarfare.com

so your saying if on suspect the vip sits in their spawn ALL game and all swat does is camp the doors thats a fair game?

the objective is to get the vip out.. it is not to let time run out.. i agree this rule needs to be addressed. Ties should NOT count towards anybodies win or loss.. They should be nullified and that round replayed...

imagine if your swat and suspect DID make it down to rape your basement.. then the swat team will whine and complain about the suspects spawn killing and you will get disputes there as well..

It is not strategy to have a vip sit in a corner in spawn.. it is called AFK..

Maybe I am one of the few but when I game i go for the objective.. I dont hide like a bitch.. and YES that is exactly what camping in your starting spawn is.. hiding like a bitch..

if you dont have the balls to go for the objective which in the VIP gametype the objective is for VIP to get to the heli and suspects objective is to stop that from happening then you are in fact bitching out..

I vote for a ladder rule vote to have this rule amended.. What do we have to do to get the admins to consider that?

i will talk to the other admins..see what they think...the cussing isnt necessary by the way..as DB said..calling people names just gets u into trouble..

as for the vip sitting in spawn...basically it doesnt help any team..just drags on the match..but then again if the SWAT team is getting raped above...the garage area is more like a safe zone where you can just sit and wait for the right time...every team has their own tactics..i know when im vip i take my time doin anything.

but like i said ill talk to db about this...o and a question for you guys..do you want a VIP and a TDM ladder? or do u only want the TDM?

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FwF|Agent|TWL
TeamWarfare SWAT 4 Competition Staff
Email: agent@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #teamwarfare, #twl_swat

of course the rules arent going to be changed..ur the one who won because of it

crap like that is uncalled for. This is something u guys want adressed so i will talk to the other admins about it..crap like this will not be tolerated.

next person to bring it up will not be heard from for some time
Post edited by Agent at 4/4/2005 6:22:21 AM

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FwF|Agent|TWL
TeamWarfare SWAT 4 Competition Staff
Email: agent@teamwarfare.com
IRC: #teamwarfare, #twl_swat

Originally posted by: Demon1c
of course the rules arent going to be changed..ur the one who won because of it

Uncalled for and and I already said take this private.

Is the team that's complaining the one that got whupped by a chick? =)

HOMOCIDE WITH A SMILE
"Dedication, mysticism, greed,and $300 worth of GR2{Apparently not}.. |RoA| Scrambler"

I love you scram, lol

You should see me naked.

HOMOCIDE WITH A SMILE
"Dedication, mysticism, greed,and $300 worth of GR2{Apparently not}.. |RoA| Scrambler"

hmmmm, how much more is tatooed?

Originally posted by: |RoA|Scrambler
Is the team that's complaining the one that got whupped by a chick? =)

I think this is unnecessary at this point.