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Historical capture recovered from the Wayback Machine · captured 2003-08-01 · 8 posts
We just played a CTF match. Teams were very even and fairly well played. However, we played Kursk and they managed to get the flag and was running (on foot) through a forest half way up the side of the map (not in any clearing) and our whole team was chasing them shooting and MISSING (hard to believe here). I was in a plane bombing over and over again MISSING (still hard to believe) then all of a sudden, he was flying through the air and captured the flag. They claim that they were in a plane. I know I didn't see a plane. No way to swap to a plane in the middle of a forest and our whole team was within site of him when he just suddently seemed to start flying. My only thought is that one of our tanks blew him into the air and then superman took over. This has been done before and witnessed on their server but we didn't think it would be used in a game.

Ok admins, so how the heck do you get a screen shot on a one-time use of the exploit when your whole team is just flat astonished that this guy who was in the forest just a second a go, on the ground, at the base of a bunch (A LOT OF!) trees then suddenly in the air flying too fast for me to catch up (and I was right there bombing him a moment ago).

Ok, I don't want this to be a clan bashing. Their team did play very well and are talented, but this was just blatently obvious. Even their own team is not going to be able to say for sure that they guy cheated since most of them weren't nearby.

One last issue of proof. We had one guy at their base sniping. He saw the guy parachute down and there was NO PLANE ghosting down to be seen when he came in. And on my pass over (litterally 1 second after "...caputred the flag" their plane was sitting on the runway ready to take off.

CTF needs suspended till this is corrected.

This isn't really the place for this, is it?

Anyway, your case would be a lot easier to believe if you kept the one exploit accusation. Do you actually think he had some kind of hack that made you miss him? I don't think I've heard of a "always miss me" hack in any game, bullet collisions are decidedly server side.

"Proving" the superman thing does sound hellish, but you can't really blame the TWL admins for not just taking people's words for it.
The missing thing is understandable cuz he kept jumping. Just really good at jumping cuz we all know that that 30MM shell that landed 2 inches below your feet cuz you just happened to jump can't hurt you. The missing I don't care about. Its the rest. The missing just indicates that we had a lot of people on his tail and suddenly he was in the air.

We've played TWL matches since BF came out. Never "accuesed" anyone of anything and we were pretty low on the totem pole when all was said and done. This is not an accusation exactly just that since this exploit exists, there is no way to prove that it is not used just cuz you wern't close enough to see it used and/or didn't get a screen shot of it.

I am not asking for TWL to take anyone's word. We lost. That's a fact. But I don't feel good playing in the league using a game that has an issue like this.
get serveral screenshots of one single incident and it will be proof. all you do is spam the print screen button. as he moves on his cheat, you will copy it in a slide show effect, pic the best pictures for the admin and you have actual proof... one pic of a guy in the air means nothing as he *could* have been shot up by a tank or artillary shell...

well.. thats my suggestion anyway
Post edited by Mortis at 7/10/2003 2:24:27 AM
How can we make a pic when every1 is trying to get the flag back??!?!
if they are cheating.... would you be more concerened about getting the flag back.. or getting them thrown of the ladder/league?? i would definatly go for the latter. if you can prove they are cheating... you will get the forfeit win anyway.. this isnt about winning though, its about stopping cheating which is more important than winning
Originally posted by: malphigian


This isn't really the place for this, is it?


Amen


Grassy (WD)
C0-Commander Wild-Diamonds
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Originally posted by: zephyre

We just played a CTF match. Teams were very even and fairly well played. However, we played Kursk and they managed to get the flag and was running (on foot) through a forest half way up the side of the map (not in any clearing) and our whole team was chasing them shooting and MISSING (hard to believe here). I was in a plane bombing over and over again MISSING (still hard to believe) then all of a sudden, he was flying through the air and captured the flag. They claim that they were in a plane. I know I didn't see a plane. No way to swap to a plane in the middle of a forest and our whole team was within site of him when he just suddently seemed to start flying. My only thought is that one of our tanks blew him into the air and then superman took over. This has been done before and witnessed on their server but we didn't think it would be used in a game.

Ok admins, so how the heck do you get a screen shot on a one-time use of the exploit when your whole team is just flat astonished that this guy who was in the forest just a second a go, on the ground, at the base of a bunch (A LOT OF!) trees then suddenly in the air flying too fast for me to catch up (and I was right there bombing him a moment ago).

Ok, I don't want this to be a clan bashing. Their team did play very well and are talented, but this was just blatently obvious. Even their own team is not going to be able to say for sure that they guy cheated since most of them weren't nearby.

One last issue of proof. We had one guy at their base sniping. He saw the guy parachute down and there was NO PLANE ghosting down to be seen when he came in. And on my pass over (litterally 1 second after "...caputred the flag" their plane was sitting on the runway ready to take off.

CTF needs suspended till this is corrected.



Some time today I want you to get in touch with me on irc. We will go into your server and you can show me exactly where you were and where the flag was when he "started flying"

I have been over Kursk a few times and for the life of me cannot find a spot for this exploit.

Keeper

PS...Next time use the match dispute function built into the site. If you are going to dispute a match that is the way to do it. You do NOT bring it to the public forums.

PPS...You either need to report the loss or dispute it. But without any proof a dispute is pretty much a waste of time.

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