BAse raping camping?

I have yet to find a post or answer to a question I have had and seen in the past. Is base raping allowed over non takable flags, and what are the rules about someone bringing a tank into the hangars, repair pads and sitting in them to rack the kills till there team gets all the flags......I could use an honest answer as our first DC match is coming soon and I would like to be well informed on this matter

the 1.4 patch is supposed to remove the hanger camping thing... hopefully. however, as far as matches go, you must deal with whatever is thrown at you.

sorry... i get the feeling that this isn't quite what you were looking for, and for the most part i agree with ya, but rules against certain tactics, if allowed by the game, aren't feasable.

jmho.

In matches its all legal...Cheap as hell but still a "tactic"

1.4 should fix the hanger camping issue. But I doubt it will solve the repair pad that does the same thing on some maps.

Originally posted by: Keeper-

In matches its all legal...Cheap as hell but still a "tactic"

1.4 should fix the hanger camping issue. But I doubt it will solve the repair pad that does the same thing on some maps.

the repair isn't a problem you can actually get the tank from behind on that

In DC the tanks don't repair in the Hanger!

Thankyou for the fast replies everyone....I was more concerned as to the rule......since we have a match coming up real soon. Personally as much as I hate the hangar campers and all I have my ways of detering them with minimal losses to my own team ;-)

yea but your match is against our team! And I tend to bend the rules as needed to assure my teams victory! ;D

j/k naturally, lookin forward to the match!

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Originally posted by: Krazyivan

In DC the tanks don't repair in the Hanger!

For extolling the virtues of DC you should taken out back, beaten like a diseased, mangy dog, then repeatedly shot in the genitals with a nailgun.

If you don't want to be hangar camped, I'd suggest you employ your mines, or perhaps coordinate your team so that no open tanks are left open at your base. People who can't do that have lucked out, as EA/DICE fears/removes whatever they don't understand or didn't intend. Maybe we should take out grenades too. Those are pretty cheap.

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Fenrir is just mad, hangar camping is his main job...

come on sloopy

Someone once said to me "If you aren't spawn camping, you aren't winning"

Not always true but still

too bad no one here plays DC because thats a FIXED issue in dc now. There are no longer any hangers that fix tanks.

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You're missing the point...there's nothing to fix. The hangar repairing tanks is not a bug, it's a tactical consideration, and I can assure you it's difficult to stay alive even inside the hangar with the whole team after you. If someone manages to stay alive in that hangar and cause enough damage and kill enough people for you to call him "gay," then he can sure as hell own you on any other part of the battlefield.

Now, that's not me, as I can't hangar camp for shit. I just like jacking tanks and making my tankers happy by keeping their planes grounded.

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Don't come to my server then. I see that as just plain stupid to put your tanks in the other person's hangar. The object of the game is to take flags not spawn camp the ther person's main spawn. Just my opinion but it takes the fun out of the game when you spawn and die before taking a step because of some spawn camper.

i think it was said best as "cheap as hell" cause it is..

but still a tac non the less... judge of character??

At some point... you must spawn peeps in the game.. if your lucky....that usually means..u got them pinned...

Originally posted by: ybnorml

Don't come to my server then. I see that as just plain stupid to put your tanks in the other person's hangar. The object of the game is to take flags not spawn camp the ther person's main spawn. Just my opinion but it takes the fun out of the game when you spawn and die before taking a step because of some spawn camper.

regardless of the hanger issue (only an issue on some maps) if your team holds all the flags, what are you going to do? Sit back and let the other team regroup at their base and come storming out in tanks, planes and jeeps? Hell no, get in there and destroy them as they spawn. Destroy their tanks, destroy their planes. Keep them pinned down and watch the tickets go down.

This game isn't about 'taking flags' its about making the other team's tickets go down.

my opinion is you got to do what it takes to win

if this menas hanger camping, then there is nothing wrong with it. i personnally try not to unless i HAVE to to win... but thats just me...
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Originally posted by: -]D2D[-FeNriR

You're missing the point...there's nothing to fix. The hangar repairing tanks is not a bug, it's a tactical consideration, and I can assure you it's difficult to stay alive even inside the hangar with the whole team after you. If someone manages to stay alive in that hangar and cause enough damage and kill enough people for you to call him "gay," then he can sure as hell own you on any other part of the battlefield.

Now, that's not me, as I can't hangar camp for shit. I just like jacking tanks and making my tankers happy by keeping their planes grounded.

I think you are missing the point a little The 'theory' behind repair pads, and hangar repairing, is to simulate a repair station as it existed in bf1942, ie, the engineering corps. Imagine little green men rushing out to repair your vehicle as you sit on the pad/hanger. Now, imagine those little green men repairing an ENEMIES vehicle, as their raping your base. Now that sounds a little silly.

Vehicle repairs should NOT work in enemy hangars/repair pads. If it was intended to be that way, then it was a bad decision. This is why EA/DICE is 'fixing' it (they themselves use the term 'fix' in the 1.4 announcements).

You cant be serious if you think its harder to sit in a hangar, then it would be to roll through their base raping them. Any skilless noob can sit in a hangar and spam away

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Indica, on EA western front 021, sure, but try that in a match. In a match, the longer you sit still, the easier you are to kill.. Hangar camping=sitting still.

My favorite means of removing hangar campers is to throw expacks along the side of the hangar the tank is on from the outside, and blast him away. (for some reason the concussion goes thru the hangar walls and kills the tank, and it isnt hard to trick a tank along a side wall.)

;-) morgan

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but smart hanger camper would leave the back of his tank agianst a wall and have open season. We all know front and side hits will take what 1/2 health at most. All the while the tank is getting healed simultaneously. It takes bout 3 or 4 of your guys as Anti-Tanks to take out a guy and even so against a very good tanker thats even tough.

Its a cheap but effective tactic, I for one am glad its being taken care of in 1.4.

Anyways in a main spawn base (real life ww2 time) a guy stealin a tank and killin everyone is just obsurd. but of course its a game but not real life.

Of course if I had my way I would make a perimeter around a main base and have enemy troops are tanks suffer damage once they breached that perimeter (as if they were out of the games boundaries). but thats if I had my way =)

Originally posted by: indica

yea but your match is against our team! And I tend to bend the rules as needed to assure my teams victory! ;D

j/k naturally, lookin forward to the match!

I am looking forward to that match as well. Just don't get too cocky out there as we might sneak up and bite you BUhahahaha

Goodluck tonight

regardless of the hanger issue (only an issue on some maps) if your team holds all the flags, what are you going to do? Sit back and let the other team regroup at their base and come storming out in tanks, planes and jeeps? Hell no, get in there and destroy them as they spawn. Destroy their tanks, destroy their planes. Keep them pinned down and watch the tickets go down.

This game isn't about 'taking flags' its about making the other team's tickets go down.

Well on our server base raping is not allowed as we try to make the game as fun for all and as original in "war" so if all the flags are ours we do not hit the main base, we let them regroup and when they come out to take the flags back. The enemy is met with an stern organized resistance. If they make it to a flag, Congrats.......

If you are going for realism....enemies would not be repaired while killing your allies, and A/C (aircraft) would never be able to hover over an airfield or main base.......they would not get to the main to do that......unless that field was already being overtaken in a MAJOR air offense. Stated prior it truly is no fun to spawn into the game, multiple times only to die before you can even twist your hip to run. Lame if you ask me.

Nothing I love more about this game is a good strategic and hard fought battle for the flags that are takable. the fight over those flags was what this game was designed for and what I believe makes it most enjoyable whether I win or lose, at that point this game rocks!!!!!!
Post edited by Onwego at 5/25/2003 12:36:13 PM

Originally posted by: -]D2D[-FeNriR

Originally posted by: Krazyivan

In DC the tanks don't repair in the Hanger!

For extolling the virtues of DC you should taken out back, beaten like a diseased, mangy dog, then repeatedly shot in the genitals with a nailgun.

Ewwww kinky

Originally posted by: Maherdogg



i dont need to post my record...we're CAL champs

YAAAAAAAAY I GOT MAIL!

Originally posted by: GarathK

Someone once said to me "If you aren't spawn camping, you aren't winning"

Not always true but still

Sounds like another famous quote from The Choads!
...and you almost had it its..
"If your not spawn camping ur not trying!"

Originally posted by: Maherdogg



i dont need to post my record...we're CAL champs

YAAAAAAAAY I GOT MAIL!

seriously tho....Every game ive played or ever will play is going to have both Spawn(hanger)camping and base raping.
Unless you remove bases and spawn points from a game then ur not going to get rid of this "problem".Im willing to bet that wont happen EVAAAR!
ITS A PART OF THE GAME!!!!
That I feel is no way a threat to the integrity of this or any game!

Agreed, I understand why pub server's disallow it, but matches are a bird of a different feather..

both are a part of the game, and will always be there... When all of the spawns are held by your team, what better what to stop them from being taken than to pound the only place that someone can come from to take them? Is it fun to be killed as soon as you spawn, no... Is it a sound tactic, yes... folk scream and whine on servers when it happens... stop and figure out a way to get out if possible, or just take your lumps and figure out how not to get in that position again for the next game.

What gets me though is, first off a good player can destroy someone hanger camping. Its as easy as getting 2 engies into a APC and driving it straight into him, they get out lay xpacks and pop him, its not a big problem for half decent players.

But base raping? First of all to even get in the position to where you can base rape means you have applied great tactics and positioned your enemy between a rock and a hardplace (Kharkov). And not letting your enemy leave the base is the best thing you can do, this doesnt mean laying x packs in every spawnable llocation and detting them, but it does mean not letting them get a flag by not even letting them get momentum, I.E. Take Off (they drop at a back flag) so you watch the runway, get a Jeep (potential flag grey out problem).

So people that bitch about the instance in which i speak, are simply getting owned and frustrated. I sure as shit dont let enemies out of there base if i get our guys to pin em, its common sense.

But whatever, 1.4 will still keep the annoyances of the occasional low skill camper from being a burden anymore, still doesnt warrant much more of a thought then, hey come here get in apc blow him up.

First off......got my first match...good fighting on both ends....but ultimately we were spawn camped and I think it was bullshit to have just spawned and not even get control of your charector to turn his/her body only to be trying to spawn again...sorry my opinion is by allowing spawn camping takes out the fun totally and there is no strategy to spawn camping a base so if your looking for realism this is not the game for it since spawn camping is allowed. I am not complaining about a loss I am complaining about not being able to have any fun competatively while never moving a foot without dying and waiting to spawn again.

I would say the reason you got in that predicament was due to the other team either out-stratting you, out-skilling you, or both.

We played AEM on Kursk, and that cockmonkey Gatz was throwing expacks in the house and blasting us as we spawned. He got me once or twice like that, then i pistoled him in the skull and moved on. We lost, we got out-stratted and out-skilled in that match, and that's what happened.

Life goes on, you certainly cant expect them to sit someone and wait for you to try and kill them, can you?

LMMFAO "cockmonkey" that is the first time I ever heard that LMAO.

'if your not hanger camping, your not trying'

crying like a bitch, as i blow away your stupid little airplanes? boo'fuckin'hoo! calling me names like 'cheap whore' and 'fuckin asshole'? thanks for the compliments. leaving the server so soon? buh-bye! kicking me from the server? One word... pussy!

Ive perfected the art of hanger camping/spawn camping, and im damn proud of it. you clowns can cry all day, but Im still going to make you my 'hanger bitch', and laugh like a mother-fucker!

just take it as a sign of my respect for you... or just 'take it'.

IMHO, if your being shot to pieces in your own place then nobody stayed back to defend your main base, which unfortunately can happen in pubs, defense can be boring no doubt. The second is that you are spawning and not picking the approcriate loadout to help your team out of this jam. The third is nobody spawned on ships and therefore your getting the hell beat out of you when somebody should just grab a sub and sink the prick so your team can breathe.

I really cant see this happening in a match, unless your team makes some really bad judgements.

And yeah being able to repair at other teams repair pad is not right plain and simple.

This is one hairy assed and angry beaver!!

Originally posted by: Choad

'if your not hanger camping, your not trying'

crying like a bitch, as i blow away your stupid little airplanes? boo'fuckin'hoo! calling me names like 'cheap whore' and 'fuckin asshole'? thanks for the compliments. leaving the server so soon? buh-bye! kicking me from the server? One word... pussy!

Ive perfected the art of hanger camping/spawn camping, and im damn proud of it. you clowns can cry all day, but Im still going to make you my 'hanger bitch', and laugh like a mother-fucker!

just take it as a sign of my respect for you... or just 'take it'.

I knew it was only a matter of time b4 we were blessed with a post from choad.

you can't honestly expect a team to allow you out of your spawn if they've beaten you back into it???? what do you want them to do? sit around and wait for you to cap a few flags again?? if you've lost all of you spawn points but your original, then you SHOULD be spawn camped. the only viable option that i can see against this is removing all un-cappable spawn points. that way, if you've been completely annihlated you don't have to sit through the frustration of getting base-camped...you just lose right then and there.