No show in 6v6 invitationnal

Just want to know what is going on and what is happening with Marion's Brigade and the UN teams. They are part of our division and in 2 matches, they are both "no show", and we are suppose to "fight" the UN this week.

If both are no show, it means that our division becomes a 4 team division only ...

Just want to know .. thanks
Major {325th}Psychosis
XO 325th AIR

If tehy drop the remaining matches they have get treated as no-shows on a week-by-week basis.

psicotic1
Teamwarfare Senior Operations Staff

Thanks for the infos
Major {325th}Psychosis
XO 325th AIR

wow, lucky 325th, they get two free wins

I doubt they feel lucky...

This is a big problem that I discussed last night with Terror and Maddog in MIRC. Here is a copy of the log and you can see that there is really only one "fair" way to score this in my opinion: http://www.ten-aa.net/files/twlleage.zip




[t]ERRORIST [e]LIMINATION [n]ETWORK http://www.ten-aa.net & #ten-aa on gamesnet MIRC

My irc log is somewhat long, but overall I think informative.




[t]ERRORIST [e]LIMINATION [n]ETWORK http://www.ten-aa.net & #ten-aa on gamesnet MIRC

Okay folks, the system is set up the same as OGL and the same as CAL's system.It is very similar to the Peterson Point Sytem used in many professional sports.

First, your rounds won/lost has no bering at all until you get to the playoffs and then only if two teams are tied or in determining homefield adavantage. At which point, it is actually your win percentage that counts. And that percentage is based on the amount of TOTAL ROUNDS WON/TOTAL ROUNDS PLAYED.

Yes, who advances is most definetly tied to your round won/lost. While the idea of giving the team all 12 rounds may sound logical, its not. I'll explain:

The system is based on the assumption that ALL teams will play the SAME number of total rounds. It's your rounds won/lost percentage that determines certain things. Now, for the sake of arguement, lets say the season consists of a total 100 rounds. Now, using the suggestion of giving teams the full twelve rounds this is the scenario:

Team A plays all 100 and wins 75, there win percentage is 75%. After 88 rounds Team B has won 65 rounds. On their last match the other team no shows. Using the 'gimme' method
Team B's win percentage shows as 77% (65 actual rounds + 12 gimme rounds divided by 88 total rounds played + 12 gimme rounds played). Without the 'gimme' method their win average is only 73% (65 actual rounds won divided by 88 actual rounds played ). Now, if you were Team A how would you feel? Team B just advanced ahead of you even though you actually have a better win percentage.Why? Because we gave the other team 12 free rounds for a match they never played.

Another example:

Goof Troop joins the league. They win 1/2 of their matches the first half of the season. Season is a total of 12 weeks. Their win record is 50%. Next half of the season all the teams they are scheduled to play quit. Under the gimme method Goof Troop's final win percentage is 75% because we gave them the last 6 weeks worth of rounds when, in reality, they only won 50% of the amtches they played. Under the 'gimme' method you just sent a team that sucks to the playoffs.

Yeah, its possible that Goof Troop may have won all 12 rounds in each of those last 6 weeks, its also HIGHLY PROBABLE they could have lost all 12.

This isn't based on probabilities, its based on facts.




Post edited by psicotic1 at 6/4/2003 12:08:37 PM

psicotic1
Teamwarfare Senior Operations Staff

Psi, im kinda confused :??

Well,

the only thing u can do is " take " TIKI out of the league, not technically .. but take all points they have gained away ... and teams that got them agansted them. Then the week the team was supposed to play them they play no one, I mean ..


If your saying whats true, Tiki would get wins even though they dont play?

I prolly aint making sence .. im confused .. heh, gotta be one of the worst times to leave

Originally posted by: [2nd]Cunniebe

Psi, im kinda confused :??

Well,

the only thing u can do is " take " TIKI out of the league, not technically .. but take all points they have gained away ... and teams that got them agansted them. Then the week the team was supposed to play them they play no one, I mean ..


If your saying whats true, Tiki would get wins even though they dont play?

I prolly aint making sence .. im confused .. heh, gotta be one of the worst times to leave

Yeah, you're confused

TIKI gets nothing. The way your talking about is actually teh best way, but requires going in and doing alot of manual editing. They already played certain teams, matches for the entire season have already ben inputed. We would have to go back in a redo the whole thing. Plus, I don't like taking away points from people for amtch that wasa ctually played, they earned those points.

Once again- your percentage is based on the ACTUAL amount of rounds played. If you play 100 rounds,its based on 100. If you only play 75, then its based on 75. If a team you are scheduled to play no-shows you get the win for that match in you won/loss record, but no rounds won. The no-show team gets nothing but a no-show mark

That is why it is important to play all the rounds and record them as such.
Post edited by psicotic1 at 6/4/2003 12:14:08 PM

psicotic1
Teamwarfare Senior Operations Staff

I was leaning towards giving points for the no shows, however after all the talk, and hearing how things were handled the first league season where they had these issues, looks like Psi has a good idea of what to do. I am going to concentrate on trying to figure out how to beat Red Dawn and ST-6 and worry about the playoffs then. If I can not beat at least one of them, playoffs is a no brainer because we will not be in them!