Reschedule my foot

Ok, first off, this is not directed to anyone in particular and any squad in particular. It's obvious that rescheduling has become such a big issue that a rule has been made to allow it. Here is my opinion. Do not flame me, we can all be mature about it:

I am very upset with the new rule that allows teams to reschedule whenever they want. Why reschedule? If you challenged a team or picked the dates you picked, why should the other team have to suffer because you couldn't get your stuff together. Don't challenge or accept challenges if you know you can't make them. Even if you know you can't make it, what's the big deal about taking a llama, I mean it's just a number in parenthesis. In Global Ops my clan never showed up. But rescheduling never even came to my mind. Instead I showed up with 3 other guys and duked it out 4v7. We never won or ever got close to winning, but there was no shame in our loss as we knew we tried our best with what we had and had failed. It's just an online game for pete's sake, nobody is going to make fun of you at school (or at work for some) if you lose or forfeit a match. At least I know I won't. I've heard from other teams "Hey man, we have lives, we don't dedicate ourselves to playing this game, we have better things to do". Then what the heck did you sign up on a ladder for? We all have lives, so more than others. I've got teammates who have girlfriends and jobs and go to parties and do whatever they do, but somehow they make it to the matches. Theres nothing that makes me as angry as pulling out 6 teammates from their lives and having them show up for a reschedule. This is just my 2 cents. Food for thought. I don't expect anything to change but at least I'll know my opinion is out there. Thanks for reading-

Again: This isn't directed to any squad in particular, there have been about 4 or 5 occasions where events descripted above have happened. I'm sure they won't be the last. So don't hold a grudge, because I'm not.
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ok maxx heres the deal.... if a hurricane happens to rip apart half of your squads homes, than it isnt very cool that they also lose a match that they werent even able to play in.

Would you like to get a free win for this? I mean it would make u guys a whole lot better because u can beat ppl that arent even able to play.

The rule will not change, if u cant win a game by actually playing it then you shouldnt be here at all. Your post irritates me very much despite the fact that ur trying not to direct it at me.

Im sorry for sounding so disgruntled but you need to understand that we make these rules for a purpose. Also we are only allowed one reschedule, dont sweat it just gimme a date.
Post edited by iGoat at 10/1/2002 8:56:35 PM

[FR]iGoat
Teamwarfare America's Army Ladder Admin

Umm,that only pertained to the first two days after the new rules came out.As of now it requires an agreement on the part of both teams.

Originally posted by: psicotic1



Matches scheduled for today or tommorow can either be played under the new rules or rescheduled. This is to give teams the opportunity to adjust their strategies.
RESCHEDULING WILL NOT REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT ON THE PART OF BOTH TEAMS.IF ONE TEAM WISHES TO RESCHEDULE THE MATCH WILL BE RESCHEDULED OR THE MATCH KILLED.

The rescheduling of matches set for after tommorrow will require an agreement on both sides.

Post edited by psicotic1 at 10/1/2002 8:59:08 PM

Teamwarfare America's Army Lead Admin
Teamwarfare MW4 Ladder Admin

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ok that's fine... if you want De... ill fight you by myself.. i hope you are happy

this hurricane is very gay


edit: plz change the rules then psi, as of now they state the following

Rescheduling

Should a match require rescheduling, the new match time should be within 3 days of the original match time. Matches can only be rescheduled once.


Post edited by iGoat at 10/1/2002 9:01:55 PM

[FR]iGoat
Teamwarfare America's Army Ladder Admin

Well u have point there. Totaly unfair to ppl that did put something aside to show up & not only to them but to those that didn't have notin impotrant to do in real life but were looking forward to war.
For sum that expect to have that kind of fun at evenin noshow is as same as if they come to cinema & doorman says to come see movie other time - dissapointment occour afta that.

Not that score will make ones that show to have fun but some kind of punishment for noshow will stop from reschedule to become a habbit.

the war is set for is set at the end of the week and we challenged 2 days ago

[FR]iGoat
Teamwarfare America's Army Ladder Admin

Chill. The rules say you can rechedule once and it should be within three days.

There is also a rule about inactivity. If you are inactive (in other words,you haven't actually played a match) for three weeks,you gotta go. This to prevent having one only one team show up and the match ending in a forfeit.

Try to understan,the first month is always bumpy.Until we know who is and isn't playing you are going to get alot of no shows.Once the teams that are inactive or don't have the required number of members are removed you will see a significant drop in the no-shows.

And remember,it takes an agreement to reschedule.If you'd rather not take a forfeit win,tell an admin,we can kill the match and its like it never happened
Post edited by psicotic1 at 10/1/2002 9:08:58 PM

Teamwarfare America's Army Lead Admin
Teamwarfare MW4 Ladder Admin

i dont understand the second part of ur post....

are we inactive?

can u come in irc to explain this a lil better psi?

edit: btw psi, im an admin
Post edited by iGoat at 10/1/2002 9:10:08 PM

[FR]iGoat
Teamwarfare America's Army Ladder Admin

One thing confuse me on forefits i read about on these forums (this not 1st post about that so i'm curious).
If i challange some team i'm normaly aloved to challange due to my ranking on ladder, can they choose not to play?

On ladders on CB that is an option, in some real life competitions like boxing that option exist & i'd like to know what's rule about that here before my squad starts playin so there is no dispute later on?

to my understanding they have to accept if they are being attacked, unless they are on rest or are already engaged in a scheduled war.

if they dont accept (dont respond) i think they forfeit

[FR]iGoat
Teamwarfare America's Army Ladder Admin

Well than there will be a lot of forfiets

If only by beein challanged is what obligate other team to play on some day than expect lot's of wins by noshow.

Not sayin that thats bad just asked & thx for clearing it up...

the defender gets to choose 2 dates, then the attacker chooses one of the 2 dates

that is how ti works

[FR]iGoat
Teamwarfare America's Army Ladder Admin

Originally posted by: iGoat


edit: btw psi, im an admin

You are?!?! Damn why didn't anyone tell me.

It was a general statement directed to [DE]

No,you're not inactive.Only teams that have not had a match in three weeks (for whatever reason) are considered inactive.

CyClops-The purpose of a ladder is not to decline a match.So,what you are saying is that if I am #1 #2 or #3 I can just sit there and deny challenges to my spot? Hmmmm,let me think about that.

Nope not gonna happen here.

Teams want to consistently no-show,that's fine with me. In three weeks they'll be a permanent no-show.
Post edited by psicotic1 at 10/1/2002 10:02:34 PM

Teamwarfare America's Army Lead Admin
Teamwarfare MW4 Ladder Admin

Thanks for taking it personally when I made it specifically clear that this wasn't the first time it happened. Every team weve played or were supposed to play (minus CAG-14) have tried or have rescheduled. This is outside of TWL too. Like I said, about 4/5 of our matches have been rescheduled. Why do you think I wrote 2 paragraphs saying how it wasn't directed to anyone specifically. Sheesh, some people.

EDIT: I read psicotics post over. I see now that it takes agreement on both sides with the new rules (I had it backwards lol), but still, rescheduling angers me none-the-less!
Post edited by [De]MaxX at 10/2/2002 12:21:51 AM

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Ok how about this.. being yanked around on both the Team Combat and Objective ladders.. I'm about to ask for the matches to be killed.. like the Team Combat one.. they want to schedule a time on two separate days.. cant play at 8pm in the evening the other doesnt want to play on either of the days they gave us to choose from.. but want instead to play us at the time we have another match. I dont mind playing two matches back to back.. but not two at once. uhg HELP PSI MAKE THEM ANSWER QUESTIONS I HAVE POSTED OR KILL MATCH PLS. I dont want a forfeit win I want a response or a killed match. *sigh* I think i vented,.. ty.


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I still think this is in the testing phase. Every match we have had has had problems from rescheduling, to teams showing up with less people than agreed upon, to matches taking over an hour to start. As for teams saying they have lives outside of this game I think they are just letting the other team know that scheduling a match might be hard because of outside influences. Just relax and work with it, lets not get mad.

Originally posted by: psicotic1


CyClops-The purpose of a ladder is not to decline a match.So,what you are saying is that if I am #1 #2 or #3 I can just sit there and deny challenges to my spot? Hmmmm,let me think about that.

Nope not gonna happen here.

Teams want to consistently no-show,that's fine with me. In three weeks they'll be a permanent no-show.

Nope thats not how it goes...did u ever play anything as member on Clan Base? Teamwarfare is good but CB has long history that gave as result exelent rules.

Now team that don't play wars but decline them loses score for inactivity & if they accept only challanges from weak clans they have no points, they even loose points if low ranked clan plays close match with them no matter they won.

On ur ladder u have rule that says only top clans will be able to challange 1st one & if he kept declinin for purpose of stayin on top he lose score for inactive penalty.

Also if u clan decline challange on CB it goes to it's record that all see & noone wanna be considered coward so only ppl wiv good reson decline some matches but that posabbility is not nececary. I'm not complainin man just discusin things so maybe u get out soome good ideas from ppl included in discusion...