2nd Clarification

When does team killing count?

The rules only make this clear in an overtime match, but not in a regular game. I've always seen it played where team killing does not count in a regular match, unless of course it was the last man.

This provides an out for someone fixing to become toast. All they have to do is drop a grenade just before they get over run and then that kill is lost.

Or picture a sniper watching his comrade from a distance and sees a grenade land at his buddies feet and decides to cap him in the head to save that kill.

Most team kills are purely accidents, but without penalty. Is this by design?

The question:
Do team kills count in regular matches as a kill for the enemy?

Attrition has bring out a good point. I think it should count on every game. Unfortunately it is not stated clearly in the rules. There are times when there is a tk and when the game ended, the screen says "draw" or whaterver without taking account the tk that has happened. I think its unfair to the opposing team since the other team that does the tk is actually short of one because of the tk. Unfortunately its hard for the opposing team to defend his case because of GR final screen and also the rules on this is not stated clearly.

All the games I have played tks count as an enemy kill. They rarely happen, but when they do I find that the game is played on as if the enemy scored a point. I have never seen a tk on purpose and wouldn't that fall under the Sportsmanship rule?

I've played in many a game where the opposing team has killed themselves or a fellow player with a stupid nade or rocket and it has always counted against them.

Teamkills in regular matches and in overtime are counted against you.

The Debrief screen at the end of each round should be taken to show who the winner of the round was, either Win, Lose, Draw - if a draw then the round goes to OT.




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> The Debrief screen at the end of each round should be taken to show who the winner of the round was, either Win, Lose, Draw

The debrief screen doesnt count the tk. I remember it happened twice. the other team tked. We camped cause we taught its a draw. But alas, the debrief screen say we lost.

OK your statement is not quite as confusing as the rules, but still leaves a bit of misunderstanding.

You said "Teamkills in regular matches and in overtime are counted against you."

You said "The debrief screen will show who the winner is" but are wrong "it doesn't count team kills against anyone it only keeps up with them for you."

My question is "Do TKs count against a team the same as if an enemy had made the kill, regardless of what the debrief screen displays?"

Sorry, my last statement about the debrief screen was misleading - TK's DO count in regular matches as a kill for the enemy. Just as they do in OT.

Thats how i've always played it and so have all the teams I've played with and against.

So if it was 2v2 left near the end of the match and it was going into OT, then if you accidentaly killed yourself or a team mate, then it's 1v2 and as such you'd lose the round.

Does that help?



Post edited by Beaver at 7/31/2003 4:13:38 PM

Hum heres one for you.
What if the oposing team allowed you to play short and they had a TK before match end. Would You lose because you started short, win becasue they had a TK or would it be a draw because the game ended with the same number of players. LOL! Don't anser to quick, its a serious question.

Why not have a simple rule that says who ever has the most people at the end of a match wins. PERIOD!? That way if you play short you start out with a defecit of 1 and don't have to beg to play.

mmm. /Beaver rubs chin.

Interesting point - I guess i'll need to think about that.

lol- Its best the admin settle this now because in my experience all hypothetical problems can and will happen. Especially when I always kill my own team on accident. So Mr. Admin...Sir can we please see something clear in writting (that dummies like me can read and understand)at your earliest convience so we can refer back to the rules page when problems of this nature arise.

Thank you Psy

PS: In my humble opinion if a team is short (only 3 players)that should count for 1 kill for team that carries the full four members. Otherwise the short team acually has a slight advantage.
Post edited by SAF_Psychdlc at 8/1/2003 6:44:59 PM

I've thought about it all night and this morning, and here's my take on it.

Here goes:

If a Team plays short (i.e. less than the minimum of 4), then that would be an automatic kill to the opposition, based on the number of short players.

Therefore, the team with the most number of players alive at the end of each round is the winner of that round.

Team Kills will count in normal rounds as they do in OT, in that a TK will be seen to be the same as if the squad member was killed by the opposition.


Does that make it clear?
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