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Pandemic programmers or developers please respond!!

Historical capture recovered from the Wayback Machine · captured 2005-03-21 · 16 posts
Hi. Any Pandemic programmers or developers, I need your expertise, please. First off let me say I think SWBF is a fantastic game. Cheers to all of you. Also let me thank you in advance for any assistance you give me, it is much appreciated! :-} That being said lets get down to bussiness shall we?

This is in regard to Star Wars Battlefront for the P.C. with 1.2 patch enabled.


Star Wars Battlefront for the P.C. has an auto-aim/aim-helper when used with a gamepad or joystick. Correct?

The aim helper feature is apparent only when using ANY kind of gamepad in congunction with specific character classes in SWBF. (Ex. any class WITHOUT a splash damage weapon.)

There is no aim helper feature for ANY class whan using a keyboard & mouse. Also as I said, the aim helper feature does not apply when using a gamepad/joystick with any charater class WITH a splash damage weapon.

I would PLEASE like to know why the aim helper was implemented in SWBF only with a gamepad in conjunction with specific character classes?

Because of the specific way the aim-helper was implemented into the game I'm led to believe that it was put there as compensation if you use a gamepad/joystick as opposed to a keyboard & mouse.

I NEED to know if the aim-helper was included for a reason.
If indeed it was included to compensate for the difference between a keyboard and mouse & a gamepad.
Or if it was just a mistake or oversight.

There is also a command line that can be used to disable the aim-helper for a gamepad. It is not endorsed by either Pandemic or Lucas Arts.
The command line is:
The command is /noaim and have to be added in the APP_COMMAND_LINE_BASIC on the file "battlefront server.ini", contained in the root Dedicated Server Folder.

I have played on servers that have the aim-feature both turned on and off.
When the no aim command is implemented on a server it completly negates the aim-helper feature that is originally in SWBF for a gamepad.

Personally I think that if the aim-helper is turned off & you use a gamepad than any of the non-splash damage classes are at a distinct disadvantage.
Which is why I believe the aim-helper was intentional.

Basically I just need a difinitave answer as to wether the aim-helper is intentional or otherwise. If it is considered a "cheat" by Pandemic or not.

Is the game MEANT to be played with the aim-helper & why?

Thank you VERY very much.

Sincerly,
An active & concerned member of the SWBF community

Dude, they never respond. Even on the Lucas Arts boards.
yeah, no kidding. TWL used to have a Pandemic person for the SWB ladder...but he has vanished! or maybe he still lurks around...keeping a watchful eye on us all and just never says anything!
Well I sure wish they would!
Seriously, What can be done to get a response?
I've done everything short of going to L.A. & holding them hostage!
I've posted on every message board I can find, but they've quickly developed a reputation for not responding except through their patches.
If someone has personal e-mail addresses, that might work, otherwise......
remeber that Battlefront is a port over from a console version. THerefore the code was probably still in the game for the PC version. Whenever a gamepad is in it recognizes the controller and uses the code. Consoles generally have aim helpers because it isnt as easy as using a mouse to aim.
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It doesn't matter what you think talking to the Pandemic people will accomplish, the auto-aim will stay removed as long as I have the will to fight. I can and do use the soldier with a mouse. I use my OWN skill and prowess to kill with him, not the computer. If the auto-aim is ever comes back then I will push to have completely boted matches. Let the computer do all the matches for you, you don't want to take the time to aim so why even play? Video game compitions are about skill, not prerendered actions. Aim your pistol, not let the computer aim for you.
All of my responces to that can be found here:
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144946
I don't think you understand. I don't care about what Pandemic said to you over a so called telephone call. I don't care that you have no idea what code is. If Pandemic wants us to use auto aim then they are the ones at fault, it is an unfair advantage. Look at the difference between keyboard/mouse players and gamepaders, it's most certainly not a balancer.

Also the fact that you call /noaim a thirdparty add in makes you sound retarded. Has anyone here downloaded anything besides an offical patch that changed the code(ie mod or whatever)? I'm sure some have but the other thousands of players haven't. So why is /noaim on every copy? Cause Pandemic put it in there. Derrr.
Opinions are like assholes & you are one, I mean everyone has one. You have the audacity to say that the programers & developers are at fault? How high & mighty we are. Who are you to presume?
The game should be played as is, as it was meant to be. I defend that position until Lucas or Pandemic officially say otherwise.
Wether it is an "unfair" advantage is a matter of opinion. (see above)
The no aim command line was not downloaded from the patch, neither is it in every copy, but can only be implemented into a dedicated server. Please review your facts & respond with something at least, aproaching intelligence & coherence.
Excuse me but didn't the dedicated server come with the game? It'd be hard to play the game if the develops made us code our own server application.

Also, what Pandemic says is mute. The fact is TWL will never support auto aim. Deal.
Be nice guys.

As with any game, the intentions of the developers don't necessarily reflect the views of TWL on how to conduct a competition. So just because Pandemic intentionally included the aim helper for gamepad users doesn't mean TWL is obliged to allow it.

And it is safe to say that they intentionally included the aim helper. After all, they created the game and they included it for a reason, I hardly think it was a "mistake."

Since it was intentionally included by the developers, it CANNOT be referred to as a cheat, as many have done. That's just silly.

BUT, this doesn't change the fact that it just isn't right for clan competition.
Also, what Pandemic says is mute.

Moot is the word my oh so articulate friend.
Mute is how you should stay.

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