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Ladder update and admins

Historical capture recovered from the Wayback Machine · captured 2005-03-21 · 22 posts
I know some of you are anxious to get the competitions going. While it is possible in the game's current state I still have reservations due to the lack of a map_restart and observers. It will be difficult to manage the matches but possible.

I anticipate opening the ladders asap but we are in need of some fresh blood in the admin staff. If you are interested in being an admin for Star Wars battlefront and feel you have the temperment and time, please send me an email at garath@teamwarfare.com

Please include your TWL username (you'd be surprised how many forget this ), your age, and any previous experience admining you have.

We're close to starting but need some rules and some admins before we kick off. I thank you all for your patience so far. I look forward to having a great ladder here shortly.
is their a certain date that the ladder will be unlocked and ready to play?
Now that the Holiday weekend is over I know of a bunch of people who will be applying if they haven't already. Hopefully we can get this started soon.
I've received a few applications and will be responding to those shortly. We are currently working on a ruleset. I hope to have the ladder open this week.
Yippie! :-)


Glad to hear it.

Slewfoot
Get enough admin apps ?

So is this gonna be starting anytime soon???
been great to hold #1 for so long but can't hold out forever wishing , needs to be soon or might have to give up
I know some people that sent in apps so I dunno what the holdup is. Garath mentioned opening the ladder last week, it's a week later and almost gonna be 2 weeks later if it doesn't happen by this weekend.

Garath if you need help with the ruleset just ask, I'm sure those of us left in the community would be happy to help. Give us an update please.
wats the hold up?

cant wait any longer, our clan wants to fight in a ladder,

well if its not up by 19th then im gona find a nother,

getting boring waiting months
Yes, I'm sure the new admins and/or the community could help define the rules for Battlefront, if that's the problem. Ask and ye shall recieve.
I submitted an application, but haven't heard from Garath whether it be a refusal or acceptance... I wonder if admins have been chosen...
I too, sent him an email. Have heard nothing. This game be dead, sorry guys....

In it's current state, the twl ladder should not be open. As I discovered scrimming for NERV, it's much too easy to cheat in a match. It takes two honourable and trustworthy teams to have a real match and there's no way the ladder will be only composed of such teams. If it gets a server control patch, I'll see you guys then.
I feel that that is very untrue. There is an EASY way to start matches. Here is a basic ruleset that will give scrimming clans an idea of how it should go. The example will use a one map, 2 battle format on Jabba the Hut.

The server must be configured to: Team Switching, 0 second spawn invinciblity, friedly fire, 0 AI units and maps like this.

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All of the same race. The first map is what I call the warm up map. It's is NOT LIVE and is for the purpose of getting both teams sitiuated and everyone running on the same page, when the clans are ready you can end the map by any means nesissary.

The next map is LIVE as soon as it starts. As soon as the map loads it's LIVE, there is no down time. When the map is over both teams take a screen shot of the screen that shows the stats.

The Next map is NOT LIVE and is there so each clan can get on their teams and once again get situated, this map is not needed but most clans like it.

The final Map is LIVE, look at map 2.

In the even of a tie (both teams win one and lose one) then the winner is determind by the totals at in the screen shots. The team with the most Tickets (Points) in their victory wins.
Works just fine on paper man and like I said, works just fine between honourable teams. Ever played against some fuckers that say, spawn in on your side at the start? Your own players can't spawn in right away and the enemies on your team holler out your positions and where you're going to their friends? It's crystal clear to me that unless you can trust every team on the ladder, it will never be fair.

This is not the only problem in my eyes, but is certainly up there on the list. It mostly boils down to server control though. Without it, the game is toast.
Post edited by -I- Wilbert at 12/13/2004 11:33:13 PM
That situation is true for most games, and there are rules against it. You can't stop someone from spawning on the other side, but you can get them banned for cheating if they do. I don't think there will be a patch like that for a long time at the current production level of Lucas Arts, but I feel that a ladder is still possible with a firm ruleset and teams that are willing to obey it.
Wilbert, we're past your points already, 1942 started with the same problems yet the ladders were rolling immediately. We just said "live on restart" and that was that. No team wants to waste valuable time at the beginning with moles on the other team when they should be rushing a cp or setting up on defense.

Garath, how bout an update ?
Yea so whats going on here Garath we would atleast like to have an update!!
I'm pretty sure TotalCarnage is working on it and I think we're gonna get rollin soon.
Yep...
But we reading same news all the time. Start it or give up!



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