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Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-26 02:03
Here I put myself in front of the residing and remaining TWL TV community as a means of understanding , what do you expect of me.

Before answering consider this is a rational reason to my actions which I feel in no way expects anything unrealistic ,

1. I won't have smurfs in my servers , full stop ...... I don't care if you disagree and if you persist on doing it after I have told you I don't like it then you simply do to piss people off.

There's no need to hide your identity , as if there really ever was ...... name up or expect to be removed

2. I don't care what anyone says , when I get cg'd down from half a map away while I'm running a 200+ speed with my shitty high ping when antics is running ..... you are suspect.

I don't doubt people can get that good , it simply doesn't happen that often in the 5+ years I played this game.

If people aren't sitting in teamspeak with me when I play I simply dont trust you ...... and given the fact I know more than enough about this game to have a good understanding of what can and can not be done ..... cheaters and cheaters and they can all get fucked.

If you hack or cheat then don't expect to be in a >Wu|- server too long.

3. These are my personal views , like them or lump them ...... but come in with an arsehole attitude and ruin the gaming experience for others you will also be removed.

Now again , what do you expect of me ????

If you can't answer seriously then I won't bother replying

Mal-
Severin
TWL Member
2011-01-26 16:10
Why do you care to appeal to the community here? You've made it overly obvious that you believe all people here aren't worth your time. That we all are immature brats that either cheat or just want to fuck with you. Here it is anyways...

1. The smurf rule is silly in my opinion but, and I may be in the minority here, I can respect that it is your server your rules. Because really, at this state of the game, I just want to play the damn game.

2. You say it doesn't happen that often. You may be right. But consider the state of the game now. I believe there are 3 types of players left:

1. Bargain bin/random purchasers
2. Friends convinced to play the game by category 3.
3. Vets. (Just to be clear I mean you, me, vio, whoever played back when this game had a decent size community).

You're going to have a large range of skilled players that could show up in your server. The vets alone have a large range.

It is ignorant to believe that there is not a large range of skill when it comes to these types of games. Have you ever watched pro quake or halo matches? Some of them are fucking ridiculous. There are cheaters out there, but I feel you may be a little overconfident and in your ability to spot one. I am not sure when you entered the NA tribes scene, but the people that came before were even better. The goto example is 5150. They've been a dominant force in video game competition for a long while. Do you believe that these players cheated back in their vengeance hay day? They didn't they simply enjoyed the tribes universe enough to continue to better themselves in a competition scene. That is why when people come back to the game from this community they may stand out.

The point I'm trying to make is we're not so different. The people still playing this game that played it 5 years ago are doing it because they love the game. It really is that simple.

I expect you to approach each individual, no matter which community they subscribe to, with an initial positive attitude instead of typecasting them. It seems like you call someone an arsehole if they simply disagree with you.

I have to say that I do not understand the treatment that I have been getting. Hell, I got kicked from the server by vio for killing him at an inventory station. From fucking Violator, the guy I spent 2-3 years shooting the shit with, enjoying games we both loved. Maybe it's just me, but I put value in the relationships I've developed over the years with these guys. I'm still using the sound card Fandam let me have back in BF2 when I needed it. The same goes for the ram vio traded me too. I do not understand what transpired to cause this change in treatment when we used to be ol' pals. And yet I'm harassed about a clutch key which I can only assume means you think I cheat.

I feel like you bear a hostility towards this community that you will plaster on anyone who associates themselves with it. There are trolls everywhere, not just here, that love to see people put up a fight. And seeing as you are a dominant force in tribes vengeance at the moment, and do not agree with this community's ideals, you're a prime target. If you are truly trying to form some bond with this community, understand that the hackusations do not help.

TLDR: Easy on the hackusations, there are skilled players left. A skilled player is more likely to come back to this game because it is something they were once good at versus an unskilled one. Stop assuming someone who isn't in your teamspeak is an asshole. It's ignorant.
DeathMonk
TWL Member
2011-01-26 16:40
1. You haven't played this game long enough to differentiate a smurf from a vet.

2. I used to routinely CG cappers halfway across a map, also make some ridiculous snipes.

3. You are entitled to your flawed opinions. And from what I've read people get banned from your server for no good reason.

4. I only wrote this because I'm bored.
--Rico Suave--
I stalk slut
2011-01-26 17:48
I played T:V at initial release with sLaM at the gamecaster event on THEIR rigs in an absolutely neutral setting where cheats would be impossible to load. He was already so fucking good that it REALLY opened my eyes to just how legitimately GOOD a player could be. Even after years of playing, i was still half (if im lucky) the player he was. my point is that there are some really good players out there with amazing aim that one would most definitely THINK are cheating if they didnt know better. granted, these people are few and far between but there are still plenty of them. Basing cheat accusations solely on good aim is foolhardy to say the least.
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-27 05:07
Appriceate the post Sev and Rico , Monk .... why did you post seriously.

I suppose my views on this community here are always met with arrogance and snide remarks .... go back to some of my earlier entries when I came in peace and maybe you'll understand.

But in turn I am older than most of you so I suppose my fuze is shorter ..... thats me

But if you can't be civil , then fucked if I will .... so I digress

1. I don't feel the need to explain this again , I've done it enough ...... quite simply the larger percentage of people who do this over the last 2 or 3 years are doing it for a reason as to be a pain.

I simply believe most will behave themselves if they use their known game name .... so I enforce it in servers I pay for.

And in most cases ..... that logic is proven to work

2. I agree on your views here Sev , but I suppose my pissy position in this entire community has me on the firing line to all who have something to prove.

I'm in no way a player note worthy of anything , but I can handle myself across all server I play in ...... but when I dwell in the aussie server to be visited by some unknown who has a ping of 180+ and only cg's me followed by abuse and redicule ..... I suppose it gets boring after a while.

GameArena only started using Antics V5 3 months ago .... I have logs of so called prominate players in the US community talking about how easy antics V3 can be bypassed .... whether they actually did it is another issue but when actively discuss it in an open server with other players present it just pisses me off.

Can you remember the convo I'm talking about Deathmonk ???

Lets touch on another so called good player , Pool ....... this guy no doubt has skills but he has been caught soooo many times cheating his arse off.

I'll reflect on a comment Rockstar stated in a server just not to long ago ..... Pool has skills but if he can cheat he will.

I don't believe I'm over confident mate , I will generally call out only the obvious stuff ...... I have no doubt the skill people get in this game will always be deemed some sort of hack or cheat by others who can't match it but I do experience ...... not assume , alot of shit my way.

I have to stick with my thoughts on this and only reinforce I do think I'm a consistant admin.

Unfortunately for some players I also have a good memory .... cough cough punanie / icelandspar

Regarding the event in our teamspeak , you need to understand I have 100% trust in what Vio says ..... now if he says something about a clutch key ..... sorry dude but I feel he is telling the truth.

I have no reason to not believe him , I feel he has never lied to me.

But only today he tells me you joined again with another player and talked to him about this ...... I won't go into the detail here but now I sit somewhere else regarding my views on you.

So certainly come back and dwel in our channel when you game it up , I don't plan to apologize for what was said but I can move on ....... I feel you sorta brought this on yourself mate based on what Vio explained.

In closing , I'll kick back on and be a little more relaxed ... I'll promote peeps coming into our vent as an invite but I'm gunna stand strong on players who argue and disrupt the gameplay.

I'm in no way the dominant force in TV , if people simply came in to play and not act like turds you would find I'm actually quite a nice fella.

But Punanie , you can piss off ...... your attitude hasn't changed and you know your an arse.

>Wu|- has 50+ members ..... thats not including the 4 new members we got today.

I'm simply not the only person in this community who has these views ..... otherwise why are people still joining the supposed >Wu|- cult.

Thanks for the post

Mal-

(shade)
TWL Member
2011-01-27 12:16
Malox, you completely ignored the logic in everyone's responses.

They said:

Malox you haven't seen some of the best players to ever play this game, You haven't played the other Tribes games (admittedly) You're not listening to people who's skill level is ( Again admittedly ) higher than your own.

You said:

Well i heard so and so talking in the server about cheats, I heard this player calling that player a cheater,
I know what cheating looks like.

That looks pretty blatant. Like you really didn't care what they had to say, you just wanted another soap box for your opinions.

You said you came here to understand. I don't know if you planned on making amends with anyone, clearly no one who has posted so far, but perhaps. Anyway, nothing in your response to their, lets face it, very polite and non-threatening posts suggests that you care what any of us think.

And when you think about that for a second you'll see why you're met with hostility. You show open palm, but you've always got a knife behind your back.

Now that I've thrown my opinions in about what your motives are for even posting here I'd like to add my opinion about what you said.



Sev has been a good friend of mine since playing together and all the guys on moc. That was probably the most fun i've had on a single team. And vio wow, he was great for a laugh and messing around in the servers, plus he brought us all together. It all changed so quickly though. You came in malox. Vio insisted you were a super cool guy, but I remember the first time ever actually playing with you ( i'd heard of all the cool shit you did, make skins, levels, etc.) Yeah it was Cavern... I wasn't smurfing, and i was pretty on that day and kept killing you while you were trying to cap. You threw a fit, called me a hacker, said you were going to come to the states and kick my ass. I'm not sure what my response was, probably laughed... But that was very telling of you. I knew who you were the first time i met you.

Back to sev.... Clutch button..... Was a joke we had with vio... which i don't think he found funny, but sanity kept saying sev had a button that he used, wow, I remember questioning it myself for a minute. Sev played along for a while. Maybe a week. Eventually it just went away. It was one of those hey i got you for being gullible things. It wasn't true, but i guess no one ever got around to telling vio that....

Hope that doesn't shatter your world. but it was just a stupid joke.

So unless you actually plan on listening to what people say when you ask them a question, I wouldn't expect a lot out of the people here, speaking for everyone I'd have to say that kind of shit is pretty annoying.
SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-01-27 12:23
Originally posted by: Odio

Originally posted by: Malox
And Odio writes script for hackers ...

Mal-

rly?


(((supposedly i use the same scripts as you too cheat)))

I would like to point out in that sentence where it says Wu or violator said anything about anything? if you have an answer besides anger id like to know.
Landis
TWL Member
2011-01-27 12:28
CLAN COBRA will prevail.
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-27 20:02
G'day Shade ,

Thanks for the response , I'll be back later to respond ...... taking the family out for a picnic

Cheers

Mal-
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-27 22:59
Back ,

I thought I covered Sevs comments , I'll try again.

There is no doubt I haven't played with some of the best players in TV for sure , I personally don't believe you have either considering we come from different communities ...... at this point in the game who was the best is simply another thread.

Me not recognising true skill can relate to the majority of you all .... I'm certainly not claiming I'm 1 of those experts either.

But I am saying I've put alot of trust into people playing this game to be burnt ..... once again names aren't important now.

Your reflection of our supposed first meeting seems to have stuck in your mind whereas I honestly at the time of reading it couldn't remember all that.

Thinking further I agree that event occured .... but not to drag out the petty shit between us Shade you are in no way innocent .... there are countless times you've done the same thing to numerous people.

If you want to keep going over events like that mate I will do my best to entertain you but shit , you must agree you do like a level of drama.

Your post count at reVo was in the 95% range all residing in the flame forum ...... I personally think you and I are simply 2 strong minded people that will clash on most subjects.

If you wish to bury the hactchet and simply game it up .... tell me , believe it or not I don't enjoy argueing all the bloody time and I dont like the fact that I'm possible keeping the likes of yourself from hanging out with old TV friends aka Vio and Scar.

All I want if I'm in a position at all to do so is put in place some fairly reasonable server rules and have people follow them.

Regarding the clutch key , if it was a joke ..... for those said players to talk about and leave anyone involved in that convo not in the know of the truth is their fault ..... Vio and I talk everyday , about family , life , work ..... if this fella tells me something these days I have no reason to not believe him.

Why does it take me targeting Sev in our teamspeak for all the shit to come to the surface.

Sev has stated what he wants , do me a favour and do the same hey.

Mal-
SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-01-28 00:18
Originally posted by: SlipStream!
Originally posted by: Odio

Originally posted by: Malox
And Odio writes script for hackers ...

Mal-

rly?


(((supposedly i use the same scripts as you too cheat)))

I would like to point out in that sentence where it says Wu or violator said anything about anything? if you have an answer besides anger id like to know.
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-28 15:07
Slip , you sit in our TS channel , you talk with us and we are straight up with you ....... then you run back and state comments that were said in that channel.

Are you really surprised at our reaction , surely not.

Be consistant with us , don't show 1 face in our channel and another here.

Mal-
SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-01-28 16:04
Originally posted by: Malox
Slip , you sit in our TS channel , you talk with us and we are straight up with you ....... then you run back and state comments that were said in that channel.

Are you really surprised at our reaction , surely not.

Be consistant with us , don't show 1 face in our channel and another here.

Mal-
my reaction is too violator cussing at me in your vent when i joined because you told me i was welcome. ( any doubts of his swearing fest can be confirmed by red who was in the channel during it). his swearing and belittling of me on teamspeak as a result of a post above that says nothing about you, him , or your clan is the result of my post. if you think its for any other reason then your mistaken. you and him constantly are rude to individuals then hold there reactions against them thats pretty selfish if you ask me.

his exact words were you are a fucking loser, i hate people like you. you deserve to die and if i lived by you id kick your ass. All this because of a post that had nothing to do with any of you guys. thAT POST WAS PROMPTED BY YOUR SAYING I WAS WELCOME IN YOUR SERVER AND BEING BANNED BY LEAF.

What people do is a result of the frustrations they get because of the way your guys treat them.
Post edited by SlipStream! at 1/28/2011 4:10:50 PM
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-29 00:54
As stated Slip , you resided in our vent and were part of convos ........ then you run back here and piss and moan.

You expect how many chances ????

Mal-
(shade)
TWL Member
2011-01-29 09:29
Originally posted by: Malox
if it was a joke ..... for those said players to talk about and leave anyone involved in that convo not in the know of the truth is their fault


So what you're saying is.... It never really mattered what the truth was, you just needed another reason to voice your opinion on the subject, even if you know its wrong you don't care.

WoW.... I wonder why you got flamed for making remarks like that?



Oh and do us a favor malox, try and fully read what is written if you don't mind. I never said you didn't play with the best people ( I agree with it) but I was making the point that you ignored the posters before me... You based most of your post on this, so unfortunately it wouldn't be prudent to bash you, seeing as how your remarks were misguided by this.


Wow i wonder how much of this is going to be taken out of context.

Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-29 17:56
How about reading what I post Shade

Until Sev and whoever came back into teamspeak and clarified to Vio after how long it was it just a joke I was unawares it was a lie.

Once again we just head down the old road of argueing .... awesome

Mal-

SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-01-30 12:34
Originally posted by: Malox
As stated Slip , you resided in our vent and were part of convos ........ then you run back here and piss and moan.

You expect how many chances ????

Mal-


So what your saying is, it doesnt freaken matter what the truth is and you didnt read what i posted just needed another reason to post your opinion. you dont get it do you!
when somebody cusses you out what do you do? ban them then post. i post just dont ban. incase you didnt know there werent convos. there was me coming in saying hi hows it going and violator yelling for no reason saying hes come to my house and kill me. malox i thought you were atleast intelligent enough to read the full lengths of my posts. why is it that you chose not too.
Post edited by SlipStream! at 1/30/2011 12:40:53 PM
Scarface503
TWL Member
2011-01-30 15:12
its real simple, during the time of the so called clutch key comment, it had came to light that some peeps in moc were cheating. We never wanted cheaters on the team and the fact that so called friends lied about it was fucked. It was bad timing for the clutch comment and it obviously but doubt into peoples minds. Now that this has been finally clarified everyone jus needs a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up! Ohh and slip ur gay! and get in ts sev u asshole
SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-01-30 16:58
Originally posted by: Scarface503
its real simple, during the time of the so called clutch key comment, it had came to light that some peeps in moc were cheating. We never wanted cheaters on the team and the fact that so called friends lied about it was fucked. It was bad timing for the clutch comment and it obviously but doubt into peoples minds. Now that this has been finally clarified everyone jus needs a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up! Ohh and slip ur gay! and get in ts sev u asshole


im only gay to you because you think i use cheats. im also only gay to you because i have self dignity and dont tolerate the constant negativity and hacussations a select amount of wu members put on to me.
if in fact i dont use cheats doesnt it make you the gay one for being convinced over a year otherwise.
doublelong
TWL Member
2011-01-30 17:23
slip pings 25-30 in their server. ive yet to see one person NOT cg like a turret with ping that low....
Scarface503
TWL Member
2011-01-30 18:02
sorry i ment retarted gay pederass , when during the time u hung out did i call u a cheater? And ur gay because u pray on little boys with candy, and way ta stick up for yourself hacker pedo
SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-01-30 22:51
Originally posted by: Scarface503
sorry i ment retarted gay pederass , when during the time u hung out did i call u a cheater? And ur gay because u pray on little boys with candy, and way ta stick up for yourself hacker pedo


if your so certain i pray on little boys doesnt that make you gay>? I mean were you there when it happened cause theres no other way you could know such a thing?
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-31 01:58
Huh , go stalk someone else's thread ffs

Mal-
Post edited by Malox at 1/31/2011 1:58:28 AM
IcelandSpar
TWL Member
2011-01-31 20:11
Why are you bringing me up? I haven't been here in awhile.

An ironic thing I've noticed:

1. you claim to let go of old things.
2. you said you'll never forget how I've been a dick to you.
3. weren't you just ragging on someone for holding on to a first impression that was accurate?
4. You're either a liar or a hypocrite. which is it?

I think you just hate me because I call you out for being an old creepy pervert with absolutely no life. What's your wife look like? I bet she's a looker.
Post edited by IcelandSpar at 1/31/2011 8:33:38 PM
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-31 21:12
But Punanie , you can piss off ...... your attitude hasn't changed and you know your an arse.


Go play in another server Iceland , you're not welcome in >Wu|- servers

Mal-
Malox
TWL Member
2011-01-31 21:15
I love how you run back here and cry everytime .... funny shit

Mal-
IcelandSpar
TWL Member
2011-01-31 21:20
nope. you're wrong.

check the time stamp and then check out the time you banned me at. you need a jump to conclusions mat.
SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-01-31 21:40
Originally posted by: IcelandSpar
Why are you bringing me up? I haven't been here in awhile.

An ironic thing I've noticed:

1. you claim to let go of old things.
2. you said you'll never forget how I've been a dick to you.
3. weren't you just ragging on someone for holding on to a first impression that was accurate?
4. You're either a liar or a hypocrite. which is it?

I think you just hate me because I call you out for being an old creepy pervert with absolutely no life. What's your wife look like? I bet she's a looker.


punanie i never really like you but i comppletely agree with you. he says he lets things go but for the last year half malox, violator, and blood have been trying to prove that i use cheats.
so obviously he doesnt let things go.
second he is a liar and a hypocrite.
he doesnt care however thats how he choses to be perceived by all of us.
Malox
TWL Member
2011-02-01 00:41
Actually I rarely think of you at all Slip , but by all means please tell me how good you are again.

Mal-
Malox
TWL Member
2011-02-01 00:48
You're actually right Slip , I could care less what you think of me ..... I still game it up and have a ball.

Whereas ........ you post up here

Threads done , nothing constructive is coming from it other than a shit load of girls crying.

Mal-
IcelandSpar
TWL Member
2011-02-01 11:19
Malox, your life must be incredibly boring and empty to place so much effort into a forum that hates you and a game that's dead. Is tribes the only place where you have any semblance of power?
(shade)
TWL Member
2011-02-01 13:44
Originally posted by: IcelandSpar
you need a jump to conclusions mat.


Ahahaha

Malox = Tom

Malox's Admin ideas = Conclusion mat idea

TWL members = Peter, Samir, and Michael

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXwWyAJT334
Malox
TWL Member
2011-02-01 22:24
Originally posted by: IcelandSpar
Malox, your life must be incredibly boring and empty to place so much effort into a forum that hates you and a game that's dead. Is tribes the only place where you have any semblance of power?


Just a question , why is it you want to play in a server so badly that has you on the unwelcome list.

My logic might be flawed at times but yours is just totally fucked up.

Please stop assuming you know me either , your conclusions are so far off you simply have no idea.

Whereas ... you're a bad tempered little kid who shit talks everyone amd when you get punished , you piss and moan like a ... bad tempered little kid lol.

Mal-
IcelandSpar
TWL Member
2011-02-01 23:17
you've got me all wrong. I don't talk shit to everyone. Just you. Also, I'm not a little kid. I'm all grown up!
Malox
TWL Member
2011-02-02 04:04
Originally posted by: IcelandSpar
you've got me all wrong. I don't talk shit to everyone. Just you. Also, I'm not a little kid. I'm all grown up!


I'm lost for words ....... you simply don't get any better.

Mal-
SlipStream!
TWL Member
2011-02-02 12:13
Originally posted by: Malox
Originally posted by: IcelandSpar
Malox, your life must be incredibly boring and empty to place so much effort into a forum that hates you and a game that's dead. Is tribes the only place where you have any semblance of power?


Just a question , why is it you want to play in a server so badly that has you on the unwelcome list.

My logic might be flawed at times but yours is just totally fucked up.

Please stop assuming you know me either , your conclusions are so far off you simply have no idea.

Whereas ... you're a bad tempered little kid who shit talks everyone amd when you get punished , you piss and moan like a ... bad tempered little kid lol.

Mal-


yet you piss and moan like a bad tempered adult. last time i check it was more of a flaw for an adult to act this way over a child as you put it
IcelandSpar
TWL Member
2011-02-02 12:40
Originally posted by: Malox
Originally posted by: IcelandSpar
you've got me all wrong. I don't talk shit to everyone. Just you. Also, I'm not a little kid. I'm all grown up!


I'm lost for words ....... you simply don't get any better.

Mal-


you simply don't understand condescending sarcasm.
Malox
TWL Member
2011-02-02 18:43
You assume alot

Mal-
Malox
TWL Member
2011-02-15 06:35
Well , this thread failed.

Again my thoughts on you guys is reinforced ..... you're only happy if you are argueing.

What a rort

Mal-
(shade)
TWL Member
2011-02-15 09:07
Originally posted by: Malox
Here I put myself in front of the residing and remaining TWL TV community as a means of understanding , what do you expect of me.

Before answering consider this is my rational reasoning

1. I WON'T have smurfs in my servers

2. I DON'T care what anyone says

I don't doubt people can get that good , it simply DOESN'T happen that often in the 5+ years I played this game.

If people aren't sitting in teamspeak with me when I play I simply DON'T trust you.



If you can't answer seriously then I won't bother replying



Originally posted by: MalOX
Well , this thread failed.

Again my thoughts on you guys is reinforced ..... you're only happy if you are argueing.



Fuck you in the neck.

I've done you a favor and shortened your OP

I also highlighted a few things for you to see.

You open up with an appeal to reason, but quickly smash it by being Absolute in your language. You're arguing with everyone here before anyone has posted a response. It would appear you have no intentions of being civil from the very beginning. What do you expect anyone who reads this to think?

Fuck you for trying to say your quest was "noble"

Get The Fuck Out, you socially awkward egotist.