More teams wiped from the slate?

Were down to 19 teams.....we gonna get some more activity?

Only way you guys on the bottom rungs are gonna get higher is by challenging.

Lets go....as much as we loved playing NCG (and Im sure they will agree) we need some challenges around here. Playing them 24/7, albiet fun, would get old.

Originally posted by: [HEL]Jawa
Lets go....as much as we loved playing NCG (and Im sure they will agree) we need some challenges around here. Playing them 24/7, albiet fun, would get old.

Counting your eggs a little before they have hatched, eh Jawa? Don't worry, there are plenty of teams in the top 10 to give you the action that you desire...

Yeah Khz is a very notable "challenge" to any clan on this ladder. Actually they probably would of made a good challenge for any clan that used to be in this ladder, and yes I include Dsbr.

I don't know Jawa, I think playing you guys over and over and over until one of us finally got the real upper hand and could own the other would be a good time.

dont talk about what you dont know

I very seriously doubt they would be a challenge, sorry
I could probably start playing JK2 again right now and outperform 99% of you guys eh

Originally posted by: buffeh
I very seriously doubt they would be a challenge, sorry

History tells us, based on past DSbr match results, that this challenge would not necessarily be a walk in the park for you, if it were to be played. But I digress...

If khz can claim the #1 spot and can defend it successfuly and remain undefeated, then people can make comparisons to DSbr as a CTF champion ONLY. Until then, DSbr remains the most successful JK2 clan in history*, in more than one game-type I might add, and I have the utmost respect for them as players.

*This includes being more successful than pG for the inevitable school_guy retort.

Thank you, Cannon, for holding khz in such high regard.

Originally posted by: [HEL]Jawa

Were down to 19 teams.....we gonna get some more activity?

Only way you guys on the bottom rungs are gonna get higher is by challenging.

Lets go....as much as we loved playing NCG (and Im sure they will agree) we need some challenges around here. Playing them 24/7, albiet fun, would get old.

Somoene wanted to become a jk2 admin so that all the newbie teams would be taken off the ladder, I think it was a great idea we wouldn't have to see newbie rpg teams like TEL on the ladder.

Originally posted by: khz|fission

Originally posted by: buffeh
I very seriously doubt they would be a challenge, sorry

History tells us, based on past DSbr match results, that this challenge would not necessarily be a walk in the park for you, if it were to be played. But I digress...

If khz can claim the #1 spot and can defend it successfuly and remain undefeated, then people can make comparisons to DSbr as a CTF champion ONLY. Until then, DSbr remains the most successful JK2 clan in history*, in more than one game-type I might add, and I have the utmost respect for them as players.

*This includes being more successful than pG for the inevitable school_guy retort.

Thank you, Cannon, for holding khz in such high regard.

ok im going to have to disagree. khz can NEVER be compared to DSbr. We owned everyone when GOOD players actually played this game. Well i don't know about good, probably better to say when the game was active and at the peak of it's skill.

now pretty much all good and decent teams have left the ladder. there is nothing left to accomplish in this dead game. if you hold #1 on this ladder at this point it is meaningless. WOW I'M #1 IN A SEA OF INACTIVE NEWBIES.

and as for narbes's quote "I could probably start playing JK2 again right now and outperform 99% of you guys eh"

yes this is 100% true. look what happened when narbes and I played our first game after a one month inactivity period (this was a while back):

http://www.teamdsbr.com/shot0000.jpg

I am aliased as -V-ringer and narbes is using the name "matt". As you can see I joined the game late and there was an 8 cap limit.

The teams were OBVIOUSLY retarded, look at the players. We even said this to u before we started playing but u admitted that it didn't matter simple b/c Valar needed somebody to scrim. Geezus/Nutrious/Death Scythe did absolutely nothing except leave Staind totally alone on D and get in my way when I tried to cap. Yes, that single cap was from me when the TK newbies weren't in my way grabbing the flag and dying 2 sec later.

gj Matt, u owned a game that even ur own team admitted to being unfair.

rusted you cocksucker shouldnt you be playing on mgayer with the rest of the q2 elites

matt, I am going to have to disagree with you on the fact that you owned every team that you ever played. Your match against dE was a close one (3 - 0, 3 - 2). I don't think by any stretch of the imagination that could be labeled ownage. But I am not here to argue with you about semantics or tired rhetoric. In fact we have always gotten along pretty well.

Sure the competition isn't what it once was, and I have openly admitted that. However, one of the DSbr claims to fame was that they have been the only undefeated champion. Well along comes khz and may have the ability to do the same thing. It may not mean much or anything at all to you if that task is accomplished, but as you say no one else has done it either. Of course, this whole argument is all based on speculation. khz may never attain that goal.

Ok it's stupid to sit around and discuss whether or not a match with a clan that doesn't play anymore would be a challenge or not. If they don't play, why are they considered? Sure..they can be thought of as the "best CTF team in this ladder's history", but if they don't play, it's pointless to sit around and speculate as to whether "it'd be a challenge or not". It's just a waste of
everybody's time.

If you Dsbr guys have such a problem with these "n00b" clans challenging you, then activate your damn clan again. Otherwise, it's pointless for anybody to talk about this stuff. Nobody will know unless you play them.

Yes Im a n00b compared to most of you...but im not stupid :P
-Loki

Post edited by loki00 at 10/1/2002 4:07:42 PM

"There's nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot...."
--Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry, Magnum Force.

Another point is that you old good clans may be highly skilled, but there's only so good people can get in any game, including this one. Eventually, all these "n00bs" will catch up to even you in skill, and your stand-offish obstinance will be idiotic unless it is proven that you still own everyone

i.e. You will eventually have to put your money where your mouth is when people challenge you and you tell them "you could never beat us".
-Loki

Post edited by loki00 at 10/1/2002 4:19:55 PM

"There's nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot...."
--Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry, Magnum Force.

do you even know what you're talking about?

I think so, or I wouldn't even be posting, dude. :P
You dont need to be an expert jk2 player to have common sense...and that's all my posts were.

Like i said...I might be a n00b compared to most of you, but im not stupid..
-Loki

sorry but de generation 2 aka khz cannot be considered undefeated. they merely changed their name after being raped on ladder. yes i used the term raped considering scores were 3-0 and 3-2 simply becuase we didnt play this game unless it was match time.. where as you after scrims ect. still couldnt defeat the mighty unbeatable dsbr squad.



and for you to say that khz can be compared to dsbr? only in one way. ill use hockey as my analogy. you compared to dsbr is like super juvy league for 13-14 year olds playing against the canadian olympic hockey team. granted you can still go to africa *note this is the part of the analogy dealing with your competition today* and probably beat every other team because nobody is any good and do they even have ice rinks in africa.


if you cant understand what im saying pls say so and ill dumb it down further

Eventually the 13-14 yr olds grow up and go into the NHL or join the Canadian Olympic Hockey team along side the veterans themselves....The players currently there also might get old and fade away. So whats the point of discussing this again? hehe

There's no point unless Dsbr is active.
-Loki


"There's nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot...."
--Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry, Magnum Force.

Actually DSbr will always be the best...at strafe jumping, that's it.

Wow that's pretty sad. All I say is Khz would be a challenge to Dsbr and all of the sudden the come out of the wood work. I didn't say "oh my god Khz would own Dsbr." Cause I don't think it's true. No you're right I don't know how well Dsbr played but really that's a nonissue here. All I said was Khz would be a challenge to whoever they played.

DSbr dont need to keep reading these forums or valar they quited jk2, why dont they talk crap on other forums...

Yeah they supposedly don't care nemore yet they're quick to defend the throne that they don't even have nemore at a "newbie" game. Hilarious.

Who cares what the moves are called, its whether you use them or not that matters.

Anywho, the remaining clans may not be of the same amazing standard as Dsbr and the like, but all seem to be nice people. With the current batch of players, their respect for those better than them, their assistance to those worse, we may yet get some competition out of this game yet.

Out of all the top teams now, I can't think of one who would bitch constantly on the forums after losing an important game, all pick themselves up and improve. JK2 competition is getting a dose of maturity.

Originally posted by: ___RuST___

The teams were OBVIOUSLY retarded, look at the players. We even said this to u before we started playing but u admitted that it didn't matter simple b/c Valar needed somebody to scrim. Geezus/Nutrious/Death Scythe did absolutely nothing except leave Staind totally alone on D and get in my way when I tried to cap. Yes, that single cap was from me when the TK newbies weren't in my way grabbing the flag and dying 2 sec later.

gj Matt, u owned a game that even ur own team admitted to being unfair.

haha rust staind couldn't stop shit on D his score kind of proves that and the only reason you got a cap was because we covered your ass while when others were running flags you didn't bother you were just camping on their flag hoping to get free runs and pts.
Anyone knows Matt and Buffeh would've raped you and staind while they were still playing the game.

lol how do u camp the flag in BE without being seen/shot at/killed. That made tons of sense Geezus.

Do I really need to tell u again that Staind was alone on D? Can u stop two cappers all by urself? I didn't think so.

Ahem

Originally posted by: DeTRiTiC-iQ

Anywho, the remaining clans may not be of the same amazing standard as Dsbr and the like, but all seem to be nice people. With the current batch of players, their respect for those better than them, their assistance to those worse, we may yet get some competition out of this game yet.

Out of all the top teams now, I can't think of one who would bitch constantly on the forums after losing an important game, all pick themselves up and improve. JK2 competition is getting a dose of maturity.

Well put Det. We'll use JA as an example. NM recently beat them in a fairly close game. Now, do we see them whining and complainig on the forums about it? Or do we see them practicing more, encouraging players with less skill, and trying different combinations of players in order to beat NM in the next round.

Good riddance to people that whine and complain. There is only one answer to that. GET BETTER!

No one ever improved their skillz by bitching about it. Or by talking about how GOOD they are. I think this community needs a good dose of humility. I also believe that the forums should be a good place for beginners to learn how to play better. I, for one, had no idea that you could use arcs in your mouse movement while strafing (circle jumping). And thanx to one of DSBR's posts and a couple of hours of practice I'm getting better. Keep the tips coming.

Originally posted by: ___RuST___

lol how do u camp the flag in BE without being seen/shot at/killed. That made tons of sense Geezus.

Do I really need to tell u again that Staind was alone on D? Can u stop two cappers all by urself? I didn't think so.

If staind was "alone" as you say there would have been a 4 man offensive rush which would make camping on the flag easy gj contradicting yourself. BTW if he's as good as you advertise and hype shouldn't he have done great on D even against 2 people?

ahhahaha I never had time to camp cuz u and Nutri always died a couple seconds after making a grab. TK was just newbie like that.

Staind is an awesome D but again, he was alone.

once again...

those people that dont even play the game, stil posting like they own the damn town.

STFU or play.

Forums whores.

haha there was like 6 posts when i replied this morning, now there is 3 pages lol. ok time to respond to the horde of newbies all in one go.

"The teams were OBVIOUSLY retarded, look at the players. We even said this to u before we started playing but u admitted that it didn't matter simple b/c Valar needed somebody to scrim. Geezus/Nutrious/Death Scythe did absolutely nothing except leave Staind totally alone on D and get in my way when I tried to cap. Yes, that single cap was from me when the TK newbies weren't in my way grabbing the flag and dying 2 sec later.

gj Matt, u owned a game that even ur own team admitted to being unfair." - rusted

wah wah baby rusted. instead of crying about your teammates you should have got a strat organized. don't forget narbes/me hadn't played a single game in a month and thats an obvious disadvantage. plus we had dragon so stfu with your whinning. one day you will come to realize that you just weren't good at jk2.

"matt, I am going to have to disagree with you on the fact that you owned every team that you ever played. Your match against dE was a close one (3 - 0, 3 - 2). I don't think by any stretch of the imagination that could be labeled ownage." - khz|fission

the 3-0 was on towers which everyone knows is a retarded map for 5v5 match play. its so fucking small - all that ends up happening is enemy flag camping. 3-2 was when i was being ping flooded to a completely unplayable state. i was flag d. imagine if i had a playable ping on flag d? we wouldnt of had to worry about the flag leaving so much and would have got twice as many caps.

loki00,-=[Cannon]=-,RAarkTemplar - you are retarded newbies. the big boys are having a discussion here. never reply to a thread where my godlike presence is again.

"Actually DSbr will always be the best...at strafe jumping" - rusted

yes

"Nah they're not newbie but they're not the best either. They were #1 what months ago? Wow that really means a lot...considering they were the only decent team back then." - rusted

no one was ever better than us and no one ever will be. this is pretty common knowledge.

"Uh, no. Circle jumping is what they called jumping in a circle around a target in the Q2 days 3 years ago newbie." - rusted

rofl he still doesn't know the difference between circle jumping and circle strafing.

"haha rust staind couldn't stop shit on D" - GEEZus!

agreed and he had the khz newbie playing hall d to help him too. and yes there was lots of flag camping that game. there was up to 4 people in our base at times.

Originally posted by: ___RuST___

ahhahaha I never had time to camp cuz u and Nutri always died a couple seconds after making a grab. TK was just newbie like that.

Staind is an awesome D but again, he was alone.

haha like it or not Nutri and I had way more wins in match history with TK than you ever did in any clan so go figure who was newbie. I think you had maybe ummm lets see maybe 1 match win? Oh yeah that BF match where Sniper, Soul Reaver, and yes I'll give him credit Staind basically won the match and you hardly did anything. The only things you ever did in your jk2 playing days were whine and make excuses which is obviously proved in this thread.
Post edited by GEEZus! at 10/1/2002 11:20:28 PM

Why did you leave SofD before the TK match anyways?

no no no 1337 Jedi pwned all of your asses! wooooohooo yeah they did and you know it, fear us fear us! a month after all of us quit we were still in the top 20 .... in the top 30 3 months after ... what a sad sad ladder =P
Jenova
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yeah and a side note: DSBR was the best, and i bet they could get back together right now and be #1 in weeks. They were some of the most incredible players i have ever seen on any FPS. period. dont argue with them, you are wrong, they are right.

Another note, all of you silly dudes stop playing the FPS games and play some everquest, roxor soxor baby.
Post edited by Jenova at 10/2/2002 1:08:01 AM

Jenova
+:PD:+

haha wassup jenova damn right. I was going to flame you and post DSbr rape match results vs [1J] becuase of "no no no 1337 Jedi pwned all of your asses!", but your second reply saved you.

This is good humor.. and yes.. khz will probably rape us([HEL]).. Im hoping for a somewhat close game. and i dont think there will be a team formed that can stop them.. maybe if allot of noobs put allot of hours in or some people come back. I feel like typing more shit right now about other stuff but im too tired..

Oh and that doctored photo,

That was fucking hillarious... I was probably laughing for ten minutes...

-matt posted:
loki00,-=[Cannon]=-,RAarkTemplar - you are retarded newbies. the big boys are having a discussion here. never reply to a thread where my godlike presence is again.


Are you 14 yrs old? Or are you just a moron basking in your former glory, who sits around and talks all his shit, then hides when he's asked to stand up. All 733t fags like you need to sit down or stand up and play against some of these people. You also constantly say this game sucks and don't care, yet you constantly post here and talk shit.

Either reform your clan and play against these people so you can prove you "still have it" against them, or sit down
and stfu. Im newer to this game than most people here, and I openly admit to being a n00b compared to most of them. However, that doesn't mean I have no common sense. You are an idiot if all you can say in response to my post is "shut up n00b". Tell me something of substance, or go away.

On second thought...just go away....the community is better off without dipshits like you here.
-Loki


Post edited by loki00 at 10/2/2002 11:11:27 AM

"There's nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot...."
--Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry, Magnum Force.

lol were you even here when dsbr was around? we all talked this much shit and WE DID BACK IT UP GOING UNDEFEATED. gj ignorant newbie i think you've killed this thread, now stop talking.

Do you know how to read? It doesn't matter what you DID. All that matters is what you DO. No I wasn't around when you and your DSbr buddies basked in all your glory, nor do I care, and nor does it matter to the point at hand. It also makes ZERO difference whether I played back then, or whether I even own the friggin game right now as to what I am saying.

What you did before is to be respected, but when it comes to you being called to back it up presently, it means precisely jack and shit now. Either leave and stfu, or reform DSbr and play the people who challenge you.

If you can't understand what im saying this time, Im sure I can hook you up with some phonics tapes.
-Loki

Post edited by loki00 at 10/2/2002 2:17:10 PM

"There's nothing wrong with shooting, so long as the right people get shot...."
--Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry, Magnum Force.

it matters what they can do, i agree. they can still kick your ass. no question about that. they also had one of the funnier web pages. DSBR for ever! hey can i join the non-existant clan just for kicks? puleeeeeze?
Jenova
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