jk2 community

for all the jk2 ctf clans on irc i encourage you to idle in #jk2ctf (irc.enterthegame.com). maybe we can get some pickup games going...

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Vector IRON: you are one cheating fuck
Small Potatoes: he's cheating.. he is running way too fast
DSbr-matt: ahahha
Stackhighntheycry: what happened to PURE servers?
goorooloo: ya that way to fast
DSbr-matt: its strafe jumping and force speed idiots

Ill stop by there as much as I can but I think there is going to be another channel as well thats not ETG.
Thanks1

whats the point of having a channel on a different irc server when most jk2 clans (and the top ones) are on ETG?

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Vector IRON: you are one cheating fuck
Small Potatoes: he's cheating.. he is running way too fast
DSbr-matt: ahahha
Stackhighntheycry: what happened to PURE servers?
goorooloo: ya that way to fast
DSbr-matt: its strafe jumping and force speed idiots

In 1-2 weeks the community website will be finished and the jk2irc will be made public. I will post a thread on this hopefully by Friday.

zach_, I agree that the community needs to "pick a server and stick with it". ETG caters to so many games, and people have so much trouble getting connected (and disconnected), that I don't think that's a really good solution for JK2. The Community IRC network that is being worked on has plenty of room for JK2 and has a much easier security interface. Once it has been publically announced I think we should all go over there. It's nice not to have to hop servers to talk with other teams.

JK2IRC = hax

:huh:

Originally posted by: Zephorath

JK2IRC = hax

lol wtf
Team Valar

Zephorath = hax

hax is a good thing lol

bah i don't want to have to open a new server window to connect to some new jk2 only server. ETG > *

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Vector IRON: you are one cheating fuck
Small Potatoes: he's cheating.. he is running way too fast
DSbr-matt: ahahha
Stackhighntheycry: what happened to PURE servers?
goorooloo: ya that way to fast
DSbr-matt: its strafe jumping and force speed idiots

etg is teh sux0r

shut up newbie wd



also your mod sucks.

on another note



why would you start a jk2 irc server when the community is so fricking small? thats just a waste of time and money. you could instead be spending time making a decent competition mod. instead you have newbies like wd trying and failing to do that.

rotfl
ooooook then

so if you were making a mod, what would you do?

Seriously
If you have ideas, post them!

'Your Mod sucks' doesn't help the commuinity any.

Originally posted by: -Logan

why would you start a jk2 irc server when the community is so fricking small? thats just a waste of time and money. you could instead be spending time making a decent competition mod. instead you have newbies like wd trying and failing to do that.

The purpose of the jk2irc is to expand and localize the community. It was not a waste of time and costed no money. WD did not fail at making a competition mod, it's still in the beta stages, and IMO it is going to fucking rock when it's done. So instead of sitting back and judging them, why not help them or make your own?
Post edited by Krash at 7/15/2002 11:13:43 PM

ok then take a long hard look at the greatest competition mod for a game ever.


http://www.orangesmoothie.org


you need to incorporate similiar things, an improved voting system with a lot more options, a timeout feature, show all the spectating players on 1 screen similiar to q3, allow a "coach" spot on each team like osp does. allow your "mod" changes to be voted off while still offering the other actual useful upgrades to the game like the aforementioned items. so that if i dont want to play gay ass wd mod settings i can play the base game.

We were looking at those, and the possibility of adding them if it catches on.

Gay settings? Please explain.

ok, I agree with some of what you are saying, logan. More voting options would be cool. Why do you think we need timeouts in jk2? Not being able to see the spectators is annoying, I agree with you there. What settings do you find gay that WD has modified?

I think some of what you said should be looked into. Here are a couple things that WD did I thought was cool:

Any part of the flag can be grabbed with any part of your body

When you suicide, the flag is dropped in the field instead of auto-returning. (this opens up mid-air passing\improved escorting)

Some things I would like to see:

A keybind that tosses the flag

A flag that follows a players momentum when he dies

Force powers that can be changed on-the-fly (light 2 dark with a keybind)

Mute options (mute players\enemy team\own team\local taunts\etc)

timeouts during games, for instance in a pickup or a match if one of your players starts spiking you can timeout until it steadies, or if he just lags out you can timeout to get another to take his spot.


the flag momentum is stupid, as is the changing force on the fly. your force is a "class" and just like any other game to change classes you should have to self.


tossing the flag is just stupid thats gay tribes shit.

yeah time outs are needed for obvious reasons.. the most obvious being your teammate lags out, you pause the game and wait for him to return.

"Force powers that can be changed on-the-fly (light 2 dark with a keybind)"

thats just really gay. you choose either light or dark.. switching haha...

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Vector IRON: you are one cheating fuck
Small Potatoes: he's cheating.. he is running way too fast
DSbr-matt: ahahha
Stackhighntheycry: what happened to PURE servers?
goorooloo: ya that way to fast
DSbr-matt: its strafe jumping and force speed idiots

how is the switching of force powers on the fly, gay? There are instances in matches where one force side (light lets say for absorb) are needed, and others for other situtations (dark side for Dark Rage).

You still have to die to get recive them (i hope), just faster than going into player options then rebinding keys in a match.

Post edited by Dancesonfire at 7/16/2002 4:55:03 AM

I think many of the ideas being talked about here are good. WD is working on good admin options, and I'm all for that. I'm gonna continue to give JK2++ a test-drive and see how it evolves. WD needs our support by providing constructive feedback, so discussions like this are good.

I have to disagree with keybinding Force Powers though. I want people to be penalized for choosing the wrong setup for the situation. Giving them a keybind makes it too easy to adjust to the situation. Don't get me wrong, I've done it too, but I never felt hitting ESC, making the changes and suiciding was too high a price for it. I'd be more afraid of people abusing this than it helping those rare situations.

I dont think force options on the fly are worthwile either, Thats part of the idea is to have a mix of people on both teams to use either light or dark. Makes strategy more of an option instead of making it some kind of "who can get dark rage and speed on first" type of thing.

Other ideas are good though, timeouts would be cool. Not to sure on the flag passing. Could be really cool or really stupid. Keep hammering out the ideas fellas.

Any chance you think they could fix the saber nurf in 1.04? The only reason I lub JK2 is because of sabers.

I may give this mod a chance now.

Also one reason I played Tribes as my 2nd FPS is because of the complexity (lub jetpack & terrains!). Having both forces on the fly is just adding to the complexity of your strats. Since they seem to be nurf'n everthing for pub noobs then maybe a mod can solve the problems for competition driven peeps.

Also as a "Renegade" or "Bastard" Jedi, it sounds cool having access to both sides of the force. Of course this means your really part of the dark side. Just more soo

I have a DOJO practice server that I am thinking of changing from Private to Public. I dont know if I want it 1.04, 1.03a, or maybe this new JK2++ mod. I am going to go read WD forums/site today.
Post edited by Hoby at 7/16/2002 10:07:44 AM

Originally posted by: zach_

"Force powers that can be changed on-the-fly (light 2 dark with a keybind)"

thats just really gay. you choose either light or dark.. switching haha...

Currently you can save your favorite light or dark force power confurations. All I am saying is it would be cool to bind a key to those favorites. You would still have to die before it changed. I don't know why your opposed to it so much when you can do it manually right now with 1.04...

Couldn't you do something like bind key exec ctf-light.cfg or something?

We already fixed sabers. They do massive damage, but its kinda funky in the current beta and you have to set the damage scale to 2.2 which will be default in the next one.

As for ou 'gay settings' we still haven't heard what those are.
I'm beginning to think you haven't even played it.

Believe me, looking at the 'What's New' page really isn't the same as playing the game.

Logan, wtf makes WD newbs? WD has kicked DSbr's ass just as much as DSbr has kicked WD's ass. So, really, what makes us newbs?

"allow your "mod" changes to be voted off while still offering the other actual useful upgrades to the game like the aforementioned items. so that if i dont want to play gay ass wd mod settings i can play the base game."

No will do. Yes, I intend on incorporating aspects of OSP, however, no mod changes will be allowed to be voted off. Why? Because basejk sucks. Why do you think the community is, in your own words, "so fricking small"? It's because the basic gameplay of JK2 sucks.

You have yet to offer any feedback on our mod, so either shut the hell up or offer some suggestions. None of us need your piddling, cheap, idiotic remarks.

whoa, calm down lol everyone breath.......
I would like to try out the mod and offer feedback on it. Ill take a look at it tonight. Lets work together here fellas.

Ok guys.. Being a programmer and all I figure there was a way to do this. And there is! Plus it gives and added bonus of "conserving" keys too! (Since I am almost out keys to bind as it is!).

I have not figure out how to make this all 1 key stroke I tired but it appears to be 2 keys. 1 to load your config and 1 to suicide.

Ok guys I was too curious if this was possible so I am giving this information out for the community. So enjoy! And I hope some of you may release some very coo info too!

First:
Must bind the keys you want first! (MUST MUST DO THIS FIRST)
I use [ for light
and ] for dark
and \ for suicide
Use the follwing commands:

bind \ kill
bind [ "exec light.cfg;forcechanged"
bind ] "exec dark.cfg;forcechanged"

(I tried this:
bind [ "exec light.cfg;forcechanged;wait;kill" but that didnt seem to work.) So if anyone of you know how to get suicide after the force is put in on the same key let me know!

Anyways two keys are not bad. Just hit your force then suicide.

Now.. the 2nd step:
Create your config files.

Simple just apply your favotite light powers and key settings. Totally remove all dark keys from your config as you dont need dark forces during light "mode". This gives you more keys to play with.

Type the following command in console:
writeconfig light.cfg

Then go in and config your dark powers and then bind the dark force powers over the light force powers!
and then:
writeconfig dark.cfg

Now you have 2 configs for light and dark. YOu can create more of course

Enjoy you Bastards!

BTW: I guess the reason I am posting this info is so that the community can grow.. I see it needed the help after the 1.04 patch.

well holy shit hoby, you have no idea how long I have been trying to make that script. Please tell me you did not just make that yesterday and you have had it for awhile....

Sw33t info Hoby Thanks! Lookin forward to more info from everyone to test out ;-)
NCG is 4 3v3r, Raise up or bow down.

Thnx Thnx. I did just find out a few hours ago. I too was wanting to but just never sat down and "hacked" it out.

Re: JK2++

I like the timeout idea too. Since we are only 5 players that is much more important!

As for flag toss'n.. Im for it.. Kinda puts some more intereste in the game. Would be cool if you could push/pull the flag if it's dropped on the ground too maybe?

And TG They fixed the grab flag thing.. I can't tell you how many times I thought I grabbed the flag.

As for the switching to light and dark. Your right usually its best to stick with the same power through the match. But its also nice to adapt in the middle and try something else if things are not working. This just speeds that adaption up

Now that I found out my clan actually uses our DOJO I might just through up a 3rd server running JK2++ to mess around in. I did enjoy reading the forums about it. I'm just a little confused. Does it work with 1.04 client/server? Anyways.. I will find out when I start working with it.
Post edited by Hoby at 7/16/2002 3:08:34 PM

Hoby, from the bottom of my heart...

Thank you.


-Gallium

wd only beat dsbr trainees. no wd member could defeat any competition level dsbr 1v1 or teams ever.


also on a side note your clan is newbie, why dont you challenge us on a ladder so we can rape you and bring all the honesty of exactly how fucking newbie you are to light.

So Asskicker, Aeron, Narz, and SithLord were trainees? We have beat everyone of them in both 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 tournament gameplay. Granted, they also beat us as well other times.

We would love to challenge DSbr, however, we have been out of the JK2 competitive scene for quite sometime now, so that is out of the question for the time being.
Post edited by [WD]Rage at 7/16/2002 4:13:18 PM

Still haven't told us what the 'gay settings' are.