The strength of a team!!!

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TWL Member

2003-02-04 10:53

Seems the teams that do well on the ladder are the ones that also lose well. Losing is part of this game. P9,HK,3G,DC,B all have lost and stay together. If you have expectations to come in and not get beat, you are strongly mistaken. All the teams who keep breakin up, seem to do so after 1 or 2 loss's. You have to think long term and understand that winning AND losing are part of the ladder.

If you are starting a clan up expect to lose. My team has lost and we are stronger because of that. We have great competition on this ladder, but teams need to realize that getting to the top is not easy.

Cpl. of Tribes

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-04 10:55

yup, one fuked up det or just one lost duel can make or break a map, or some flag lag !!!

it happens all the time. top caliber players on all top teams. sometimes its like flipping a coin to see who wins.

Vansman

TWL Member

2003-02-04 11:05

how about losing your first match. It's always good to just challenge a top team - lose, and get it over with so you don't have the drama of going undefeated.

~~Snake~~

TWL Member

2003-02-04 11:17

I just think that the players need to be realistic and undertand that losing isnt bad. Its part of learning and growing as a team.

SkiOne

TWL Member

2003-02-04 11:31

It also takes strong leadership to hold a clan together. B almost broke up. 3 of our leaders left and one decided to step down so as far aas they were concerned B wuz closing its doors. Riverrat and myself put in the time and energy and kept B from dying.

Now we have a strong roster. Let me tell it took hours and hours of work to make this happen. It got to a point where I almost gave up and said fuck it. But I held on for one more day, one more day, etc. The next thing u knew we merged with keltic got 3-4 strong recruits and were back in the game and weve made our first challenge.

If ur team is going through some tribulations someone has to step up to the plate start recruiting start taking charge. I would lub to see a strong showing on the ladder again. But I cant lead ur team for u. If u r upset or disappointed about ur team folding, like so many have lately, then do something about it. Dont let ur team go away. Even if u only have 6-7 "original" members left, do it. Start over!

0mnipot3ntX

Gagged

2003-02-04 11:35

yesh

i almost gave up on ffw many o times

MoonDog

TWL Member

2003-02-04 11:50

Dammit - (AFO) is all about the losing and staying together. Been a T2 tradition, ya know. Look at our record if ya doesn't believes me, arrrrg.

~~Snake~~

TWL Member

2003-02-04 11:53

Ooopss Sorry Moondog. AFO definelty has strength in staying togoether too. Forgot you in the list

Igorel

TWL Member

2003-02-04 11:59

Sheesh, we've got more losses than anyone else and you forget about us?? AFO isn't going anywhere!

SkiOne

TWL Member

2003-02-04 12:02

good! I would have to come and personally kick all of ur asses

PROFHET

Kodiak Fan Club President

2003-02-04 12:26

YES, AFO has lost the most, but you know what, they have played a lot, and that is what its about playing and having fun.
Yes DC is somewhat serious, but we have a lot of fun discussing strats and working on getting better.
MOST OF ALL though we have fun playing in matches WIN or LOSE. Losses just drive us to work a little harder.
I love matches and if we lost every single one, it wouldnt break my heart TOO much. It more matters to me that everybody is a part of our team and that I get to see those "WOW" moments that us and other teams pull of in matches.

MoonDog

TWL Member

2003-02-04 12:39

AFO still has love for Mr. Snake.

-=MorbidAngel=-

TWL Member

2003-02-04 13:40

I agree with what Snake said. The reason our team broke up is because they fundamentally think they are better than everyone else. Not everyone, you guys know who i'm talking about of course. But MDC came and went very quickly, like most of you expected I presume.

Romeo53

TWL Member

2003-02-04 15:04

morbid mdc didnt break up because of the fucking lose dude.. they broke up because fatal threw a fucking fit and disbanned the damn clan... if you fucking put two and two together you would know that most of the clan is starting another fucking clan... dont be so fucking ingorant, if you remember you were apart of this clan and now your speaking of it like you knew this was going to happend for months now... if you knew of it why the fuck did you even join.

SkiOne

TWL Member

2003-02-04 15:07

come on ppl how could u take such a positive thread and turn it negative. calm down!

-=MorbidAngel=-

TWL Member

2003-02-04 15:35

Originally posted by: Romeo53

morbid mdc didnt break up because of the fucking lose dude.. they broke up because fatal threw a fucking fit and disbanned the damn clan... if you fucking put two and two together you would know that most of the clan is starting another fucking clan... dont be so fucking ingorant, if you remember you were apart of this clan and now your speaking of it like you knew this was going to happend for months now... if you knew of it why the fuck did you even join.

I knew this was going to happen when you guys started saying "after the match, we're going to tell Fatal he isn't our leader anymore." Gimme a break. At least Jubee isn't saying anything right now. You and Hades are making me embarrassed to have been a part of the clan...so that answers your question I think.

Romeo53

TWL Member

2003-02-04 15:42

HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAD A LEADER ROLE ANYWAYS!!! CANT YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!

oSpriteo

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-04 15:43

I usually consider EXPLODING in real life whenever we lose.
Post edited by oSpriteo at 2/4/2003 3:49:21 PM

DrCranium

TWL Member

2003-02-04 15:46

i like to drown myself in pine sol

StuMan(AFO)

TWL Member

2003-02-04 15:52

Originally posted by: PROFHET

YES, AFO has lost the most, but you know what, they have played a lot, and that is what its about playing and having fun.
Yes DC is somewhat serious, but we have a lot of fun discussing strats and working on getting better.
MOST OF ALL though we have fun playing in matches WIN or LOSE. Losses just drive us to work a little harder.
I love matches and if we lost every single one, it wouldnt break my heart TOO much. It more matters to me that everybody is a part of our team and that I get to see those "WOW" moments that us and other teams pull of in matches.

Profhet, that is exactly the thing Stry and myself preach all of the time. Yes I wanna win, but not stressing and having fun are the main points here.

Cheers bro

-=MorbidAngel=-

TWL Member

2003-02-04 15:57

Originally posted by: Romeo53

HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAD A LEADER ROLE ANYWAYS!!! CANT YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!

you don't have a dog in the fight man. You chose to go with -(W)- and played with them until they got throttled in that scrim vs. LoH. Then you came over to us waaaaaaaaaaaaaay after we had already made all the administrative decisions. What do you mean he shouldn't have been the leader in the first place? You weren't even around then.

Romeo53

TWL Member

2003-02-04 16:01

what does fucking -w- have to do with anything..... i know all the fucking people in the god damn clan.. .and i know how it was getting started because they wanted me to come with them when they started... i know what im fucking talking about, if i didnt i wouldnt talk about it... there was supose to be no official leader, they were supose to do everything as a team voting on practically everything... no one being a leader... and when i say no one... that doesnt mean fatal. stop trying to turn it around and stop trying to make me think like i dont know what happend.

~~Snake~~

TWL Member

2003-02-04 16:12

How about you take this to another thread and keep this one positive.

Romeo53

TWL Member

2003-02-04 16:16

Originally posted by: -=MorbidAngel=-

I agree with what Snake said. The reason our team broke up is because they fundamentally think they are better than everyone else. Not everyone, you guys know who i'm talking about of course. But MDC came and went very quickly, like most of you expected I presume.

morbid was nice enough to bring my clan into this, so i put my thoughts into it... im not going to start a new thread for something started on this thread.

HADes_RevEnge

TWL Member

2003-02-04 16:17

well it seems old MDC is at war with its cappers

-=MorbidAngel=-

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:07

Originally posted by: Romeo53
stop trying to turn it around and stop trying to make me think like i dont know what happend.

there you have it, like I said. From the horses mouth.

Unicron

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:10

Why was -(W)- brought into this? Does someone need an ass kickin? I didn't think so.

|Strider|

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:19

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~

How about you take this to another thread and keep this one positive.

Unicron

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:19

^^ -(W)-orst idea evar.

DarkWarlock

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:30

^^ -(W)-ost leader ever

Sammich

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:32

Originally posted by: DarkWarlock

^^ -(W)-ost leader ever

^^ -(W)-orst loss of the letter "R" ever.

John Blaze

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:49

Originally posted by: Romeo53

morbid mdc didnt break up because of the fucking lose dude.. they broke up because fatal threw a fucking fit and disbanned the damn clan... if you fucking put two and two together you would know that most of the clan is starting another fucking clan... dont be so fucking ingorant, if you remember you were apart of this clan and now your speaking of it like you knew this was going to happend for months now... if you knew of it why the fuck did you even join.

I've never seen somebody use the word fuck so many times while explaining how ignorant somebody else was.

Closer to home, I would like to remind you all that BaRx owns all your asses at going through hard times and not dying! Peace.

Unicron

TWL Member

2003-02-04 17:50

Originally posted by: Sammich

Originally posted by: DarkWarlock

^^ -(W)-ost leader ever

^^ -(W)-orst loss of the letter "R" ever.

That's 'evar' thnx.

Lessershade

TWL Contributor

2003-02-04 17:56

Originally posted by: DrCranium

i like to drown myself in pine sol

vgy

Spike Lizard

TWL Member

2003-02-04 21:56

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~

I just think that the players need to be realistic and undertand that losing isnt bad. Its part of learning and growing as a team.

That is kinda like my soccer team we are moving up to an older division(Under 14) yet half of our team is 12(including me :P) We have gone undefeated for 3 years now we have to get used to losing.

DarkWarlock

TWL Member

2003-02-04 22:28

Sammich = super grammer correct white kid

BigGuns

TWL Member

2003-02-05 00:06

Originally posted by: ~~Snake~~

Seems the teams that do well on the ladder are the ones that also lose well. Losing is part of this game. P9,HK,3G,DC,B all have lost and stay together. If you have expectations to come in and not get beat, you are strongly mistaken. All the teams who keep breakin up, seem to do so after 1 or 2 loss's. You have to think long term and understand that winning AND losing are part of the ladder.

If you are starting a clan up expect to lose. My team has lost and we are stronger because of that. We have great competition on this ladder, but teams need to realize that getting to the top is not easy.

Snake, i'm with you bro. When we were Venm, we lost like 8-10 in a row. When i started twl in Venm, I didn't know anything about strats at all. I was a mad HD. Was only heavy D Period. Talk about getting owned and playing in spawn. We only had one HO at the time too. Our clan started around February of 2002 i think it was. Of our original Venm guys that were around early on, here are the ones that have stuck around:

CPL
Nycto
Gorn
Ricks
BigGuns
KillerP
Profhet
Bulldog
Ganon

We have lost only a few guys like AADIC. Just using him as a scapegoat. He instantly hopped to -B-, a way higher up clan at the time. We had a small shake up when our founder had problems with his business and left. The above guys regrouped, stuck together. Added strategic players one by one. There is one policy for our clan. All for one and one for all. No ego's period. They are squashed and handled. Individual ego's just rip a clan to shreds.

As far as win's/losses. We have taken our share of losses. Learned from them, observed what the other team did well, learned, adjusted and had fun. Winning has always been fun, but that's not the glue that hold's our clan together. It's pride. Not individual pride, it's clan pride. We are proud of how we as a clan perform and conduct ourselves. We aren't perfect by any means, but we work hard at it.

Gotta get some sleep.

SkiOne

TWL Member

2003-02-05 00:09

Yes we have AADiC and were not letting him go either

|Morbid|

90% chance i'm drunk

2003-02-05 00:25

Bo, nicely said -- that makes perfect sense to me. It's hard to get other guys to follow suit sometimes, ya know. Ah well.

Sammich

TWL Member

2003-02-05 00:47

Originally posted by: DarkWarlock

Sammich = super grammer correct white kid

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