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Some Ideas to keep ren alive

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Many of you know me as coming from ninjamod, and i've tried my best to keep that mod alive, right up to recoding the entire thing. Its gotten to the point that when we do recode the mod, we wont EVER have enough players to have a ladder. Anyway, i'd like to suggest some ideas for Renegades, considering you HAVE coders who would like to help out.

1. Set up a noob server- Not just a server that says "ren-noobs" or something, but a server with admins who can join and help new players learn the mod. This was what we did in ninjamod, and it DID help a lot in gaining more people to the mod. In addition, scripting an extra little addition- Weapon info on arming, ie, when you select the vulcan, you get a brief description of what it does and how it works. this would in essence make this a new mod to renegades(i say this for coders only), but it really wouldnt require all that much more work.

2. Dont gangbang on servers. I've seen a lot of ren clans that like to play on the same team as their teammates, and will switch to "be with their clanmates" This in effect ruins the inherent balence of the mod. Say 6 p9 guys played on one team against a bunch of noobs and common pubbers? It causes people to leave the server, and the mod.

3. I know people have been trying to put a cap on the limit of players any clan can get. I agree you shouldnt be able to do that. BUT, in the competitive spirit of the ladder, what if you added it such that the top 4-6 clans in the ladder were NOT allowed to gain any new players? The idea came to me as i watched MDC disband, i really thought they could be the best clan in the mod with practice, they had very good players. What worries me is that some of the top clans will try to pick the former MDC up, and players are happy to join them because hey, who doesnt want to be on a winning team?

4. Lastly, Some of the better players should start their own clans( not leave their own clans, but start a new one and give them direction), and pick up players that Arent in ren clans yet, but still have potential to be really good. I did this in ninjamod. I made a clan called fireninjas, and made an additional clan for the TWL at the time. Basically, i knew that i couldnt just wait around for enough clans to join the mod, i had to make them myself.
Server name

"New to renegades? Join here!"

Personally, i think the idea that the top clans cannot recruit any more for the TWL (you can get more people to join your clan and wear the tag, just they shouldnt be allowed to play in the TWL ladder until you drop to the lower tier in the ladder by losing). One benefit to this would be that say a top clan player decides he doesnt like the way things are being run, and wants to leave his/her respective clan. That person's only option would be to either A) join a lower tier clan, and help them by making them more competitive, or B) make their own clan. This would also limit the clan hopping in the twl ren ladder(you could really only hop in a downward direction, thus spreading the talent). And it would promote clan dedication because people would not want to leave a clan with a lot of potential.
Originally posted by: Rambos Revenge

1. Set up a noob server- Not just a server that says "ren-noobs" or something, but a server with admins who can join and help new players learn the mod. This was what we did in ninjamod, and it DID help a lot in gaining more people to the mod. In addition, scripting an extra little addition- Weapon info on arming, ie, when you select the vulcan, you get a brief description of what it does and how it works. this would in essence make this a new mod to renegades(i say this for coders only), but it really wouldnt require all that much more work.

2. Dont gangbang on servers. I've seen a lot of ren clans that like to play on the same team as their teammates, and will switch to "be with their clanmates" This in effect ruins the inherent balence of the mod. Say 6 p9 guys played on one team against a bunch of noobs and common pubbers? It causes people to leave the server, and the mod.



Hey, I like the first one. Not sure if we can get the coders to help put weapon's descriptions in, I think they are pooped, i could be wrong. I think Doc did a pretty lengthy description of what renegades is all about. It would be easy to put a link on that server to that web page. As for hosting a noob server, i'd be glad to help admin an hour here and there. I'm more than happy to help those that want to learn.

I think the don't gangbang theory is good too. It's hard sometimes though cause it's fun to play on the same team, but I see your point. CPL and I will sometimes play and we will join up on the loosing team. I wouldn't call 2 players from the same team a gangbang though.

Rambo's if you head something up on the noob server, send me a message at bigguns_venm@hotmail.com. Would love to help the community out on that one.
if you want to keep ren alive there are 2 things we need to do.

keep match play as exciting as it was last night.

make pubs/pu's feel more like match play.
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I think match play has been more exciting now than ever b4.

I agree with most of ram's ideas, although the B guyz like to go out and "gang bang" on pubs. It helps team spirit and gives us some additional practice. However u do make a good point.

B and all of the guyz in it always help the n00b. Anyone with the slightest potential is invited to our recruit clan and I personally spend 2-3 (sometimes much more) hrs trying to help. If everyone did this ren would expand exponetially.
Originally posted by: SkiOneAnyone with the slightest potential is invited to our recruit clan and I personally spend 2-3 (sometimes much more) hrs trying to help. If everyone did this ren would expand exponetially.


I agree. Methinks I will rededicate myself to this idea, as it has obvious benefits to my team and the community as a whole.
I can teach you how to play ren.
Ahem. After giving this quite a bit of thought I've come to the conclusion that the best thing to do in this situation is.....PLAY PLANETSIDE!! ONO T3H CHAINSAW KNIFE!!!11


^lol
its funny how you nerds get rialed up over games that don't even have a demo out yet.
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i want to see a demo of HK vs 3G for the #1 spot!!!
Originally posted by: |AssMan|

its funny how you nerds get rialed up over games that don't even have a demo out yet.


Hey now, don't be bitter cuz we're not lettin you play in our Terran Republic sandbox.

you didn't say i couldn't. I never asked.
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Originally posted by: Cpl. of Tribes

i want to see a demo of HK vs 3G for the #1 spot!!!


3g posts demo's every now and then maybe if you bug them they will.....
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planetside = lose & off topic, lock plz
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Originally posted by: |AssMan|

its funny how blah blah blah

no one cares what you think is funny
ONO T3H CHAINSAW KNIFE!!!!11
well.

I think seeing people like DC and 3G and HK in more classic servers helps our pubs for a couple of reason.

Even though we seem to do very well in scoring on both modes of play. I see ren players at the top of all classic pubs, when we play.

1. People are like where did this clan come from, check TWL and say shit, Rengades people are pretty dam good at classic, and we gain a little respect from thier communtity.

2. Us renegades vets are not back in our pubs constantly abusing our skills and mudering the scores and bases and capping out maps so fast the new people cant learn the game.

3. Its all about handling yourself in public. If you give a good performance, it pays off in more ways than just your score.


















the thread has officially been kidnapped by some sorta wierd chainsaw knife. anyway, i agree with Rambo, we gotta do SOMETHING to keep things alive.

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I think the TWL matches would be nore entertaining if the talent level was even. It seems the top 3 teams and the rest of the ladder their is a HUGE talent drop. Although I really liked what I saw in W last night and I think they can be a strong force after 2, 3 more matches. I also think having it be a 12 man ladder would be better to. I think it is more fun with 12 players.



we played 13v13 last night.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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Dave Georgeson = lose



Strong Bad Says:
You lazy crap for crap!

Personally, i'm against having a roster limit, but i want to see what everyone thinks of my 3rd idea, that is not allowing the top 4-6 clans have any new players once they've reached those rungs. This way they've gotta battle the rest of the way without getting anyone new, and if say one of those teams loses a player, he/she cannot rejoin his same team.
...and most importantly don't select a "leader" that is gonna drop you from the ladder when the team disagrees with the way he's running things.
Wasn't there this limit talk a while ago? It didn't get anywhere..


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Damn never seen so few people playing renegades at this time of day. Only 38 - 40 people.
Originally posted by: Rambos Revenge

Personally, i think the idea that the top clans cannot recruit any more for the TWL (you can get more people to join your clan and wear the tag, just they shouldnt be allowed to play in the TWL ladder until you drop to the lower tier in the ladder by losing). One benefit to this would be that say a top clan player decides he doesnt like the way things are being run, and wants to leave his/her respective clan. That person's only option would be to either A) join a lower tier clan, and help them by making them more competitive, or B) make their own clan. This would also limit the clan hopping in the twl ren ladder(you could really only hop in a downward direction, thus spreading the talent). And it would promote clan dedication because people would not want to leave a clan with a lot of potential.


k no thanks

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