TDM LADDER MAP PICKING RULES

I never knew that the maps were picked randomly, but that just doesnt seem like a good way to me, i think it should be the classic way of teams picking both maps, auto TB, or the challenged team picking the tb.

this is something new... bear with us and try it for a bit... if after a few matches everyone hates it i am sure we can change it back to the old style...

i really liked it for our first match, but that may have been b/c there were two good map choices. i think this should continue but maybe with some changes from the map list. i think almost all teams will agree that they don't want maps like arcane temple to be picked for them. so maybe there could be a core set of like 8 maps that will be randomly chosen and have a total list of like 12 maps that people can choose as the tiebreaker.

arcane temple has been removed...

the random first two map picks is bullshit in my opinion, and if there's anything to be chosen randomly, it should be the tiebreaker, not the first two maps.

i mean, many teams have Maps that they are famous for winnin on - like ez: beat tatu on deck, like dio: beat everyone on pressure, like rna: ownij on Nitro etc etc.

these maps HAVE to be played first or second.

i mean, EZ played FT and Seraphim was chosen, i am sure noone else than 51 wants seraphim as a map pick - i know i wouldnt pick it cuz of its laggage on most pcs... like mine.

so i would suggest putting the oldschool style back, cept maybe change the tiebreaker to a random pick, or just leave the whole PG way...

ty

Originally posted by: Crow-

i mean, many teams have Maps that they are famous for winnin on - like ez: beat tatu on deck, like dio: beat everyone on pressure, like rna: ownij on Nitro etc etc.

these maps HAVE to be played first or second.

no it doesnt... and this is why we are doing random... no more 1 map wonder teams... if you aer a one trick pony being able to play your map EVERYTIME is not fair... so no it wont change...

Originally posted by: Crow-

so i would suggest putting the oldschool style back, cept maybe change the tiebreaker to a random pick, or just leave the whole PG way...
ty

we arent PG...



---Admin for: UT2004, UT99, FragOps---Email:SweetTooth---

i think the randomized thing is hilarious! in a good way. some maps should def. be tossed, but in general i think most of em are bearable. this game is old enough as it is, im happy to get a little more map variety in matches.

and i agree with the one map wonder thing. on pg you could see a team (just for example) that wins 50% of their games, but loses every time on 9 out of 10 of the rotation maps or something like that... i dunno it wasn't that bad really but im cool with trying something new, at least for a couple months or so

i dont mind random picks, was pretty fun with our 1st match.

but ya take out some maps like arcane temple, phobos, distinctive. just to name a few.

they arent suited for tdm.

Originally posted by: \Xm\SA][F-
i dont mind random picks, was pretty fun with our 1st match.

but ya take out some maps like arcane temple, phobos, distinctive. just to name a few.

they arent suited for tdm.

arcane temple was still on there? maybe we just got rid of it from 1v1... hmmm guess it needs to be gone from TDM as well....



---Admin for: UT2004, UT99, FragOps---Email:SweetTooth---

i think this works out good for teams who are really good on one map like crow was talking about. If they were allowed to pick them as the first map it would lead them to picking it every single time and that's not good for their team or for a good matchup in my opinion. If a team deserves to win they should be able to do it on any map.

The challenged being able to pick the only map gives them the advantage that crow was talking about if a certain team has a best map, which is good enough imo. changes things up from the way people are used to.

lemme modify my post after the newest random map picks for our match lol.

Stalwart-XL and Zeto should be gone as well.

I think most ppl will agree with me.

Maybe give the admins a list of 5-8 maps that are acceptable as random picks. This way it's random but nothing will come from total left field.
Do you smell what my Napalm is cooking?

map lists have already been posted... we will change them from time to time...

ya good idea abt 5-8 maps for random picks and then wider list to choose from.

First two maps should be picked and TB should be random.

Also, FakeTeam likes seraphim.

Originally posted by: VRX|Sting313
First two maps should be picked and TB should be random.

Also, FakeTeam likes seraphim.

Maps are 100% random... spamming that you want them changed will not further your cause... you are one person and unless there is a HUGE, and i mean HUGE, outcry to change you are just going to have to deal with this for now...



---Admin for: UT2004, UT99, FragOps---Email:SweetTooth---

Originally posted by: SweetTooth

Originally posted by: VRX|Sting313
First two maps should be picked and TB should be random.

Also, FakeTeam likes seraphim.

Maps are 100% random... spamming that you want them changed will not further your cause... you are one person and unless there is a HUGE, and i mean HUGE, outcry to change you are just going to have to deal with this for now...

One post is spam?
Do you smell what my Napalm is cooking?

you are such a smartass Napalm! lol .... how about you DIE!!!! MUWHAHAHAHAH.... but one person wanting change will not get things...

First:
i said that the last map should be a random pick and thefirst two maps should be picks of the teams... that is just FAIR to both teams... i didnt say one map pick, it is just unbalanced...

Second:
what about if the map picks are both maps that the callenging team likes? oooh, but it was random pick what can we do that the defending team didnt play on their field

Third:
we dont want to REFINE THE TDM LEAGUE MORe!
people that play all maps are FEW, the people that dont like this way of playing will surely leave the community - at the day of the frist match between EZ and FT i got two quits from members just because of that.... gj! u're HOLDING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER!

Fourth: why are u complicating stuff? just put the LAST MAP AS A RANDOM PICK...

if the challenging team wins in two maps [that is the map that the defending team chose and the map that they chose] well then they deserved the win...

come on guyz, dont try to break the community up...

and SweetTooth, i dont know if u realize that the UT community moved to TWL just because PG went down..... and u ofcourse are serving us, why are u being a jackass and acting all up like a king over us?

Crow you fail to understand that you are only 1 person complaining here... and you also fail to read the arguements in other threads for why 100% random map picking is being used... you also have failed to notice that when you spammed about 4 or 5 threads with the SAME POST about REMOVE RANDOM MAP PICKS i deleted those posts... rather than lock the threads i removed your posts so people could continue with relavant topics...

1) map picks are staying random... you cannot change this alone... as i have said you are 1 person raising a stink about this... if you notice the rest of the people dont seem to mind

2) why do random map picks? so people cannot chose the same map over and over and over and over... there are several teams out there that are 1 trick ponies... this means that they are only good on one map

3) this kills those one trick ponies... this forces teams to be good at ALL MAPS!! to be quite honest all your posts... including the ones i have deleted... make you seem like you are a one trick pony...

4) let the community decide... if you havent noticed but your posts have gone pretty much unanswered save for by me... there are no other posts saying that people agree with you...

if you have any other questions or comments feel free to contact me via email... SweetTooth@teamwarfare.com

dude, the random map picks are just gonna put a fucking bullet in the UT community, if u wanna continue, suit yourself

btw, i'm not a one trick pony, but i know alot of one trick ponies that MAKE THIS COMMUNITY that are leaving... so suit yourself... 2 clans on ladder, or 10 cclans on ladder...

do u even play UT at all?