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sooo old schoo good ole days
lol, klanwars.

blah were else to post all those pics
CAL...KW nubs don't even know those teams, as you can see by the replies...
yeah old school ss's. . . of what exactly? i only see you guyz beating a fake xeno, some douche named wat¿, and barely beating NoOne when they had melkor(cough peice of shit jew) and vode.
Cmen are you kidding me, first off thats not the fake XENO...its some of their original members, second...some douche named wat....wat was debatably the best team to ever play HPC...along with XENO, GP, High, and a few others...You obviously have no idea what competetive halo is...NoOne...blows, they are nothing compared to what cal used to be. If NoOne played CAL with their roster, they would go like 4-3 or something...middle of the road. Why post screens...because if you did have any skill, and played CAL back then, it would be cool to see the screens again, those are alot of old Halo legends in those screens, i find it cool to see em again. Fortunatly alot of the greats are coming back, so maybe you will have a chance to play some of them, and you will maybe get 2 kills.

I just dont understand why people like you need to come into a perfectly harmless thread and start flaming for no reason...grow up kthanksbye...gg, good fuckin game
high??????

but yeah xeno's guys played under aliases a lot. Chances are they did have a ringer or two though
High wasn't the best team online, but at the cpl, they did pretty well, their skills was awesome even online, but never got to be "the best". Maybe a lack of teamwork or strats, because they had the potential to do much better.
Post edited by MasterBash at 3/2/2005 4:09:31 PM
high was damn good on BG. they set up crossfire like a bitch! but yea.. exxo i dont know why u posted the ss of beatng NoonE when melkor played. lol
Post edited by l wHyMe l at 3/2/2005 4:16:19 PM

High yeah, they were amazing, but they didnt haev teamwork, if they did they could have easily been top 3 or so...
I would have to agree with Seq, almost all of the current TWL teams wouldnt be able to keep a positive ration in CAL. In fact a few of the "Top" teams here were the lowest of the low on CAL. I like it when the KW teams that participated in s3 brag about their standings so much, when there was literaly no CPL teams playing anymore. One of the "top" TWL teams for instance, went 3-5 in CAL s2 with only one REAL win. Two of them were no shows.

PS: Goochers owned up BG as well.
Post edited by iniquity-nin at 3/2/2005 4:50:37 PM

Wow Seq...chill.
As I remember, RK-C wasn't that good. That's only how I remember it though.

Originally posted by: §eq
I just dont understand why people like you need to come into a perfectly harmless thread and start flaming for no reason...grow up kthanksbye...gg, good fuckin game

Take your own advice.
Post edited by mechh at 3/2/2005 4:50:10 PM
Goochers raaaaped on BG :'(
Originally posted by: mechh
Wow Seq...chill.
As I remember, RK-C wasn't that good. That's only how I remember it though.

Originally posted by: §eq
I just dont understand why people like you need to come into a perfectly harmless thread and start flaming for no reason...grow up kthanksbye...gg, good fuckin game

Take your own advice.

They got good for a bit when some GHC members joined, but then they left and RK-C died or something.
Post edited by iniquity-nin at 3/2/2005 4:53:11 PM

ghc guys never left, and yes, we merged with GHC after they left TWL with a 16-0 record...we won 10 or so matches in a row...but CAL s2 was already underway, then Gage took over for Upz as admin and started gaying all our disputes, so we all kinda had enough and left. And i never once said Rk-C was that good, and take my on advice mech...im defending exxo, not flaming...
Originally posted by: iniquity-nin
I would have to agree with Seq, almost all of the current TWL teams wouldnt be able to keep a positive ration in CAL. In fact a few of the "Top" teams here were the lowest of the low on CAL. I like it when the KW teams that participated in s3 brag about their standings so much, when there was literaly no CPL teams playing anymore. One of the "top" TWL teams for instance, went 3-5 in CAL s2 with only one REAL win. Two of them were no shows.

PS: Goochers owned up BG as well.



wow, its ALMOST as if its a completely different gametype! go figure!

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Originally posted by: iniquity-nin
One of the "top" TWL teams for instance, went 3-5 in CAL s2 with only one REAL win. Two of them were no shows.


That's cause we practice near the end of cal s2... and around cpl... lots. Imagine playing in CAL s2 when you made a team one week before, never scrimmed or anything, that's what we did. We were just random pubbers deciding to make a team...

Since the constant scrimming like every night (we played some of the top teams) so we developped teamwork and ok strat even tho we always had problems with positions at first, but we got it straight after a while.

If cpl would still be there, we would've went to it.
Post edited by MasterBash at 3/2/2005 5:36:55 PM
Originally posted by: MasterBash
Originally posted by: iniquity-nin
One of the "top" TWL teams for instance, went 3-5 in CAL s2 with only one REAL win. Two of them were no shows.


That's cause we practice near the end of cal s2... and around cpl... lots. Imagine playing in CAL s2 when you made a team one week before, never scrimmed or anything, that's what we did. We were just random pubbers deciding to make a team...

That is exactly what my team did and we still kept a positive ration with a far more difficult schedule. :/

Im not saying we were good or anything, we were fortunate enough to make the top 25 on the gotfrag list for s2..but against the teams that competed, It was definitly something to be happy over.

In respons to FDR, they were not just great Assault players, they were great Halo players in general. The outcome would not of changed if CAL used a different gametype.

wow..4 edits later...keke
Post edited by iniquity-nin at 3/2/2005 5:49:37 PM

Originally posted by: §eq
ghc guys never left, and yes, we merged with GHC after they left TWL with a 16-0 record...we won 10 or so matches in a row...but CAL s2 was already underway, then Gage took over for Upz as admin and started gaying all our disputes, so we all kinda had enough and left. And i never once said Rk-C was that good, and take my on advice mech...im defending exxo, not flaming...

hmm...I didn't know that was why you guys left. I just remember RK-C being active one week, then the next week gone. I figured yall just broke up or somethin.
We didn't know what Assault really was, so all we did was stay at base for d and try to cap on o... we knew we had to kill on o but never knew about d... It's like being new you know, like the n00bs in pubs, who protect the flag at all times so they stay at base, thats exactly what we did lol... but well we learned alot from our mistakes. We even missed our first offense against HHC, we didnt even know we were o. We never played any other map than BG too.

But good times anyway, we still had so much fun.
Post edited by MasterBash at 3/2/2005 6:02:56 PM
Originally posted by: MasterBash
We didn't know what Assault really was, so all we did was stay at base for d and try to cap on o... we knew we had to kill on o but never knew about d... It's like being new you know, like the n00bs in pubs, who protect the flag at all times so they stay at base, thats exactly what we did lol... but well we learned alot from our mistakes. We even missed our first offense against HHC, we didnt even know we were o. We never played any other map than BG too.

But good times anyway, we still had so much fun.

:o lol
Who are you tho? maybe I played against u in cal or something?
Originally posted by: §eq
ghc guys never left, and yes, we merged with GHC after they left TWL with a 16-0 record...we won 10 or so matches in a row...but CAL s2 was already underway, then Gage took over for Upz as admin and started gaying all our disputes, so we all kinda had enough and left. And i never once said Rk-C was that good, and take my on advice mech...im defending exxo, not flaming...

Not flaming...
Originally posted by: §eq
1.You obviously have no idea what competetive halo is...
2.NoOne...blows
3.because if you did have any skill
4.I just dont understand why people like you need to come into a perfectly harmless thread and start flaming for no reason...grow up kthanksbye...gg, good fuckin game

Oh?
seq, if that was the REAL xeno and REAL wat, i doubt theyd do that damn horrible
just shut up
We absolutely pwnt SWATpup at CPL. They had no chance of winning after 3 minutes, so I drove hogs around their base (you can imagine that was his excuse lol)

But anyway, not one of the teams today can match Depredation, Wat, Goochers, team Heartless, Sick (the original), or SB.


It's kinda depressing to see whats left.

Even if they brought CPL back, I am NOT going to Texas.
I HATE TEXAS.
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Double u zero zero tee. Woot Woman's Rights!
What's wrong with Texas?
Originally posted by: EX_···G···
We absolutely pwnt SWATpup at CPL. They had no chance of winning after 3 minutes, so I drove hogs around their base (you can imagine that was his excuse lol)

But anyway, not one of the teams today can match Depredation, Wat, Goochers, team Heartless, Sick (the original), or SB.


It's kinda depressing to see whats left.

Even if they brought CPL back, I am NOT going to Texas.
I HATE TEXAS.

Sick? wtf? I played a clan called sick back in the day, they fucking sucked. Maybe you are talking about a different one..
Wow Potato, that's why he said (the original)...
potatOWNED!
Originally posted by: iniquity-nin


In respons to FDR, they were not just great Assault players, they were great Halo players in general. The outcome would not of changed if CAL used a different gametype.



I could not disagree more - perhaps you misunderstood what my point was: I can only speak for myself and my team, but I would strongly contend that if CAL were CTF, not assault, that 1) we would have played, considering we detest assualt, 2) yes, as a 'top TWL' team, we would much more than 'stand a chance,' and 3) in general, yes, i agree that certain teams will be successful regardless, but that does not mean that there would not be others. In fact, I would promise you otherwise.

its just the classic notion that many CAL players seem to have, that if you didnt play CAL, or if you do not play assualt, then you cannot contend with the best. in every reasonable sense, CTF would be more difficult, in a strategic sense. but alas, its simply fact in my opinion.

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Originally posted by: EX_···G···
We absolutely pwnt SWATpup at CPL. They had no chance of winning after 3 minutes, so I drove hogs around their base (you can imagine that was his excuse lol)

But anyway, not one of the teams today can match Depredation, Wat, Goochers, team Heartless, Sick (the original), or SB.


It's kinda depressing to see whats left.

Even if they brought CPL back, I am NOT going to Texas.
I HATE TEXAS.


Depredation? There was alot of better teams out there. :/

I always felt teams like wat?, Goochers, xeno, GP(edgewise/reality/wtf werent they?), Rival/f1, Indigo and your team High Halo were better. :/


Post edited by iniquity-nin at 3/2/2005 9:01:12 PM

Originally posted by: ~Hoss-FDR
Originally posted by: iniquity-nin


In respons to FDR, they were not just great Assault players, they were great Halo players in general. The outcome would not of changed if CAL used a different gametype.



I could not disagree more - perhaps you misunderstood what my point was: I can only speak for myself and my team, but I would strongly contend that if CAL were CTF, not assault, that 1) we would have played, considering we detest assualt, 2) yes, as a 'top TWL' team, we would much more than 'stand a chance,' and 3) in general, yes, i agree that certain teams will be successful regardless, but that does not mean that there would not be others. In fact, I would promise you otherwise.

its just the classic notion that many CAL players seem to have, that if you didnt play CAL, or if you do not play assualt, then you cannot contend with the best. in every reasonable sense, CTF would be more difficult, in a strategic sense. but alas, its simply fact in my opinion.


Im not questioning your skill(or your teams), but it isnt an opinion it is a fact. Hoss wouldn't stand a chance against any top teams, even if CAL played CTF instead of assault. You would be out aimed in every aspect, your strats wouldn't compare, and your teamwork would be sub par in comparison. The majority of the top teams played with the same 5 or 6 guys constantly, scrimming upwards of five times a night getting every aspect of everymap down.

It is just simple, you would get served.(I would to as I did many times playing against wat? Who I feel was the best all around team).

sooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy :/

p.s: CAL picked assault for a reason, it is the ideal gametype to show teamwork, aim and strategy.

I making friends.


/me prepares to get verbaly assault by Hoss members and Hoss fanboys.
Post edited by iniquity-nin at 3/2/2005 9:02:34 PM

Originally posted by: mechh
Wow Potato, that's why he said (the original)...

I've never heard of a clan called sick that was good.
alright here's what i have to say. Assault takes more strategy than CTF. plain and simple. you want to know why? well here it goes.

In Assault every two minutes your style of game play changes and you have THAT much time to adjust. Holding map is MORE important in an assault game than a CTF game. Killing guys at the right moment is crucial if a team hopes to cap.

In CTF, there is one objective. GET THE ENEMY FLAG. yea you're right there is twice the ground you must cover in order to score, but you have to realize that the majority of the opposing team does not focus on your capper. The team is basically split in half, 3 usually that go hardcore offense, while 2 control map or stay back on Defense depending on the situation. CTF is a frag fest that doesnt require a push on a larger map. (bg is a completely different story) All in all, ctf is a totally different game than Assault.

Now as for former CPL teams such as Wat, F1, Xeno, and Indigo, they are straight assault players. BUT lets say you just take them out of an assault match (in their prime) and let them play a CTF against a team like HOSS (in their prime). Hoss has a unique playing style which in my opinion is great, but to be honest CPL teams have far more experience with halo than anyone else. They can adjust, and although the majority of CPL teams were more strat based than aim based (i think or from what i've heard), they still can hold their own. how they set up crossfire and how they coordinate pushes to get back map is phenominal. And that alone is enough to change their styles of play to play a game like CTF.
We managed to tie u5 in assault and beat F1 in ctf, (lost 1-0 timbo assault tho), goochers absolutely raped us on bg... just when we were starting out tho. However, we actually did decent against a lot of the top teams when we got our game on (yeah dark, we played shitty against you hardcore, I know, but we did a lot better against other teams.. just a bad day)... I always thought we were a pretty decent assault team after we got a few teams from roo and head and such. Maybe even stronger assault than ctf, we beat hoss (absolutely no offense meant by this) 6-0 in a half on dc in assault. Anyways, back to doing work :x
Originally posted by: EX_···G···
We absolutely pwnt SWATpup at CPL. They had no chance of winning after 3 minutes, so I drove hogs around their base (you can imagine that was his excuse lol)

But anyway, not one of the teams today can match Depredation, Wat, Goochers, team Heartless, Sick (the original), or SB.


It's kinda depressing to see whats left.

Even if they brought CPL back, I am NOT going to Texas.
I HATE TEXAS.


I'm guessing that by saying SWATpup, you meant his team. And yah, you guys did own ResurrectioN pretty hard on that BG game. Apparently however, you didn't hear of the big fiasco that occured right before that and pretty much ruined our team. Too bad, because all those teams you speak of so highly, we beat on SEVERAL occasions. Those who actually played ResurrectioN knew we were a force.
im not going to waste my time debating this - its such a dead issue. you assume way too much, bud. what do you think you know about my team? im not even going to get into this, as it is much too taxing to speak upon deaf ears. but the point stands - you have no idea who we are and how we play, yet you profess to know everything, and make bold assumptions without any ground. besides that, i believe CTF to be much more team oriented than assualt, and i have talked about this many times. i could discuss this to no end, but it has no point.

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Originally posted by: dutch_
We managed to tie u5 in assault and beat F1 in ctf, (lost 1-0 timbo assault tho), goochers absolutely raped us on bg... just when we were starting out tho. However, we actually did decent against a lot of the top teams when we got our game on (yeah dark, we played shitty against you hardcore, I know, but we did a lot better against other teams.. just a bad day)... I always thought we were a pretty decent assault team after we got a few teams from roo and head and such. Maybe even stronger assault than ctf, we beat hoss (absolutely no offense meant by this) 6-0 in a half on dc in assault. Anyways, back to doing work :x


I you dutch, no worries.

We were only fortunate to play you guys in Assault once back when we started in s2, it was a good game and somehow I still remember the map and the score.

PS: FDR, it is easy to despise what you are not good at or don't want to spend the time to learn. Anyone can pick up Halo PC and play CTF at an even level. Assault on the other hand takes time to have perfect aim, coordination and strategy.

CTF is favorable to most because it puts the vast majority at a level playing field and gives each team a chance to win, reguardless of their skill. Assault on the other hand, can't be won unless you have every aspect of Halo down pat...

The Fox and the Grapes

One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he.

Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I am sure they are sour."


I thought this was an ideal time to post this.
Originally posted by: pwnage25
Originally posted by: EX_···G···
We absolutely pwnt SWATpup at CPL. They had no chance of winning after 3 minutes, so I drove hogs around their base (you can imagine that was his excuse lol)

But anyway, not one of the teams today can match Depredation, Wat, Goochers, team Heartless, Sick (the original), or SB.


It's kinda depressing to see whats left.

Even if they brought CPL back, I am NOT going to Texas.
I HATE TEXAS.


I'm guessing that by saying SWATpup, you meant his team. And yah, you guys did own ResurrectioN pretty hard on that BG game. Apparently however, you didn't hear of the big fiasco that occured right before that and pretty much ruined our team. Too bad, because all those teams you speak of so highly, we beat on SEVERAL occasions. Those who actually played ResurrectioN knew we were a force.


Ya man, absolutely no hate, but anyone has the ability to win sometime. Nothing wrong with anyone's clan, just when I talked to swat pup he made it sound as if that all I did. An mainly those clans I names, were the ones who are dead now (even for other games). Depredation absolutely raped with their start. We did beat them, but that doesn't mean we were better.
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Originally posted by: EX_···G···

Ya man, absolutely no hate, but anyone has the ability to win sometime. Nothing wrong with anyone's clan, just when I talked to swat pup he made it sound as if that all I did. An mainly those clans I names, were the ones who are dead now (even for other games). Depredation absolutely raped with their start. We did beat them, but that doesn't mean we were better.


I didn't mean that we were better than anyone, sorry if that's what it sounded like, but we did beat some of those teams pretty consistently. As far as CPL, I'll willingly admit that you guys spanked us. Whether you were driving around in hogs or not, it worked and that's the bottom line.