TWL Final Maps

Dear TWL,
I read in one of the topics on this forum that the final maps are only known by the admins of the TWL league.
As of yesterday, a number of these admins with such knowledge stepped down from their posts.
I hereby demand that TWL pick new maps for the finals.
Regards,
caesiuM

rofl

I would also like to take this opportunity to say that the TWL admins picking the final maps in the first place was a bad idea.
Its a good thing that teams can pick 1 map each in playoffs, but here in invites we only actually have 1 round (semi-finals) to do so.
Therefore, I think it would be wise to let the teams pick a map each with the continuing playoff map choice rules.
Regards,
caesiuM

Shut up, I want MPSE in final!

dope demands!!! obey

Originally posted by: caesMatic
Dear TWL,
I read in one of the topics on this forum that the final maps are only known by the admins of the TWL league.
As of yesterday, a number of these admins with such knowledge stepped down from their posts.
I hereby demand that TWL pick new maps for the finals.
Regards,
caesiuM

For your information, the final map was not chosen yet, so nobody knows.

Originally posted by: .inFerno

Originally posted by: caesMatic
Dear TWL,
I read in one of the topics on this forum that the final maps are only known by the admins of the TWL league.
As of yesterday, a number of these admins with such knowledge stepped down from their posts.
I hereby demand that TWL pick new maps for the finals.
Regards,
caesiuM

For your information, the final map was not chosen yet, so nobody knows.

ahahahhahaha xD

lmao

oh snap

Originally posted by: Limited.E
Shut up, I want MPSE in final!

But MPSE is cold

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Will the final maps for Inters and Invites be the same?

Originally posted by: caesMatic
Will the final maps for Inters and Invites be the same?

Its not decided yet.

What would you guys prefer?

If they're both the same, it might make finding scrims easier?

If they're not, it may make games more interesting?

What would you guys like?

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Originally posted by: -eXplicit

Originally posted by: Limited.E
Shut up, I want MPSE in final!

But MPSE is cold

No worries! You can use my bodywarmer!



For final maps, as long as it aren't the usual final maps its fine for me. So I mean, sandstorm, mout, hq, urban.
Post edited by Limited.E at 10/7/2008 4:33:58 PM

If we use two maps, they dont have to be a 'fair' map (like those we use for OT) - could be one LR and one CQB, for example

Id like people's input on this please

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Could be nice, to play such dif maps, but.. if rly depends on wich maps, we could perfectly use, something like RB as LR, great map.

Let the teams pick. The system of picking maps from the map list is good, but its a shame we only get 1 round to do so. Also, it makes the final more interesting, 1 teams good map vs the other teams good maps.

And another thing, do you think its fair if say, Epsilon's best map is Bridge SE and Vanity's map is Tunnel.
Now, both teams picked these maps cause its their best map, but why is 1 map almost worth more than another in a sense? Like, say Epsilon win on their best map, bridge se, a win here would prolly be something like 6-4.
However, if vanity won on their best map, and won like 8-2 or something, they would win overlal cause of more rounds won.
what im saying is, imo its better to value a map win = to another maps win, not 1 winning on 1 map is > than winning on a nother map if u had more rounds

its how they do it in other games aswell, such as cod4, makes much more sense and is alot fairer

any smart team wouldnt pick a lr map as their map, cause even if u win, if u get rick rolled on opponent map ur screwed

caesiuM is already pooping his pants

why? over a team that barely plays and half of the starters got kicked from epsilon cause they blowed?

edit: for those with low IQ, that was a -=JOKE=-
Post edited by caesMatic at 10/7/2008 6:14:54 PM

lol caesium, I like reading you

o lol , good for editing the low iq shit, i was gonna say BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN

make inter and invite maps the same for the scrims !

Originally posted by: Fido+

make inter and invite maps the same for the scrims !

agree fo sho

but still got be surprise, it's more interesting.

Originally posted by: Fido+
make inter and invite maps the same for the scrims !

NO Fido, we won't scrim you!

btw, check TeamBe forum ^^

Originally posted by: caesMatic

what im saying is, imo its better to value a map win = to another maps win, not 1 winning on 1 map is > than winning on a nother map if u had more rounds

Let's just play OTs

hey ceasium maybe u should just apply to become an admin, I hear there are spots open
^
Post edited by Freakstar! at 10/7/2008 7:35:20 PM

Originally posted by: Calactus

Originally posted by: caesMatic

what im saying is, imo its better to value a map win = to another maps win, not 1 winning on 1 map is > than winning on a nother map if u had more rounds

Let's just play OTs

Care to elaborate?
Post edited by caesMatic at 10/7/2008 7:35:13 PM

Originally posted by: Freakstar!
hey ceasium maybe u should just apply to become an admin, I hear there are spots open
^

Sorry pal, but if your not good at the common pub maps then its not my problem.
I would rather play the same old Mout/Ua/Tunnel than play maps that put me to sleep and take no IQ/skill such as Radio Tower and Bridge etc.

Originally posted by: caesMatic

Originally posted by: Freakstar!
hey ceasium maybe u should just apply to become an admin, I hear there are spots open
^

Sorry pal, but if your not good at the common pub maps then its not my problem.
I would rather play the same old Mout/Ua/Tunnel than play maps that put me to sleep and take no IQ/skill such as Radio Tower and Bridge etc.

RT and Bridge is a no go
I was talking about Recon and SF village

lol as if Mout or Tunnel was any better than others... The fact is that AA is full of different maps with good and bad points. It's not because you preffer some maps and have high IQ when playing them that it makes no sense playing on the others.

Let's just start playing ES2 Border.

Originally posted by: -)$mUrF(-
lol as if Mout or Tunnel was any better than others... The fact is that AA is full of different maps with good and bad points. It's not because you preffer some maps and have high IQ when playing them that it makes no sense playing on the others.

Obviously Mout or Tunnel are more fun to play, but I do agree that some lr maps are pretty good aswell and should be played in competition.

Well I also love to play Mout/ua/tunnel but I wouldn't play this game if competition was limited to these 3 maps, kinda boring... though I understand we don't play recon, steamroller etc. lol.

I think the system is ok for now.

Originally posted by: caesMatic

Originally posted by: Calactus

Originally posted by: caesMatic

what im saying is, imo its better to value a map win = to another maps win, not 1 winning on 1 map is > than winning on a nother map if u had more rounds

Let's just play OTs

Care to elaborate?

If both teams wins their own map which would propably happen in every final, score is 1-1 and either 3rd map or OT is needed. And imo in AA matches are too long with OTs so I think that 3rd map is out of question.
But I think too that it's unfair if u are good in some defence based map and u can't get so much advantage from it. Almost all long range maps are defence based so system clearly favours teams that are better in CQB.
TWL should just pick lond range and CQB map for finals. Try to find maps that are equally balanced. Pipeline and SF Oasis for example.

What if u make new map pool for finals and teams get to choose from there? And release map pool like 1h before the match starts so it would really be a surprise?
Post edited by Calactus at 10/8/2008 8:45:52 AM

Originally posted by: Calactus

Originally posted by: caesMatic

Originally posted by: Calactus

Originally posted by: caesMatic

what im saying is, imo its better to value a map win = to another maps win, not 1 winning on 1 map is > than winning on a nother map if u had more rounds

Let's just play OTs

Care to elaborate?

If both teams wins their own map which would propably happen in every final, score is 1-1 and either 3rd map or OT is needed. And imo in AA matches are too long with OTs so I think that 3rd map is out of question.
But I think too that it's unfair if u are good in some defence based map and u can't get so much advantage from it. Almost all long range maps are defence based so system clearly favours teams that are better in CQB.
TWL should just pick lond range and CQB map for finals. Try to find maps that are equally balanced. Pipeline and SF Oasis for example.

What if u make new map pool for finals and teams get to choose from there? And release map pool like 1h before the match starts so it would really be a surprise?

Somehow I disagree about AA matches being too short, CQB maps are really quick, as short as 20 or 30 minutes. LR maps take longer, usually 45 to 1 hour.
In aa we play such short number of rounds, in CSS/CoD4 they play like 12 or 15 rounds a side, so saying AA matches are short isnt rly true unless its a gay LR match.
Like i said above, you cant disagree that it isnt fair that 1 teams home map isnt as valuable as their opponents.

BORDER AND POOLDAY!

Originally posted by: Fido+
o lol , good for editing the low iq shit, i was gonna say BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN

make inter and invite maps the same for the scrims !

Yeh and let open rot in hell! no j/k i think pick two differnt maps also considering vidcast and stuff!

Originally posted by: caesMatic
why? over a team that barely plays and half of the starters got kicked from epsilon cause they blowed?

edit: for those with low IQ, that was a -=JOKE=-

Originally posted by: Fido+
o lol , good for editing the low iq shit, i was gonna say BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN

haha

1 fairly balanced lr map and 1 cqc map seems to be cool for final. (for example if river village is good to be added to the maplist of twl, it's pretty balanced)