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Anti-Cheat Patch?

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Has anyone else read about the Cheater Beater v1.11 other than me? I've been hearing rumors lately of some sort of patch like (thought EA would be only one to do it) and this name was passed to me. It scans your dll files for originality? Input on this guys...b/c if this is for real I wanna know where to get it and put it on our server. If not..then whats the word on something like this??
I have heard about the sv_pure setting but it will not allow any custom scopes or skins or anything as well so you should probably remember that.
I would trade skins n scopes for cheat free games any day of the week
probably right Killet....as much as I like my scope, I'd rather stop the crap....crying shame we have to make a choice like that though
I completely agree, even though I dont use any custom skins or scopes (hmmm, is that why I suck?).
I dont think i would wanna give up my skins........i make skins personally and i wouldnt wanna have to wear EA's =P i dont have a ton of trouble with cheaters.....i just find a new server and if there are cheaters in a match i report them........if it becomes rampant then yesi will give up my skins n scopes but right now its pretty well contained
Ive never seen a cheater, he may have played with me but i never noticed. This whole cheat deal is blown way out of proportion, people act as though there is one in every game. if thats the case where are they everynight im on?

Again, blown way out of proportion
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UGC Lonestar, you must not play too much. There are quite a few out there that use an AIMBOT. There is such a thing as being good, and there is such a thing as being "too good".
Are there cheaters out there? Sure. Are they EVERYWHERE? I don't think so. I think some people are just a little paranoid. Frankly, some people ARE just that good. I know a couple of people on our team that are VERY good and sometimes people think they are cheating but the truth is....they are just that good and there are others out there just like them. I got called a cheater....once....just once....one night on our server when I had like 40 kills (objective) compared to the next closest person who had less than 10. It wasn't that I was that good....they were just that bad .

I play a lot and I don't see cheaters very often. Last night I am pretty sure a guy was using a wall hack but that is pretty rare. The vast majority of games on our server are cheat-free. The problem comes when that rare exception comes along. Then suddenly everybody is cheating and the sky is falling.
to good eh?, is EcE too good then? any clan that defeats a better clan to good then?, sorry wild but u will never kno if someones cheating unless u have something 2 detect it or it automaticaly boots them like the DF2 AINT-CHEAT patch. i sure hope ur not one of those guys that gets killed a number of times and starts screaming hes using an AIMBOT, but anyways Lonestar honestly i dont think i've ever witnessed a cheater either. BUT on the other hand i REALY REALY hope EA makes a patch, MOH is a realy big title 4 them i cant see them not making a patch. i also herd the latest CS hacks work 4 moh, but thats another rumor, shits just getting retarted. And DocD i have a record saved 4 124-14, u wouldnt image how much i get called a cheater. And i made the record almost 3 months ago now....
Post edited by TuEKiD at 8/1/2002 2:36:55 PM
You can still have custom skins with sv_pure setting. We have it set on our server, yet all my custom skins work. I wish EA would just contract Punkbuster to end all this. I know it is rare that someone cheats, but it would quell all the talk if they would just step up and do something.
Personally I dont worry about cheaters in pub play, if their that lame and need the crutch, screw em, let em have it. Matches are different tho. I also dont worry about aimbots at this point. I've played vs ppl that didnt miss way before aimbots in MOH were discussed, you take the loss and move on. Wall hacks are different tho as far as I'm concerned. Wallhack usage can be faked by anyone smart enuff to turn on thier comp. Knowing where someone is before they see you would be too great of an advantage to just let go.

Will Cheater Beater or one of the other programs check for Opengl driver hacks? If not what good are they? I would give up custom skins, scopes, avatars, soundpacks, custom whatever, if it were possible to know the team that just kicked my ass and seemed to have ESP doing it was playing the same game I'm playing. Because if they have wallhacks or aimbots they arent playing the same game I'm playing, not by a longshot.
Originally posted by: =3rg=Wildcat

UGC Lonestar, you must not play too much. There are quite a few out there that use an AIMBOT. There is such a thing as being good, and there is such a thing as being "too good".


I play everynight for 2 or 3 and sometimes 4 hours straight before bedtime. Ive played on many different servers.

As for being TOO GOOD, come to HiFi server, Frag Em server or MWD server. heck go to the EcE server. If you think Too Good means they are cheating these guys cheat so bad you wont want to play MOH anymore.

Just so you dont misconscrue what im saying, they dont cheat they are just TOO GOOD.

Paranoia is like a disease, one guy gets it and if he hangs around u long enough you start getting paranoid to. There have been nights where i sucked so bad i cldnt kill if my life depended on it, funny thing is i know i sucked that day and they were in the zone. If they cheated who cares i still had fun because my mentality of the whole thing wasnt about IF THEY CHEATED, but how much fun it was playing a game i loved after a hard day. Stop thinking about cheats and cheaters and start realizing how much luckier we are here unlike people in Afghanistan, Indonesia, Middle east and Iraq. They would love to have what we do, and even if someone cheated they would just be proud to have gotten to play.

Thats the problem with people who cry cheat, they really dont know how luckier we are to have the things we have.
Post edited by [UGC]Lonestar at 8/1/2002 3:57:54 PM

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Well Said!
Well said is right!

I dont see a problem with a anti-cheat in a ladder match game, it would certainly take any doubts out of peoples mind if it were possible we wouldnt have to worry about people crying cheat, if its possible


[DooM]Rift
Lonestar, I dont think I'm being paranoid. I've played with/against nearly all the top clans on TWL and they are kick ass, no freakn doubt about that. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. There are people though (not saying from top clans, dont misunderstand) that make you say WOW! Example: One night on the SMAK server there were about 5 SMAKs, 2-3 DOOMs and a couple of IO guys plus other people. There was this one guy, dont remember name, that was like 45-6 against us LOL! Was sort of odd that a smg with a "pop-pop" across Destroyed Village people drop lol. Say what you will...but, lol, hmmmmmm? Usually in games with bunches of skilled players scores are rather close lol.

Anyhow, I dont see ANY problem with an anti-cheat patch. Also, I dont suspect or fear the majority of the MoH coumminty uses stuff but its nice to stop those that do.
Post edited by SMAK_$tall$ at 8/1/2002 7:39:50 PM
Originally posted by: SMAK_$tall$

Lonestar, I dont think I'm being paranoid. I've played with/against nearly all the top clans on TWL and they are kick ass, no freakn doubt about that. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. There are people though (not saying from top clans, dont misunderstand) that make you say WOW! Example: One night on the SMAK server there were about 5 SMAKs, 2-3 DOOMs and a couple of IO guys plus other people. There was this one guy, dont remember name, that was like 45-6 against us LOL! Was sort of odd that a smg with a "pop-pop" across Destroyed Village people drop lol. Say what you will...but, lol, hmmmmmm? Usually in games with bunches of skilled players scores are rather close lol.

Anyhow, I dont see ANY problem with an anti-cheat patch. Also, I dont suspect or fear the majority of the MoH coumminty uses stuff but its nice to stop those that do.


If you say so......

Anti cheat looks alright, lets just hope they give up on making these cheats.
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I also agree; according to [MaC]*twistedbud* claims to have created the software and claims it scans for the originality of DLLs.. which is great; but what makes a dll original? Knowing any sort of programming basics one can change a dll to say anything they want...and if it uses dates/times that's bad too because of system crashes and restores. I hate playing devil's avocate but should the innocent be punished for being creative? I would really like to try this software out and see how well/bad it works. I hate being called a cheater and if there's a way to prove it GREAT!! But, then again i don't want someone claiming they have cheat detection software that's "not released" then cry wolf after they get beat and people believe them...that's punishing the innocent again.

FYI: eCm had a match against MaC tonight at 10 that's where i found out the information about twistedbud and his claims.

Twisted if you read: please contact hugh, we're very interested in such a program (even if you have a set cost we're quite interested)
Ya, lol, I do say so Lonestar. EA is about to release an expansion pack...but nothing to help stop the hacks already created? It'll atleast keep the game clean for a few more months before more cheats come out. Its a fact in the gaming community...a game is fun until cheats become to common use (ahem, Rogue Spear? Counter Strike? to name a few).

All I'm saying is this Lonestar: Cheats are out, despite you not seeing/suspect anyone using em (which I find kinda weird now-a-days), and EA should do something to help stop this. I know expecting EA to do something about this is freakn retarded...well good thing 1942 and Raven Shield are coming out LOL!
how exactly does one set the sv_pure setting?

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