})FA says bye bye to TWL..

Big gulps uh guys.... well cya later

gg's

If you dont mind me asking, what for?

I assume it has something to do with the SS I saw on the forums a few days ago...if so I cant say I blame them

this was explained to them in detail. If you are leaving for the reason Dave left, well im sorry you feel that way!
There is a glitch with the program, you will find it out yourself at some point. One day you will be saying, dang Stones was right. I promise you this is a glitch, if thats the issue then why havent you come to me so i can show you the proof. Its very simple. Well its to bad that your leaving for something that you think is a cheat, i know your still probably with OGL, just ask them im sure smokin or some of the other admins for them will tell you the same. I have spoke to them about this more then a few times.
Anyways, Peace!

FA had good talent and it's a shame they are leaving.

It is a shame!

I can not speak for all of FA. Some of us are tired of having to reschedule matches do to someone not having the stones to put thier foot down and do what is in the best interest of the ladder. The SS was the straw that broke the camels back. I am sure we will see most of you around.

GG's

It was fun while it lasted, GGz. Kinda reminded me of the old days.Now about this "glitch",I hope its getting taken care of imediately if its randomly acusing clean players.Or maybe they are just dirty hackers, who knows for certain.What is gonna stop a hacker from using the glitch excuse? Well thats all I have to say about that.Like I said,GGz,peace

I guess I have to say the same "Peace". If Dave leaves I leave lol.. GG'z!

the glitch excuse cant just be used whenever it happens. thats why when it happens that i need to see the mw logs. then its easy to see if they are in fact hacking or not. You are leaving over something thats going to happen in TWL and OGL until its fixed by Bart. If it happens to you at some point, i feel for you. Maybe then you will realize it. Oh well, hope it doesnt happen to you.

If you have the proof, then why dont you provide it to the community instead of just keeping it to yourself.

Post SS and MW logs...for all to see.

Contempt. Whats this about me putting my foot down for whats best for the ladder? I always do whats best for the ladder, do you have any idea how many hours a day i and the other admins put into this every day? I and some others put alot of time into the matter of this glitch and making sure its correct, and it is correct. I thought Dave was on the ogl anti-cheat squad? Surely hes found this all out by now if he is part of that. If not then he will. Oh well, i will continue to do whats best and im sure most people know we do our best. If anyone does have a problem then all they have to do is come to me. Ask Kaos about this, just the other day they also sent me emails saying they were going to leave due to this same glitch problem, which they apoligized to the other team involved after they were shown by me that in fact it is a glitch. Your team isnt the first to encounter this problem and im sure wont be last. Hope it goes better for you on the other ladders.

Rightwing, i cant post ss's and mw logs from every match that has had this problem, I'd like to show everyone, but thats impossible. If you have questions about it then email me.

I dont need to see the SS and MW logs of every match it has happened in, if it is the same error in every case, then just post one instance, show us what the SS and MW logs look like so we can look out for it. Show us the FA examples.

Thanks.

Well i hope we will continue to see you guys around, im going to do some research into this "glitch"

Here is the deal!
If people are kicked or ping out prematurely mw can say that they "tried to inject a openglhack".
And even when they try to rejoin after they were kicked.
Here is part of the dispute from Fa and Dave.

Within 2 min of the match, MatchWatch kicks everyone. Another set back. Everyone atempts to reconnect and at this point console prints "21:46:21 =QBM=Night_Mare has tried to inject an opengl32 hack."

This is exactly what is part of this glitch.
This is why it is important that if this does happen in your match that you need to send me the mw log and the player or players involved ss's. Its very easy to spot if this is the case, due to it will show that the player was just dropped from the server or there are people rejoing after a server crash.

Soemtimes posting a glitch instead of just trying to get it fixed is dangerous. Kind of like posting how to hack then say don't do it. Explaining how this is done gets teams a basis to start making excuses. It is far better to spend the time trying to get it fixed. The admins are alerted to any glitches found immediately and can look for and handle any disputes coming from them. Of course we sometimes hit unfortunate incidents where a team wants to be adament about what they saw and all explanations be damned.

Admins have a set goal and timespan to get things fixed. They work closely with the creators of the program and are on top of things. Sometimes rulings aren't what teams want to hear. Had it been them that these glitches happen to they would appreciate more the stance TWL has to take.


[D12C]SpaZ
Teamwarfare Competition Director
"If there's one thing that comes across crisply and clearly in this one spoken word, it is that this guy is very responsible, inordinately busy, and not accustomed to or particularly appreciative of having people mess with him." -TWrecks

I was aware of this glitch prior to the match! I was also told it can be caused by programs such as AIM or ICQ running in the background on a player connected with reverend running.

Yes....I do know how much time is put in by the admins on ladders. Far more than the average gamer is willing to put into it. I also understand that not everyone always agree's with your decisions. I am unable to say what I want to without possible side effects from stating my opinion on this matter. So I will leave it at that.

GG'z

Well I guess that ends that.

[D12C]SpaZ
Teamwarfare Competition Director
"If there's one thing that comes across crisply and clearly in this one spoken word, it is that this guy is very responsible, inordinately busy, and not accustomed to or particularly appreciative of having people mess with him." -TWrecks