yet another ban to add to your servers :(

TWL Member

2007-09-15 12:50

TWL Member

2007-09-15 14:34

O M G!

you 100% sure? i fucking knew it. WHAT A FAGGOT!

beckizzle`

TWL Member

2007-09-15 14:47

"(dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) "

Make sense, i know Ganja is from TX. He went to quakecon or whatever that is with a bunch of guys. Pyro, Cyd (i think)..and some others.

Someone told me he played on someone else's computer and did well. He may be a blunt; someone who is decent but uses it to further his skills.

kel-

TWL Member

2007-09-15 15:11

Chu, way to keep take this public. I thought you were more of a guy that would do the right thing and keep it private.

TWL Member

2007-09-15 15:21

Originally posted by: kel-
Chu, way to keep take this public. I thought you were more of a guy that would do the right thing and keep it private.

Where would u get that idea? Besides, with the way he talks, he deserves it.

beckizzle`

TWL Member

2007-09-15 15:33

Why keep it private? It the 'git used it, people deserve to know so he gets ridiculed. We have a right to know.

.:Axxis:.

TWL Member

2007-09-15 16:29

Originally posted by: kel-
Chu, way to keep take this public. I thought you were more of a guy that would do the right thing and keep it private.

Cmon' dude...the only way to stop these people who cheat and make a mockery of the rest of us is to call them out and rub their noses in it....much like you would a dog who just took a dump on your new carpet.

kel-

TWL Member

2007-09-15 16:49

You can actually guarantee and prove the accusation as plausible before going public, get him banned, then post, "haha 'x' got caught hacking," without any rumors or arguments.

TWL Member

2007-09-15 17:19

well it seems he has the evidence?

this is pro. another reason why ppl who LAN shouldn't be given the green card.

slyde

TeamWarfare Vet

2007-09-15 18:07

Originally posted by: kel-
You can actually guarantee and prove the accusation as plausible before going public, get him banned, then post, "haha 'x' got caught hacking," without any rumors or arguments.

Think first type second please.

chu::LOB::

TWL Member

2007-09-15 18:50

That this is still what is considered a "speculative catch"...

http://www.unrealadmin.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15895

Originally posted by: wormbo

Note the typo-named packages. These probably are classes belonging to a cheat of some kind. The similarity to existing class names are supposed to confuse server admins.

Wormbo's opinion is supported by the following facts:

1) there are no known files with those names.
2) "messing with his ini" would not have produced differently named files on his computer.
3) "downloading files for demos from unrealnorth" would mean there would be matches via google from other users.

and kel - you should know that for two years i have had one stance:

i give crap to everyone who downloads bots and gets caught in public - even poor shackle with his zellius bot catch from ages ago... so why would you think gnja would get special treatment? especially after recruiting cheaters? the whole point of ridiculing cheaters is to deter it, and convince others not to risk their e-reps.

of course this seems to backfire with people who are attention whores (the dd guys, gotcha, sanca, etc).

Post edited by chu::LOB:: at 9/15/2007 6:57:44 PM

TWL Member

2007-09-15 20:25

..........what the fucking hell GANJA I WILL RAPE YOUR MOTHER IF THIS IS TRUE

BTW is this like 100% confirmed a catch? Because I have played with ganja before and I never really thought he had "amazing" aim. To be honest I didn't even think his aim was anywhere near as good as mine when I am playing well. WHO KNOWS?
Post edited by d.speed*Grizvok at 9/15/2007 8:27:13 PM

[mango]Empacher`

TWL Member

2007-09-15 20:53

didn't something very similar to this happen before?...to ganja?

TWL Member

2007-09-15 21:13

Yea, I actually just noticed a bit ago that this is just chu digging up old logs like a retard.

enersha

<3&pz

2007-09-15 21:39

Originally posted by: mel_blank
didn't something very similar to this happen before?...to ganja?

yeah, but I believe this log is different. Not positive though

TWL Member

2007-09-15 21:42

It says right there its from 2006....

.Chaøs.

TWL Member

2007-09-15 23:37

it says the original ban was from 2006..... but is chu saying theres something new.. or just saying hey.. look.. logs from 2006 match this current player. Chu?

a2th3vi

TWL Member

2007-09-16 01:21

Originally posted by: chu::LOB::
noticed this the other day:

slyde

TeamWarfare Vet

2007-09-16 01:31

it doesnt matter when it was. burn him at the stake!

brane

TWL Member

2007-09-16 02:40

Yo I havent seen the rabbit demo ( cause I was lucky enough to sell my UT2k4 pc ) but it does seem kind strange that rabbit and dub would all the sudden be accused of cheating.

TCO was a good clan as far as i remember. Aenubis . I remember playing against rabbit and he was really good at combos... and not just corner combos but up close and it seemed like good prediction. Plus we had a match about two months ago and I killed all 4 enemies when it was 9-9 ( lol tooting my own horn ). Rabbit was the last alive and he didnt manage to survive two poke and peek lg shots and some link secondary in OT. If he was cheating he would have been much tougher...especially in a 9-9 situation.

As for dub...It just doesent make sesne...He is totally against cheating and and calls hax on everybody... then cheats himself?? Was there a REEEEE!! moment?? It sounds like a setup to me.

I am not trying to put Chu down here but I think that the log seems strange. Hell Chu's writeup of Boolean and Stewie cheating against CoA was the cornerstone of anticheat in post AntiTCC UT2K4. It taught me how to view and write up a demo properly. The skills I learned from reading his writeup resulted in me getting multiple people banned from TWL ( I was a personal friend of Stewie's so it also resulted in alot of fucked up phone calls ). This late in the game it is pretty easy to fake logs/ spoof an ip/guid.

I dunno....Demos or it didn't happen?
Post edited by brane at 9/16/2007 2:41:31 AM

mongeau

Competition StaffNA Lead Ladder AdminUnreal Tournament

2007-09-16 02:58

rabbit cheated I took the demo myself he cheated on damns server Bootsy pulled the logs herself. he was a terrible cheater and left no question to his wallhack use

TWL Member

2007-09-16 03:06

yo griz, theres a diff between an aimbot/radar/combo bot

i'm not knowledgable enough in this area to verify this, i'll wait till someone confirms. in the meantime, i find this fucking hilarious.

o and brane....you'll find that ppl who have cheated before become extremely paranoid (two examples would be demon and blunt) All they do is cry hax.

digi321

TWL Member

2007-09-16 06:49

Wasn't this posted on prou a while back also?

[mango]Empacher`

TWL Member

2007-09-16 07:30

Originally posted by: mongeau
rabbit cheated I took the demo myself he cheated on damns server Bootsy pulled the logs herself. he was a terrible cheater and left no question to his wallhack use

well that's obviously bullshit. even if he was as blatant as you say, he would have been caught earlier

kel-

TWL Member

2007-09-16 08:01

Originally posted by: brane
As for dub...It just doesent make sesne...He is totally against cheating and and calls hax on everybody... then cheats himself?? Was there a REEEEE!! moment?? It sounds like a setup to me.

Actually, most hackers are more prone to call out others for hacking. I've witnessed it plenty of times, and this isn't an ignorant opinion.
Post edited by kel- at 9/16/2007 8:02:17 AM

TWL Member

2007-09-16 10:38

Originally posted by: mel_blank
Originally posted by: mongeau
rabbit cheated I took the demo myself he cheated on damns server Bootsy pulled the logs herself. he was a terrible cheater and left no question to his wallhack use

well that's obviously bullshit. even if he was as blatant as you say, he would have been caught earlier

Have u seen the demo? I have not gotten to see it yet, but when I did watch Rabbit play before I left, he seemed clean, and I spent a lot of time watching him to avoid something like what happened.

Gnja+

TWL Member

2007-09-16 11:43

N1 Chu! Way to dig up an old ass log that couldn't hold sway back in 2006; but wait it's 2007 now :]

Grizvok my aim pwns yours son! That's why your ass wouldn't play me anymore after I got teh good at DM and your rusty ass wouldn't even ready up {; JP we both suck now!

I don't have the PMs anymore but thanks to Nubis and Revenant I managed to get cleared off the charges and my key isn't UTAN banned! It was an awful ordeal but I'm just glad I wasn't banned because TCC barked at a false positive! You should have just dug up the old ProU thread I went over all this there thanks :]

But yeah, I did in fact go to Quake Con with a lot of -N-somnia and Conc, Xios + Pyro; and I did in fact shoot mostly 50s and up, and I played Quake IV for my first time there and shot 50 rail.

CU @ UT3 THNX! And thanks to Beck for bringing this pretty ghay thread to my attention!

Nice Try Chu! Now go pick on Dephex for m0r hed! Gawd :[

Gnja+

TWL Member

2007-09-16 11:46

P.S. The demos of Rabbit are either coincidence or someone who has probably never ever radared before in his life! No way anybody is going to aim at their own team mates through a wall fool!

TWL Member

2007-09-16 12:15

^ dude uses a lot of exclamation points...lol

and uh, i don't think rabbit was looking thru walls at his TEAMMATES, where'd you get that?

Gnja+

TWL Member

2007-09-16 12:23

Yah! I like exclamation points now! IDK WHY!

I saw the demo son, his Xhair touches his team mates through a wall way more than his enemies, and then of course there's parts where motherfuckers come storming around corners and fuck him up. I guess it's conclusive to TWL though, and yet USU is running around like nothing!

FUCK TWL SON
Post edited by -Uranium at 9/16/2007 12:24:28 PM

TWL Member

2007-09-16 13:47

2throwd sounds awfully familiar....

Vapor!!

TWL Member

2007-09-16 14:18

habibi oooh pick me pick me!!! is -Uranium Ganja/Dub??? glad u could make it to this forum ganja!

mongeau

Competition StaffNA Lead Ladder AdminUnreal Tournament

2007-09-16 14:18

Originally posted by: {pdX}Lostsoul
Originally posted by: mel_blank
Originally posted by: mongeau
rabbit cheated I took the demo myself he cheated on damns server Bootsy pulled the logs herself. he was a terrible cheater and left no question to his wallhack use

well that's obviously bullshit. even if he was as blatant as you say, he would have been caught earlier

Have u seen the demo? I have not gotten to see it yet, but when I did watch Rabbit play before I left, he seemed clean, and I spent a lot of time watching him to avoid something like what happened.

IP matches guid matches person demoed was wall hacking. Watch the demo before calling people liars. Not everyone starts out as a cheater they sometimes grow into it. maybe he's never cheated in a match maybe this was his very first time. Bottom line it was him cheating that day on the DAMN server.

{DS}Pure_Evil

Competition ManagerNA Game OperationsUnreal Tournament

2007-09-16 14:46

and sometimes people try hax just out of curiosity, and get caught.

Enough quality people saw the demo and stated it was blatant, no question whatsoever.

TWL Member

2007-09-16 14:56

nice, ty admins.

and now the verdict with this log by chu?

TWL Member

2007-09-16 15:05

shutup you idiot this is a fucking old ass catch stated earlier like 5000 times and has already been beaten to death at prou and other places.

Ganja- don't make me annihilate you IT JUST WOULDNT BE FUNNY.
Post edited by d.speed*Grizvok at 9/16/2007 3:06:11 PM