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Your Next Gaming PC (Part I)

Gamers, it's that time of the year again. No, it's not tax time, nor is it time for Britney to give the world another 'muff shot' (thank God), but it is time for gamers to seriously consider their next PC upgrade. Crysis and a whole host of next-generation games almost demand that we upgrade. If you are like me, you are probably at the wit's end of your AGP-based motherboard lifecycle and are starting to seriously consider moving to console gaming.

In an effort to save you from yourself, I've put together a list of components you should probably consider for building your next PC. Don't worry, in the next few parts of this series, we'll get photos of the build in action and the results.

Sadly, this is 'as we go,' so if it doesn't work out, you'll see me eating my words an article or two from now. I've done extensive research, poured over benchmarks, and scoured the non-porn part of the 'net (who knew that existed?) to bring you what I think you should stick into your next PC.

For those of you that wonder why my opinion matters: I'm not getting these parts for free, and will end up using them as my new gaming rig. If anyone has a lot to lose for picking bad parts, it's me.

One final note before we dive into the madness: This PC reflects the cost of building a new PC from the ground up. If you are a miser (that's the polite term for 'cheapskate'), then you can always cannibalize some of the components from your current PC, notably the case, optical drive, floppy drive, operating system, and cables. In my case (no pun intended), I need to install Windows XP for gaming, so I ditched Ubuntu, and my cost will reflect that. (Author's Note: In a future article, I'll revisit Transgaming's Cedega with this rig, and see how it fares.)


Methodology

This PC is meant to be a respectable gaming PC that leaves room for incremental, yearly upgrades. My upgrading schedule usually goes motherboard & RAM -> video card -> CPU at 8 to 12 month intervals. I do this for various reasons; the first is that if you buy a high-end video card now, you won't need to upgrade it as quickly as you will if you buy the cheap versions of some video cards (more on that later). The CPU is less important than the RAM (especially since the price of high-end CPUs has gone down considerably in recent months). You could replace the CPU and RAM at the same time, but with the right planning, you won't need to in order to stay competitive.


CPU

Since the entire system will revolve around the CPU, it only makes sense to start there. I have been an AMD fanboy since the K6, and even my last gaming rig had an AMD Athlon XP 3000+. But (and it's a substantial but) Intel is kicking AMD squarely in the nuts when it comes to CPU cost for performance. If the reviews lie, then everyone is in on it. Even after knocking AMD down with the Core 2 Duo series, Intel continued to steal AMD's lunch money by lowering the cost of their processors (in some cases by more than 50%) and increasing the front side bus speed from 1066 mHz to 1300 mHz!

Needless to say, the processor of choice for this rig is an Intel, but the question quickly became, which Intel processor to choose? The final product is a gaming rig (and not a video editing rig, which would have totally different considerations), so I needed to look at where I could get the most bang for my buck, as it were. I thought about going Quad Core, but as you can see, Quad Core provides marginal gains for what (ultimately) is hundred of dollars more spent on a processor, RAM, and Motherboard. Once the Intel chipset stops shifting, it makes sense to invest in the future 'X38' or 'X48' chipset -- but for now, stick with the P35 if you are buying Intel. By the time that happens, the gaming PC will be closer to the end of its half-life, and we'll be able to have a discussion about your next next gaming PC. I can't wait.

In the end, I chose the Intel Core 2 Duo E6750. First, I like the front side bus speed (although I won't utilize it fully -- more on that later), but I especially like the price -- under $200 for the CPU that currently beats out all AMD processors.

Cost: $194.99


Motherboard


The motherboard was a tough decision. In the order of importance, my decision revolved around three main possibilities:
  1. Stick with a DDR2 motherboard
  2. Spend more money and pick a DDR2/DDR3 capable motherboard
  3. Go with a DDR3 motherboard

The problem with DDR3 is that, currently, the latency speeds are way too high, even with the higher clock speeds, and this rig is about bang for the buck, not early adoption. When the price for DDR3 comes down, I'll be able to incrementally upgrade the RAM to DDR3. In the end, I chose Gigabyte because of their solid state capacitor motherboards. For those of you that didn't have the 'pleasure' of building PCs in the 2002-2003 time frame, the capacitors on motherboards from a lot of manufacturers were bursting on customers and it affected motherboards from various manufacturers, though few have admitted to it at this point. During this time frame (and later in 2004/2005), I witnessed many motherboards from a certain juggernaut PC manufacturer go through the exact same issue, and that led me to believe this problem was much bigger than previously thought. Obviously, it isn't easy to prove. However, I digress.

Since then, I've been rather choosy about motherboards and will gladly spend an extra $50 USD to get a motherboard from a 'reputable' manufacturer. To this end, I chose the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 Motherboard. The main reason for this purchase was its support for both DDR2/DDR3. This will make future upgrades less costly and easier to conduct without having to reinstall the OS (due to Hardware Abstraction Layer problems vis-à-vis Windows).

Cost: $149.99


RAM

I chose to stick with DDR2 until the latency issues with DDR3 are resolved. The price of Ballistic RAM is much lower than it used to be and, as such, it became my #1 choice for RAM. Feel free to deviate, but much like any other component in your system, don't skimp. You'll regret it if you do. I chose a 2GB kit (1GBx2), Ballistix 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-8500 memory module.

Cost: $109.99 (ZipZoomFly.com)


Video Card

The video card (for a gamer) is the integral component in a system. It is our gem of e-cred, as it were. Some gamers (who shall not be named!) believe it is acceptable to use the lesser video cards. Verily, I say unto thee, he who doest this and is caught in public forums with his lesser video cards shall be shunned. Amen. So let us say it from the mountain tops: Thou shall not use the 8600 GT when the 8800 version is available. Normally, video card manufacturers keep the higher-end model numbers for the 'better' cards, and the lower-end model numbers for the consumer cards. Here is a good rule of thumb: If you can buy it at Best Buy, it isn't a great video card. I'm not picking on Best Buy, or brick-and-mortar stores in general, but they normally do not stock the high-end video cards simply because very few people would buy them. Fry's Electronics is exempt from this ruling. The 8800 GT may become an exception to this rule with its low cost and high performance value.

The 8800 Ultra is the highest-end video card on the market right now with the GTX version as a close second. The GTS-640MB and GTS-320MB represent the 'mainstream' high-end cards. The best offering from ATi, as of this writing, is the X2900XTX, which competes with the 320MB version of the 8800 GTS.

With this hierarchy in mind, knowing that the 8800 GT beats out the 8800 GTS 640MB board at $100 less in price should give you piece of mind. I know I feel better sleeping on one hundred $1 dollar bills at night. I've said this elsewhere, but it is doubly so for your video card: Do not skimp here. Do not say, "Well, the 8600 GT is cheaper." The benchmarks do not lie. See your itty-bitty 8500 GT? Yeah, that's it at the bottom of the list. Oh, you have an 8600 GTS? That's right above it, near the word "FAIL."

For the Nvidia OEM overclocked Geforce 8800 GT, I spent $299.99. I could have waited a few weeks and spent the MSRP of $250 on a non-overclocked version, but in the words of the Tigerdirect.com customer service guy named 'Brian' that I talked to, "Everyone wants this damned card."

Cost: $299.99 - (MSRP - $249.99)


Hard Drive

Normally, I'd spew some remark about how "X" brand beats "Y" brand, and "stay away from brand Z," but I can't do that anymore. I've been around long enough to have problems with all of the top three hard drive manufacturers: Seagate, Maxtor, and Western Digital. Each of them has had issues in the past, and the only thing that separates the three is their customer service. You may as well roll dice on which one you want to use because the MTBF is never as long as what you want it to be. For my system, and since it is only a gaming system, I chose the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0GB/s HDD. For $150 dollars more, you could have a killer RAID 0+1 system, but that wouldn't make it a budget PC system, now would it? As an side note, stay away from RAID 0. It may sound cool, but it won't sound so cool when you are sweating bullets because one of your hard drives decided to crash on you and show you how short the MTBF can really be.

In short, choose the brand that suits you. Look for a good latency time (<8ms is great), a good cache size (they get to 8MB and up now), and any one of the big three manufacturers will be fine.

Cost: $53.99


Operating System

Ironically, I'm typing this article from my old gaming PC, now loaded with Ubuntu. Normally I'd give Microsoft my favorite finger and stick with Ubuntu, but we just can't do that yet with gaming. I had to ditch an article a year ago because I just couldn't get acceptable results (read: no worky) to show Transgaming's Cedega as a viable alternative. Maybe something has changed in the past year that warrants another look. After I get settled in to my new gaming rig, I'll take a few articles and go over the highlights of Linux gaming. It's a subject that needs exploration, especially with the cost of Windows XP Professional.

I chose Windows XP Professional because of the extra features it offers over Windows XP Home Edition. If you do not need those extra features, then Windows XP Home edition will work well, especially considering that both Operating Systems support multi-core processors.

Cost: $139.99 (OEM - TigerDirect.com)


Power Supply

I feel like a broken record here, but it's of Über-importance that I mention this: Don't get a cheap power supply. Just don't do it. Don't get a case with a power supply unless you intend to take the power supply out. Don't even think of buying a power supply that costs less than $100. There are many good choices, but you want to be sure that your power supply supports the voltage, wattage and amperage needed for your video card. The 8800 GT, for example, requires 20A across two 12v rails. That means that if you have two 12V rails that only pump out 15A each, you are getting really close to problems because there isn't enough headroom for efficiency.

I (sort of) broke the rule of "name brand only" power supplies by picking up the XION Supernova XON-600F14R-201 ATX12V 600W power supply. I've never heard of the company, but I am willing to take a chance and dive on the proverbial grenade for you, dear reader. I was interested in the 'modular' configuration of this power supply, and the $50 mail-in rebate didn't hurt either.

Cost: $109.99


Case

From the outset, I don't believe in fancy, 'nice' cases. To me, if I want more headroom or better airflow in a case, then I'll MacGyver the thing myself. It's more fun that way. I normally will buy a case that is between $39 and $59 and modify it to meet my needs. In the past, I've removed hard drive housing, made custom bays, added frontal airflow, and installed a custom-made cat hair catcher to keep cat hair from getting into my case.

That having been said, a friend of mine iterated that a good quality case can result in lower temperatures for your system. With a gaming rig, that is especially important. However, as excess noise isn't a factor in my system, I don't mind adding another fan if need be.

Cost: $39.99


Closing Thoughts


ComponentPriceLinkworld 3210-04-C2628 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail$27.99Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail$149.99 Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750 - Retail$194.99BL2KIT12864AA1065 Ballistix 2GB PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066) DDR2 Memory$100.99NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Overclocked Video Card - 512MB DDR3$299.99XION Supernova XON-600F14R-201 ATX12V 600W Power Supply - Retail$109.99Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM$53.99Lite-On 20x LH-20A1S DVD Drive$34.99Samsung Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive - OEM$6.99Windows XP Professional - OEM$139.99Total:$1119.90


The parts have been ordered, and most of them have arrived. Due to a SNAFU on my end (I ordered the wrong motherboard -- the regular version instead of the DDR2/DDR3 version), I won't get my motherboard before 26 November 2007. I'll take pictures of the goodies for the next article, and detail my build and any initial problems. The final article will detail benchmarks and any regrets I have about my build.

Stay tuned!


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Very nice build, almost identical to a list that my friend and I have been compiling for him.
Awesome write-up.

I just recently went through the same analysis and came pretty much to the same conclusions.

The only difference is I am going to use 2 8800 GT OC @ 625 Mhz (SLI-ed) and thus I need a slightly bigger PSU. Mine will be min 600 Watts. I also ordered a 750 GB HD.
Very nice post . You really did your homework and saved some money. I bet it screams along too.
I did some of my homework , but could have done more. I saved in some areas and wasted in others. Here is what I just put together. please let me know what you think, good and bad. This was my first build. (i'm 43 years old)

1 COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail

1 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

2 Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -

1 ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard - Retail

MSI NX8800Ultra-T2D768E-HD-OC GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail

1 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

2 OKGEAR 10" SATA II CABLE-UV BLUE Model GC10AUBM - Retail
2 OKGEAR 18" SATA II cable with metal latch,UV BLUE Model 2 OKGEAR 8" SATA Power Cable Model GC8ATA22 - Retail
1 OKGEAR 20" SATA Power Cable Model GC20ATA - Retail

1 LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-06 - Retail

1 ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail

1 Creative 70SB046A00003 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series Sound Card - Retail

1 ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail

1 COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-850-EMBA ATX12V / EPS12V 850W Power Supply - Retail

1 SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail

2 CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX - Retail

Thanks
As a note, if you aren't going to use nearly all the wires on a normal psu, go with the modular (even if it is extra) so you can save space in your case for air circulation and cooling. Also it just makes it easier to reach in without mass wires getting in your way.
Originally posted by: Fire488
Very nice post . You really did your homework and saved some money. I bet it screams along too.
I did some of my homework , but could have done more. I saved in some areas and wasted in others. Here is what I just put together. please let me know what you think, good and bad. This was my first build. (i'm 43 years old)

1 COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail

1 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

2 Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -

1 ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard - Retail

MSI NX8800Ultra-T2D768E-HD-OC GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail

1 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

2 OKGEAR 10" SATA II CABLE-UV BLUE Model GC10AUBM - Retail
2 OKGEAR 18" SATA II cable with metal latch,UV BLUE Model 2 OKGEAR 8" SATA Power Cable Model GC8ATA22 - Retail
1 OKGEAR 20" SATA Power Cable Model GC20ATA - Retail

1 LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-06 - Retail

1 ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail

1 Creative 70SB046A00003 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series Sound Card - Retail

1 ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail

1 COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-850-EMBA ATX12V / EPS12V 850W Power Supply - Retail

1 SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail

2 CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX - Retail

Thanks


What was your final build-cost?
I just ordered myself a new rig last night. Here's my specs:

2 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136073
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy $209.98

1 ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131219
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy $229.99

1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115028
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy $279.99

1 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007
Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy $5.99

1 Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116202
Return Policy: Software Return Policy $109.99

1 ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835186134
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $21.99

1 ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail
Item #: N82E16827135143
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $20.99

1 SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151154
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $35.99

1 Rosewill RX950-D-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 950W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817182097
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $234.99

1 Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KHX8500D2K2/2G - Retail
Item #: N82E16820134218
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy $114.99

Item(s) shipped from TN Tracking Number:
1 APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811144151
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $64.99

Combo discount: -$100.00

Total after discount: $1260.80

I'll be re-using my nVidia 8800GTS 640 and my x-fi platinum.


edit:
I went with the ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 because of the fact that it supports the .45 nano tech that is do to roll-out here in the future meaning next upgrade will be processor only and possible the higher speed ram (1666). But this machine should run pretty much anything and everything for the next 2 years and with processor upgrade for a while longer. This board also had the number 1 ratings beating out the 590sli boards as I was also interested in the evga 590sli, but it had poor reviews.

I went back and forth on the processor between the 6600 quad or the 6850 duo. But after reading found that the 6600 quad had problems if you are unlucky enough to gewt the B3 stepping quad instead of the D0 6600 quad, so I went with the 6850 Duo. Of course the QX6850 Quad is nice, but not at $900.00..DOH!

Post edited by PWF_Skabby at 12/18/2007 12:14:05 PM

PWF_Skabby


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Originally posted by: Fire488
Very nice post . You really did your homework and saved some money. I bet it screams along too.
I did some of my homework , but could have done more. I saved in some areas and wasted in others. Here is what I just put together. please let me know what you think, good and bad. This was my first build. (i'm 43 years old)

1 COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail

1 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

2 Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -

1 ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard - Retail

MSI NX8800Ultra-T2D768E-HD-OC GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail

1 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

2 OKGEAR 10" SATA II CABLE-UV BLUE Model GC10AUBM - Retail
2 OKGEAR 18" SATA II cable with metal latch,UV BLUE Model 2 OKGEAR 8" SATA Power Cable Model GC8ATA22 - Retail
1 OKGEAR 20" SATA Power Cable Model GC20ATA - Retail

1 LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-06 - Retail

1 ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail

1 Creative 70SB046A00003 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series Sound Card - Retail

1 ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail

1 COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-850-EMBA ATX12V / EPS12V 850W Power Supply - Retail

1 SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail

2 CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX - Retail

Thanks


Nice build. I agree with pretty much all you bought but you wasted a ton of money on that 8800 Ultra, holy cripes. I only say this as I have the 8800GTS and it runs all the new games (COD4/Crysis) at the highest settings on my old build which was a AMD Duo 4200+ w/ 2g ram and the 8800GTS.

Pretty much we just built the same system. Nice build none the less.

Oh, and when the DirectX guys release DirectX 10.1, none of our video cards are going to support it...wtf. lol
PWF_Skabby


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Originally posted by: PWF_Skabby
I only say this as I have the 8800GTS and it runs all the new games (COD4/Crysis) at the highest settings on my old build which was a AMD Duo 4200+ w/ 2g ram and the 8800GTS.

At what resolution, 800x600?
800x600 lmao, no no no..lol

320x240

really though 1440x900

pwf_skabby
Originally posted by: Gortok
Originally posted by: PWF_Skabby
I only say this as I have the 8800GTS and it runs all the new games (COD4/Crysis) at the highest settings on my old build which was a AMD Duo 4200+ w/ 2g ram and the 8800GTS.

At what resolution, 800x600?

I say that because it takes 3 8800 Ultras in Tri-SLI mode to break 30 FPS at 1900x1200 at the 'Highest settings'.
Originally posted by: PWF_Skabby
800x600 lmao, no no no..lol

320x240

really though 1440x900

pwf_skabby

Forgive me if I call shenanigans.

For the person that doesn't want to read through that -- they experienced 21FPS on the GTS640MB (on a high end processor, no less). I doubt you can actually put the settings on 'their highest', especially with a processor that can't even touch the mainstream Intel processors, let alone the processor used in this benchmark.
Well, I do not lie, I never claimed any certain FPS (I dont know the fps rcon commands) but the game plays COD4 MP stutter free at the highest settings. I even had aa on x2 until I found out it interfered with pb screenshots at which I turned it off last week.

Originally posted by: PWF_Skabby
but the game plays COD4 MP stutter free at the highest settings.

I have no beef with your contention for COD4 -- but you also made that contention for Crysis, which is a completely different animal. I don't know enough about CoD4 (besides that it uses the Unreal 3 Engine) to know what sort of FPS you should expect.
I played the Crysis demo with no problems..But it didn't interest me enuf to buy it. On Crysis I had pretty much everything maxed (Medium / High settings mixed) except aa off. I did have occasional stutter in sp, and never did play the mp.
Actually the E6750 doesn't beat the x2 6400+ black edition ^^

If you want to overclock the E6750 is a much better choice
Originally posted by: Gortok
Originally posted by: PWF_Skabby
but the game plays COD4 MP stutter free at the highest settings.

I have no beef with your contention for COD4 -- but you also made that contention for Crysis, which is a completely different animal. I don't know enough about CoD4 (besides that it uses the Unreal 3 Engine) to know what sort of FPS you should expect.


I'm pretty sure Cod4 doesn't use the UE3. It has its own in house engine that Infinity Ward created themselves.

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