Ok the ladders but where are the cfg files and sh realism?

How can we have matches when we don't yet have standard cfg files to run and don't have a twl bt realism mod yet?

Just doesn't make sense to me.
Post edited by [HEL]-[ORCUS]- at 10/14/2003 3:24:48 PM

I will get on the cfg's today and have them uploaded ASAP

In the mean time, the only thing you need to remember on standard ladders is to set your dmflags to allow leaning while moving.
Post edited by Cpt Kearns at 10/7/2003 2:32:27 PM

How did we have matches in SH before the cfg's were released? In the rules once they're finsihed will be the settigns needed to run the match server. Since you have to have cfg's to run servers anyway it isn't that hard to create a match cfg with the changes needed. SH & BT also came with a stock realism. For the time being the realism admins decided to run with the stock realism.

Cfg files are beign made by Kearns currently. The realism ladders are up for teams to sign up but they are not open for challenge. I am lookign for a minimum team count, finsihed rules, and the admisn set before opening them.
Post edited by ^SpaZ^ at 10/7/2003 2:45:33 PM


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stock realism?

why not just modify the sh mpsh? 75% or more of the work is already done. All you would need to do is modify the new weapons...
Post edited by |TDi|JESUS at 10/7/2003 6:13:05 PM

For now we'll use stock. If we find that it isnt acceptable we can look for other alternatives.

Originally posted by: |TDi|JESUS
stock realism?

why not just modify the sh mpsh? 75% or more of the work is already done. All you would need to do is modify the new weapons...

It's not that we can't modify (I have more than enough knowledge to do so). I currently feel that stock is better. Shall a problem arise, we can then make a mod.

these guys, while they are admins, do attempt to have lives. If you want a different realism mod, get to community together and make it. It kinda sickens me that you just shove this on these guys who are working fast as it is and expect them to have a new twl mod for BT after 2 weeks... I'm done.

Wow! Thanks Cloudnein. Believe me, Phatty and I have had plenty of discussions about realism mods - he and I never quite saw eye to eye about MPSH

The real issues for us is to get the rules for the ladders finished. Then config files for all the ladders. Then we want to get a feel for the response to the stock realism. To tell you the truth, I still havent gotten back to full speed since my time away, and so Im really juggling stuff these days.

But, We know that there are questions that need to be addressed, and it really doesnt hurt for people to ask them - in fact, I would be asking them too, if I was waiting - as long as they do it in a constructive manner.

So the long and short of it is that I just wrote this long post instead of spending time correcting my TOW rules draft.

Back to the grindstone.

I didnt say I wanted it today or tomorrow, I'm just giving me opinion that I would like to see MPSH realism. And if I knew how to mod this stuff I would try it. And like I said the changes to the old mpsh wouldnt take that long. I know they have lives and our busy, but they are admins. They took the responsibility.

In my oppinion there should be a set time, date, and place for the team founders in the realism ladders and get everyone's oppinion about realism. Because some clans like the stock, some want mpsh, some want new things because they believe the STG is too powerfull. Can't you just set some time for say, 3 or 4 weeks in advance? That would be the fair thing to do wouldn't it?

Originally posted by: PhattyB

Originally posted by: |TDi|JESUS
stock realism?

why not just modify the sh mpsh? 75% or more of the work is already done. All you would need to do is modify the new weapons...

It's not that we can't modify (I have more than enough knowledge to do so). I currently feel that stock is better. Shall a problem arise, we can then make a mod.

Well, I think the top 10 clans in realism SH should vote on what realism should be used.....I dont want people who dont even play realism to have any opinion on this matter. Why go with stock now? Why not make Sh go stock too then? HEL plays both BT and SH, Im sure other clans do to and dont want to switch between the two realisms.

i agree

Great thought TEMPLE, I knew you had it in ya, JK. Really good idea, It does make sense that those who play in realisim should have a greater say on what to use.

I think everyone that is looking at this is playing realism

Certainly, a community decision is a must and will happen. We can do almost anything with it, but the problem will be agreeing on what to do. We can port MPSH realism to BT....we can port BT stock realism to SH....we can do anything the community wants.
Post edited by PhattyB at 10/9/2003 10:43:54 AM

This is speaking as a team captain. Forget that ( <- ) admin tag for a second.

Just for the record, I like BT stock (The only stock realism in any game that I have ever liked). We run it on our servers and the balance of weapons is amazing. There are some people that I saw playing SH mostly with MGs that are now using almost every weapon.

The only thing I would change is the rocket ammo. Make it 10....just kidding... lower it to the MPSH of 3 rounds.

Let's not pick MPSH for it's convenience with SH. It would be entirely possible to make the SH and BT realism the same. So, with that thought, lets pick the better realism.
Post edited by PhattyB at 10/9/2003 12:43:28 PM

Who changed my post subject?

well, lets vote on the realism then...hurry this up...

my vote is on MPSH

Guys

In both Allied Assault and Spearhead there was a 2 or 3 month period after the release during which modders created and fine-tuned their realism mods, and in turn, we tested them. In both cases, we used the stock realism with the knowledge that it would be replaced in the future.

In the mean time, I will begin porting the twl-MPSH to Breakthrough, just because I enjoy doing that kind of stuff - NOT BECAUSE IT IS THE VERSION THAT WILL BECOME OFFICIAL. Anyone who wants to join in that with me is welcome.

Someone answer this question for me. If we were to adopt a realism mod for Breakthrough, it would work with Spearhead, wouldnt it? I mean, just because the weapons are there doesnt mean that the game has to access them, right?

Originally posted by: Cpt Kearns
Someone answer this question for me. If we were to adopt a realism mod for Breakthrough, it would work with Spearhead, wouldnt it? I mean, just because the weapons are there doesnt mean that the game has to access them, right?

Correct.
You could even go as far as to delete the extra weapon tikis and resave it as a SH version.

BTW - realityism sucks LOL

right, but if we could adopt a single realism mod for both SP and BT, that would facilitate things for everyone.