Wireframe

Issue on wireframe. Some people are obvious about it. I have played against many clans that have been complained against. They all have more than suspicious gameplay that has been noted more than once. Isn't it sad that people would try that hard to win at a game? Well, Bungie and Gearbox both were no help at all. And how shameful it was to hear that FoX-RagE quit because of people using it. The already dying ce community has already fallen to a selfish trend caused (probably) by someone who was tired of losing. It's impossible to deny a 1)perfect grenade before you walk around a corner, 2)peaking your head out for the first time only to be headshotted by someone who wasn't looking at you, 3) walking behind a hill while someone comes up from the top looking right at you, 4) knowing which corner someone is coming from, and quit obviously 5) not even coming completely around the corner and already being shot at. A big factor for it would be the distributers. Some people send it to people to be accepted by their clan. Others just want to win all the time, so they give it to their clan. Honestly, I enjoy a challenge, not an unfair advantage. Even if my pc has been on too long and I start skipping uncontrollably (happened twice), I still except a challenge fairly (regardless of outcome). So, why is winning the only thing that matters with certain people?

Nice try on stopping people from using it, but it won't work. You can never tell who has it and who doesn't. You have no physical proof. We (SKa) have been accused many many times. I know I don't use them, but you can't trust anyone online. Quick, or Dole might use them and I wouldn't know unless they told me. I think it is kind of sad that people accuse other people of it. They get killed, they accuse of cheating. We had a match against DIE, and they accused pHeNoM for wireframing for shooting the hog with a rocket...It's really quite funny.
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well winning IS all that matters to me to be honest , but I atleast have the "honor", like yourse'f, not to cheat, I know 4 a fact the Captin Myself Icon and Michael don't use it, cause i play with them all the time, anyone else honestly is under my own supsicion, because likeyou siad dunno? you can't really trust people online to tell you the truth. Now after the last 8Ball match people tried saying that there was proof on the videosthat we did, well that's just wrong, cause I didn't seeanything like that and I watched both of them, no one prbably gona read this post, but know this. If the reason why you might be wirframing is because you assume that the othe team does, atleast don't do it agaist my squad cause we don't.

Yeah, one of the "DIE" guys said they got Phenom wireframing on fraps...I mean, come on!
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halo just isnt fair... the game is full of unfair advantages such ass useff and wireframes. its gay but we "ALL" have to deal with it.

cant stress how gay it it really is!

i think i've only actually seen one or two people that i know use it because of how obvious they make it on a repeated basis. i dont think either of them play halo ce anymore either, but i could be wrong.

hhmmmm wireframe wireframe wireframe
oh yea i remember a certain memeber of copyrighted got kicked out of © for wireframing
and then banned from twl

so do the right thing clans, if ur a real, non-cheating clan, and u have a wireframer, kick him out and tell evry1 so no1 else picks up the hacker

at least we don't have aimbots

rofl thats cuz most of u dont stoop down to tcln much
all the nubz of halo would prolly piss their pants ova some of the shit people have offered to send me cuz i > tcln
dumbnubz
and dont worry, theres no official aimbot yet, jsut trainers that help u shood and auto-shoot for you
but i dont feel like ratting out any1 that made em, plus none of them play twl or cal

I use an aimbot! That's why I get so many kills all the time.

Gamzu, I can't say I agree with all your points. I've thrown random grenades around corners, I did it in a match once, nailed a guy perfectly and thought 'I wonder if they'll complain about wireframing?'. The sad part is, it's completely impossible to prove somebody's doing it. I get accused of hacking sometimes and I think, 'Hell, I'd be a good player if I did any of that'. I think the only way we'll get rid of this is if Bungie or Gearbox step in and do something about it, aka not fucking likely.

Originally posted by: Cmen1
all the nubz of halo would prolly piss their pants ova some of the shit people have offered to send me

Are those trainers shitty hax we probably should be ignoring or are they on the level bonafied nub to pro cheats...?

Ok, well more a less, I was trying to pull a guilt trip on some people who use it. But I respect any player who plays without "3d enhancements"

My aimbot is my right hand, fools.

Left hand is used for "other" things.....


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(moving, you sick bastards)
Post edited by {Ez0}Dutch{D} at 11/29/2004 6:25:21 PM

i wore 3-d glasses(coolio) when i used to play, dont hate on me man
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Originally posted by: -ArkAngel-
i wore 3-d glasses(coolio) when i used to play, dont hate on me man

if you are serious, how well did those work?

if you wear 3D glassing you can see inviso!

Heck if you have a cheap card you can see invisos, that's not a big one.

Aimbots and other trainers have been around for a while, if you want to know who created them, visit the gearbox software forums and do a search, it's no secret. The disadvantage of them in Halo is the main reason we all hate the netcode in the first place : Leading. What good is an aimbot, if it shoots at the person itself. It'll never hit unless they are completely immobile. How many of us actually stay immobile for long periods of time?

I've seen video of wireframing and I would get sick playing in that mode. I can't see how anyone can stand it, just so they can win a few rounds.. Disgusting.

As for nades / rockets without seeing people, that could be wireframe, could also be due to high-volume playing. I know when I have my headphones on, I can hear people comign through the tunnels in DC while I'm hiding around a bend. If I don't see a green arrow in my screen, you can be sure I'll toss a nade or at least be on the ready. I'm not saying someone's been hiding behind a wall without moving for 30 seconds, then one guy comes around and shoots a rocket taking him out without seeing him... That'd be suspicious.

But taking out someone who is moving, without seeing him, is entirely plausible. Not to mention, there are maps where I just toss nades as I clear. Sidewinder going for the powerups is one, and danger canyon (when you first enter the middle, and when you leave the middle via the center tunnel, I almost always toss a nade or 2 at the opponent's tunnel entrance) have gotten many hacks! cheater! calls on that one.

Ya, I had questioned someone for standing still behind a rock, then peeking out right where I was, I knew he was there cause he had killed my teammate shortly before. And all I am trying to figure out is why they do it. I am not here to blame anyone. But I asked and all they do is deny...

the only thing i ever seen on a consistent basis from some people that really cant be explained away by anything but luck or wireframing is on sidewinder. when your sniping from the bad side (red?) and someone walks out of the doorway from the base port and before they're even fully exposed they already have a bullet in the head. considering you have to lead a few body lengths from that range in halo and nobody on the other team is there to see someone to relay position (take vent lag into account here too) how can you repeatedly headshot people right as they first expose themselves as they're walking from the port enclosure out to the ledge? you'd have to be able to see them through the wall to get the right lead. you can have lucky guesses, but lightning doesnt strike the same spot that often. i've seen people do it 15 times per round.

I was accused once of wall hacking by some noob from a well respected clan. It was like a couple months ago. But since then I have made it a note to fraps every match. That way if they accuse me of it I can make them look stupid by submitting my footage. It wouldn't be a bad idea for you guys to start doing this. Although it does take up alot of HD space. A 20 min match is like a gig and a half. After you film, it would probably be a good idea to keep it for two weeks. I already have a list of people who have a wall hacking program. I won't release thier names but its so pathetic that those individuals have to cheat on an almost dead game to win.

could you email me that list? i have 3 people that i dont know if they do for sure but i really really really wouldnt be surprised if they do. kurupt at d3k dot org is my addy.