New LT maps kind of take the fun out of it

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-22 01:04

B4 these new LT maps came out, whenever u saw maps for ure match you were pretty much ok with what u got and happy, but some of these new maps are just plain gay for 5v5 and no one wants to play them. I say that we should leave what we had before in the rotation, and then have a vote on the new ones u included like SF, IR, BF, RQ, etc.

OpTiMiZe

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-22 01:06

yea these new maps suck

DarkForce

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-22 01:07

o and also wtf were u thinking on CoN LT... no one likes it in the first place, and even with mah gamma cranked to full i look down and i c pitch black, and when i look up i c a lighter coler black. I keep hitting the command screen to c where im going cuz i cant c shit.

That map promotes cheats like happyflag and no fog as well... another reason y i think its gay =/

OpTiMiZe

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-22 01:12

another gay map is IR who the frick makes a turtle map LT.. cmon people BE gets so fucked cuase it only has backroutes and in LT u dont have time.. only way u would is if u had like 4 O and 1 D the map is gay and so are all these llama maps.. RAWR >

C h u m P

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-22 02:33

I thought IR would really suck ass in 5v5 but it turned out ok the first time I played it LT. I havent really tried the other maps you mention except RQ, and it BLOWS.

Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-22 13:14

1. How the fuck do you turtle on IR without access to the base?
2. CoN isn't a competition TWL map on the LT ladder.
3. The lighting on CoN is exactly the same as the original map.
4. There was a thread that stayed sticky for a month where everyone was able to put in their two cents, and the new pack was a result of the majorities opinions.

So two points to note. #1, if you don't like it, don't fucking play, and #2, this is very possibly going to be the LAST "Official" LT maps release. If you guys want to make maps along the same lines and call it something else and get it into play, then knock yourselve's out. I for one, am sick to fucking death of busting my ass to do something when there's so many fucking ungrateful crybabies that have to come out here and bitch, as well as so many fucktards trying to put out shit and pass it off as LT. You guys don't tell me what you want when I ask, but are the first to bitch when you get something you don't like. Those that told me what they wanted, got it. Plain and simple.

Shadowfox

Tribes Admin

2003-02-22 16:07

http://www.teamwarfare.com/viewladderdetails.asp?ladder=Tribes+5+v+5+CTF

Check the map list before you complain. I know for a fact you didnt even play CoN LT in a match because its not in rotation. I recognized the potential issues with that map in LT, and did not include it in the rotation list. Why you're complaining about it, I really dont know.

Iceridge. I have a feeling that you havent played this map in competition either.
a) you cant turtle in it...if you actually played the map, you'd realize that.
b) if you backcap in a match, where the overall skill of the teams is near equal, I garuntee that the team that back caps will lose horribly. Its not about the best routes, its about which team can get the most grabs.

I've actually played irLT, and its a blast.. with no ELFs and no turtling on that map, its one of the best maps ever made by dynamix.

edit: I've had some worries about rqLT, chump--thinking of putting up a vote after some more people have played it.
Post edited by Shadowfox at 2/22/2003 4:09:22 PM

Shadowfox
Teamwarfare Tribes Admin

{III}-clawhammer

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-22 16:51

You spawn inside the base on rq. It should be removed for that reason alone.

Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-22 17:33

Actually that's a fix that's being taken care of.
And another thing to keep in mind, is that SF and I have worked very closely on these maps, and she's had a lot to say on what goes and what stays. She's got a good sense of what will work and what won't and I trust her judgement implicitly.

OpTiMiZe

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-22 17:56

Hey Zombee you can make maps but one fact still remains u suck at t1..
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Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-22 23:14

Originally posted by: OpTiMiZe

Hey Zombee you can make maps but one fact still remains u suck at t1..
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Do I know you?

^IoN^ Raid

"Kills Cappers Dead!"

2003-02-23 11:21

I agree, some of the new maps aren't what I was expecting. I think one or two should be left out. If we could possibly vote on which maps out of the new mappack we could have in the rotation many people would be happier. I've been saying this from the begging, but I think we should have left the rotation with the first maps..RD CC SH SB HB

Shadowfox

Tribes Admin

2003-02-23 14:04

I kinda disagree with you raid. In the forums and in pm, at least 30-40 ppl said (back when we had those 6 maps) "can we please get more maps, playing the same 6 maps over and over in every match is getting boring". With every issue there will be people that agree and disagree.

Raid--just looked at your team's history--you havent even played a match with the any new map yet. I am totally open to reasonable suggestions, but I prefer that you at least play the maps in competition before you critique them. It's almost like me saying "Counterstrike sux" when I've played it for five minutes, or never played it before. Know what I'm saying?

In general people.. give the new maps a try, play with them for the next month or so. Once a large percentage of the ladder participants have played them all, I will happily put up a vote on the shady maps.

Shadowfox
Teamwarfare Tribes Admin

Haplo

Slacker

2003-02-23 18:31

Trying to reason with the unreasonable is a never-ending job.

kudos to your patience.

^IoN^ Raid

"Kills Cappers Dead!"

2003-02-23 22:25

Shadow:

What you say is true, we are yet to play in competition with these maps, althought weve played many scrims with them and also many pubs. I speak for myself when I said I'd like the latter to be those first five maps. What the communtiy wants and what I want may be seperate issues, I'm not trying to down you or the system, I just stated what I blieve. Your a great admin and I stand behind w/e you do and as for Zombee your a great guy and I admire you for keeping t1 ctf alive.

Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-23 23:51

I love that guy=)

boxcar

willie

2003-02-24 00:40

rawr, atleast we got new maps. we played a match today and the only thing weird was how big the platfor was on BF. other than that it all went pretty good

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Shadowfox

Tribes Admin

2003-02-24 14:31

Okay raid I dont mind ppl giving their opinions, I actually encourage that. However, I was annoyed that you said "many people would be happier if these maps were gone"--as I dont think that is true. Thats why I posted what I said. Sorry, it was kinda harsh

Shadowfox
Teamwarfare Tribes Admin

xpdnc

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-24 14:50

harsh admins?

rAWR!

`fittycentz`

TWL Member

2003-02-24 17:18

i like all the new maps but RQ, gj guys. and i also appreciate all this work to help t1 stay alive, its really working.

_Hilikus

TWL Member

2003-02-24 17:45

zombee, could you post the code or the file that let's you spawn with those weapons? I would be interested in making another map (not LT name of course)

^IoN^ Raid

"Kills Cappers Dead!"

2003-02-24 18:02

Originally posted by: Shadowfox

Okay raid I dont mind ppl giving their opinions, I actually encourage that. However, I was annoyed that you said "many people would be happier if these maps were gone"--as I dont think that is true. Thats why I posted what I said. Sorry, it was kinda harsh

Well if I did, sorry I rubbed you the wrong way.

^IoN^ Raid

"Kills Cappers Dead!"

2003-02-24 18:33

Originally posted by: Zombee

I love that guy=)

who could blame you (hope you were tlaking about me now that i wrote this )

Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-25 00:20

Originally posted by: _Hilikus

zombee, could you post the code or the file that let's you spawn with those weapons? I would be interested in making another map (not LT name of course)

OR, you could find me in #LT and let me see what you got, and if it's what we are looking for then we could stick the LT on there, and make you part of the team.
In case nobody has gathered, SF is one of the biggest contributors to the LT project. She's been a huge help not only with testing (As she was with the first pack) but also with great ideas. So she deserves a lot of props for her end of things too.

xpdnc

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-25 09:33

eh, i just found where the code was and ripped it from the .cs file

Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-25 10:34

You're more than welcome to just add the code that all the current maps have to just include the .vol also.

xpdnc

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-25 12:43

k, will do

HowsYourOnion?

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-25 17:10

I actually love most of the new LT maps. I won't say which ones I dislike at this time because Zombee seems to be feeling a bit froggy right now. If i could offer you guys some advice, don't bash Zombee's maps till the spring please. We have had a shitload of snow here in NH and he is a very little guy and gets testy when there is too much shoveling. And hello Matt.

Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-25 17:31

Not sure if I've mentioned this before Lee, but I've raped guys bigger than you in the service.

HerbalTea

Banned

2003-02-25 19:10

Originally posted by: Zombee

Originally posted by: OpTiMiZe

Hey Zombee you can make maps but one fact still remains u suck at t1..
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rofl

m33p m33p

TWL Member

2003-02-25 21:15

SB is one of worst ctf maps made...

^IoN^ Raid

"Kills Cappers Dead!"

2003-02-26 16:46

Originally posted by: m33p m33p

SB is one of worst ctf maps made...

I SB 5v5, its a Ld dream (i just like spam)
Post edited by ^IoN^ Raid at 2/26/2003 4:47:12 PM

DarkForce

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-02-27 18:48

^ reason y is shouldnt b a 5v5

jjwtay

TWL Member

2003-02-27 18:53

lol

Zombee

TWL Member

2003-02-28 00:20

I've said it before and I'll say it again:
1. PLEASE don't bug me about LT stuff IN GAME. I'm there to play and have fun just like you, not have a discussion. I suck bad enough at the game without trying to keep a conversation going.
2. If you don't like the maps don't play them. Everyone was givn the chance to give input, and the maps are a result of those who did so. Don't come to me in game saying, "these new maps suck". Don't like it go back to 10 vs 10 or come to me with your l33t maps. This is the last I'm saying on the subject.

Fakenrite

2003-02-28 00:43

I would just like to say that the LT maps own... I prefer the 5 on 5 LT ladder about 10x more than the 10 on 10 CTF.

GJ Zombee

Faken

Adroit

TeamWarfare Vet

2003-03-06 01:52

IR is the only bad one, dont listen to them zombee...gj

Raidaa

Evil Inside

2003-03-06 11:34

In my opinion IR is one of the few good ones in the new mappack I personally dont like walking dead, lol sorry zombee

f33p f33p